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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: GolfTi on 17 May 2013, 20:02
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I don't have these on my mk 6, quite looking forward to having them.
How do you change the beam for driving in Europe?
Are they really a lot better than halogen?
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There's a setting in vehicle menu to change to European driving and there are much better than halogen
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Yes, they are miles better than halogen. Couldn't believe the difference when I first got a car with them.
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Difference is night and day. The halogens are like a pair of candles by comparison! Plus they dip and bend automatically, depending on slopes/bends on the roads. Really brilliant.
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Don't be surprised if people flash at you because they think you're driving around with your full beams on. I used to get this regularly with my Mark V, but I get it a lot less with the Mark VI.
If I really was driving around with full beams on all the time, you'd know about it.
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Difference is night and day. The halogens are like a pair of candles by comparison! Plus they dip and bend automatically, depending on slopes/bends on the roads. Really brilliant.
I'm not sure if we get the Dynamic bend version in the UK, i think they're just up and down not left and right. :undecided:
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Difference is night and day. The halogens are like a pair of candles by comparison! Plus they dip and bend automatically, depending on slopes/bends on the roads. Really brilliant.
I'm not sure if we get the Dynamic bend version in the UK, i think they're just up and down not left and right. :undecided:
They are definitely bending left/right on mine, it says it on the factory spec for mine - the dealer sent me a screen shot this morning of the status of my car and for the xenons it says:
Xenon headlamps with LED separate DRL'S and bending light.
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Don't be surprised if people flash at you because they think you're driving around with your full beams on. I used to get this regularly with my Mark V, but I get it a lot less with the Mark VI.
If I really was driving around with full beams on all the time, you'd know about it.
+1. Agree, mk5 was much worse for this, used to really p!ss me off getting constantly flashed at but only happens occasionally with mk6.
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They might be dynamic in Ireland then where they adjust while at speed as going round bends
- In UK however they seem to be the static ones only, and the word static is a little deceiving as it is low speed really, such as when turn down streets etc and there is additional light placed into where you going before complete the manoeuvre - Friend has this and it is quite noticeable and effective in lighting up the turn long before you would with normal lights.
The only thing I am not upgrading on it seems over present car is Quattro (even though I am expecting that to not be overly noticeable if at all) as these Xenon tick another box ..
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I am not as fortunate as you guys and have the GT on order (which i am sure I will still be over the moon with....until I start seeing GTDs and GTIs out on the road!!!)...
I ordered it back in March with Xenons, at that time there was only one option which cost £785. I found out on the forum (luckily!) that the car would be delivered WITHOUT the 'U' shaped LED daytime running lights (a subject already covered on another thread some time ago).
I swiftly cancelled my order (after 3 weeks of deadly silence, lack of information, and very little help/info from either the dealership or the VW executive office).
I then re-placed the order at the start of April, this time speccing the newly available xenon option at £1185, "Including static cornering function, automatic range adjustment, headlight washers, low washer fluid warning light and LED daytime running lights"
I am told by VW to expect delivery around the end of June and I have to be honest, I am still a bit nervous about what I will actually be getting......
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I am not as fortunate as you guys and have the GT on order (which i am sure I will still be over the moon with....until I start seeing GTDs and GTIs out on the road!!!)...
I ordered it back in March with Xenons, at that time there was only one option which cost £785. I found out on the forum (luckily!) that the car would be delivered WITHOUT the 'U' shaped LED daytime running lights (a subject already covered on another thread some time ago).
I swiftly cancelled my order (after 3 weeks of deadly silence, lack of information, and very little help/info from either the dealership or the VW executive office).
I then re-placed the order at the start of April, this time speccing the newly available xenon option at £1185, "Including static cornering function, automatic range adjustment, headlight washers, low washer fluid warning light and LED daytime running lights"
I am told by VW to expect delivery around the end of June and I have to be honest, I am still a bit nervous about what I will actually be getting......
The GT is a cracking car mate. I had Mk5 GT and loved it. The fact it now comes with things like sat nav as standard just adds to the enjoyment. I'm sure you'll love it :smiley: :smiley:
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In UK however they seem to be the static ones only
From here (http://www.volkswagen.co.uk/new/golf-gti-vii/explore/experience/design/bi-xenon-headlights):
Bi-Xenon headlights also have a dynamic cornering feature that improves illumination of corners by up to 90%. It enables the headlights to swivel up to 15 degrees, so the beam can follow the angle of your steering wheel, giving you early warning of any hazards and more time to react.
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I am not as fortunate as you guys and have the GT on order (which i am sure I will still be over the moon with....until I start seeing GTDs and GTIs out on the road!!!)...
I ordered it back in March with Xenons, at that time there was only one option which cost £785. I found out on the forum (luckily!) that the car would be delivered WITHOUT the 'U' shaped LED daytime running lights (a subject already covered on another thread some time ago).
I swiftly cancelled my order (after 3 weeks of deadly silence, lack of information, and very little help/info from either the dealership or the VW executive office).
I then re-placed the order at the start of April, this time speccing the newly available xenon option at £1185, "Including static cornering function, automatic range adjustment, headlight washers, low washer fluid warning light and LED daytime running lights"
I am told by VW to expect delivery around the end of June and I have to be honest, I am still a bit nervous about what I will actually be getting......
The GT is a cracking car mate. I had Mk5 GT and loved it. The fact it now comes with things like sat nav as standard just adds to the enjoyment. I'm sure you'll love it :smiley: :smiley:
Cheers, yeah I had a GT on demo from the dealership for a few hours and I have to say that I was very impressed with the build quality (and we are usually an Audi household so I had been nervous about the interior cabin quality, but I had no need to be!). The amount of standard kit that comes with it is outstanding, I honestly believe it must be the best value for money mid/premium range hatchback on the market. It's just a shame that the whole lack of clarity on certain things, such as the Xenons is really disappointing but I'm sure that will all be forgotten on the day I pick it up!
In UK however they seem to be the static ones only
From here (http://www.volkswagen.co.uk/new/golf-gti-vii/explore/experience/design/bi-xenon-headlights):
Bi-Xenon headlights also have a dynamic cornering feature that improves illumination of corners by up to 90%. It enables the headlights to swivel up to 15 degrees, so the beam can follow the angle of your steering wheel, giving you early warning of any hazards and more time to react.
I am pretty sure :undecided: (and I hope I don't get shot down in flames here :shocked:) that the £1185 Xenon option I have specced will be the same ones that come as standard on the GTD and GTI, so when I take delivery I'll let you all know if it is just the static cornering function, or the full-on dynamic lights
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Expensive to replace/repair??
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Expensive to replace/repair??
Good point. I've been too busy admiring the Bi-Xenons and not thinking how difficult it may be to change the bulb. It is a bulb right?
Can it be changed by human hand (and not in a stealers)?
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It says on the price list for GTi/GTD UK "Bi-xenon headlights for dipped and main beam with static cornering function, automatic range adjustment and LED daytime running lights" no mention of dynamic of which there is no option at all for - But it could possibly be just another VW misnoma and dynamic and static are very much part of the whole Bi Xenon spec - Given the car you would think more likely than not.
And as you say as just found! this is on UK site http://www.volkswagen.co.uk/new/golf-gti-vii/explore/experience/design/bi-xenon-headlights
Video showing them up close http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDqXqr8KLG0
And good video explaining it all though know for sure not getting the dynamic light assist aspect other drivers just going to have to rely on me noticing them :) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDDvCBPoLSU
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It says on the price list for GTi/GTD UK "Bi-xenon headlights for dipped and main beam with static cornering function, automatic range adjustment and LED daytime running lights" no mention of dynamic of which there is no option at all for - But it could possibly be just another VW misnoma and dynamic and static are very much part of the whole Bi Xenon spec - Given the car you would think more likely than not.
And as you say as just found! this is on UK site http://www.volkswagen.co.uk/new/golf-gti-vii/explore/experience/design/bi-xenon-headlights
Video showing them up close http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDqXqr8KLG0
And good video explaining it all though know for sure not getting the dynamic light assist aspect other drivers just going to have to rely on me noticing them :) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDDvCBPoLSU
Well that would seem like pretty strong evidence that the GTI/GTD will be getting the dynamic lights (unless MK have completely frigged that up also!)
I am pretty convinced now that the £1185 Xenon light option I have specced for my GT will also come with it, as in the pricelist it shows the same Xenon lights as optional on the GT that are standard on the GTI/GTD, so if you guys do get the dynamic lights as standard then I am sure that is the same as the £1185 option on the GT.
Well we will see what I get when I collect the car!
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There are only three types of Xenons in ETKA.
One with a chrome surround which do not include dynamic lighting. (£390 each)
One with LED Drls surround which include dynamic lighting. (£478 each)
One with LED Drls surround and beam assist which also include dynamic lighting and auto dip. (£641 each)
So from this the GTI will definitely get the dynamic lighting as it has the LED Drls
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Without sounding boring or repetitive this a direct quote from the downloadable UK price list as of 1/5/13:
"Bi-xenon headlights for dipped and main beam with static cornering function, automatic range adjustment and LED daytime running lights."
It makes no mention of dynamic cornering function :rolleyes: yet on the website is says the GTD/GTI has that very function :rolleyes: God only knows!
So, who knows what we'll actually end up with.
Either way they still look the dogs.....
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Supposed to last the life of the car, whatever that is.
Megabucks to repair/replace.
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This video shows the Xenon units on what I suspect is a GT spec (or a Highline vehicle in the rest of Europe).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBFAz_fxPAM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBFAz_fxPAM)
It shows the static cornering function by way of the halogen bulb and reflector in the side housing. I have watched the video a couple of times and am pretty sure I cannot see the Xenon light moving from side to side, which would suggest that this is not the dynamic set up, but the standard static cornering function that comes with the Bi-xenon option (according to the price list).
On the other hand:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDqXqr8KLG0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDqXqr8KLG0)
This video shows the not only the static cornering function by way of a halogen bulb and reflector, but full dynamic cornering function.
The UK price list shows two options for the lights:
Gas discharge (Bi-xenon) dipped and main beam headlights:
Including static cornering function, automatic range adjustment, headlight washers and low washer fluid warning light. £785
Including static cornering function, automatic range adjustment, headlight washers, low washer fluid warning light and LED daytime running lights. £1185
My thinking is this..... It seems a bit steep (even for VWG) to charge an extra £400 just for LED drls.
So.... perhaps the £1185 option, which is an option on GTs, and standard on GTI and GTD has dynamic lights also (Although it doesn't state that in the price-list, but we all know how accurate that is!!).
Any thoughts??
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My thoughts? I think people are over-analysing this and relying too much on what VW UK's configurator (which is hopeless) and the brochures (which seem to change every other day) say. The Golf 6 Xenons have dynamic curve lighting. The Mark 7 is supposed to be a step forward in every regard. Why then would the new car be less capable than the old one?
Let's compare it to the German brochure for the Trend/Comfort/Highline (page 21), which also has two options relating to Xenons.
1. Xenons without LED DRLs and without dynamic curve lighting - EUR 850.
2. Xenons with LED DRLs and with dynamic curve slighting - EUR 1200.
The prices are suspiciously close to the UK ones, factoring in currency variations and "let's round them up/down a bit" from the accounts department. You cannot get dynamic curve lighting without LED DRLs. I don't think that VW would produce a unit that has LEDs but no dynamic curve lighting just for the UK, and like you say, £400 is an awful lot for a couple of white LEDs. Adding more variations for a particular option means reduced profits and a more complex build process (and a greater potential to screw up by accidentally fitting the wrong part).
Conclusion: the Mark 7 has dynamic curve lighting as well.
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I agree Jules. It wouldn't make sense for them not to have it.
I am expecting delivery of my GT, with Bi-Xenons & LED DRLs (and some other options) at the end of June, so I will be able to confirm what the light set up is in reality then....