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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: p3asa on 28 April 2013, 23:25
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I know the ADC incorporates cruise control but can you also set it for the distance you want to stay behind someone or is that pre determined by the car?
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I know the ADC incorporates cruise control but can you also set it for the distance you want to stay behind someone or is that pre determined by the car?
This might help explain:
http://www.volkswagen.co.uk/technology/proximity-sensing/adc
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Thanks. I'm still not sure as it goes on about automatic distance control then "You pre-set the speed range which you want the Adaptive Cruise Control to brake and accelerate the car within" nothing about distance you want to keep between you and the car in front or is that "the speed range"?!
Also in the blurb it states "The radar sensor is not capable of detecting stationary obstructions, such as the end of a tailback or crash barriers" yet in the graphic it shows the end of a tailback with the cars barely moving yet the Golf comes to a stop.
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Thanks. I'm still not sure as it goes on about automatic distance control then "You pre-set the speed range which you want the Adaptive Cruise Control to brake and accelerate the car within" nothing about distance you want to keep between you and the car in front or is that "the speed range"?!
Also in the blurb it states "The radar sensor is not capable of detecting stationary obstructions, such as the end of a tailback or crash barriers" yet in the graphic it shows the end of a tailback with the cars barely moving yet the Golf comes to a stop.
While I can't state how a DSG equipped car will behave, I have driven a golf with ADC. This was only at motorway speeds though, so I can't tell you if the minimum distance it keeps is dependent on the speed you are doing either (i.e. the 2 second rule).
However, yes, when you set the speed, you also set the distance you would like to keep between you and the car in front (like I said, there is a minimum). Once set, the car will automatically adjust its speed based on what is in front of you. With a clear road, it will cruise at the speed you set. If a car pulls in front of you and is slower, the car will automatically slow down to match the speed of the car in front to maintain that distance you set. If the car in front then speeds up, you will speed up. Or, if you pull out into an empty lane, it will automatically speed up and overtake. It's a neat system, and worked well.
If I understand correctly, a DSG car will effectively drive itself in stop-start traffic.
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If I understand correctly, a DSG car will effectively drive itself in stop-start traffic.
It won't be long now until you can get your car to automatically drive you home from the pub without fear of a drink driving charge. All it needs is park assist to park up when it comes to a stop and an intelligent sat-nav to tell it where to drive you home to.
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If I understand correctly, a DSG car will effectively drive itself in stop-start traffic.
Yes but... with the annoying stop/start system the engine will keep cutting out in heavy stop/go traffic. Once the car's engine has cut out I believe you have to press the 'Resume' button on the steering wheel to re-activate the ADC. Without the annoying stop/start system it would "practically" drive itself with DSG.
Apparently you can't turn off the stop/start system via VAGCOM but there is mention of a button you can press to disengage the system on each journey. From photos and the brochures I can't locate this button.
We shall see how it performs in practice. One of the many things to look forward to :whistle:
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If I understand correctly, a DSG car will effectively drive itself in stop-start traffic.
Yes but... with the annoying stop/start system the engine will keep cutting out in heavy stop/go traffic. Once the car's engine has cut out I believe you have to press the 'Resume' button on the steering wheel to re-activate the ADC. Without the annoying stop/start system it would "practically" drive itself with DSG.
Apparently you can't turn off the stop/start system via VAGCOM but there is mention of a button you can press to disengage the system on each journey. From photos and the brochures I can't locate this button.
We shall see how it performs in practice. One of the many things to look forward to :whistle:
Middle button on the left (not sure if it's on the right on uk cars) deactivates the stop start.
(http://i762.photobucket.com/albums/xx265/blaarp1/image_zps41b1917e.jpg)
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So long as the ignition isn't manually switched off, the drivers seatbelt removed or a door opened, then the Stop/Start system treats the whole of any particular journey as one cycle. Therefore, switching off the Stop/Start using the button that Jimble pointed out above, affects the whole journey from ignition cycle on to off, and vice versa.
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If I understand correctly, a DSG car will effectively drive itself in stop-start traffic.
Yes but... with the annoying stop/start system the engine will keep cutting out in heavy stop/go traffic. Once the car's engine has cut out I believe you have to press the 'Resume' button on the steering wheel to re-activate the ADC. Without the annoying stop/start system it would "practically" drive itself with DSG.
Apparently you can't turn off the stop/start system via VAGCOM but there is mention of a button you can press to disengage the system on each journey. From photos and the brochures I can't locate this button.
We shall see how it performs in practice. One of the many things to look forward to :whistle:
Middle button on the left (not sure if it's on the right on uk cars) deactivates the stop start.
(http://i762.photobucket.com/albums/xx265/blaarp1/image_zps41b1917e.jpg)
So that's where it is on DSG cars. Nice one Jimbo :smiley:
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So long as the ignition isn't manually switched off, the drivers seatbelt removed or a door opened, then the Stop/Start system treats the whole of any particular journey as one cycle. Therefore, switching off the Stop/Start using the button that Jimble pointed out above, affects the whole journey from ignition cycle on to off, and vice versa.
Interesting info Norbreck. Thanks.
Does that work for keyless entry cars too. From what you've said you would have to unclip your seat belt, open the drivers door and get out of the car for it to recognise an end of journey cycle. Does that sound right?
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Off topic, Is the starter button only a keyless feature?
Dave
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Off topic, Is the starter button only a keyless feature?
Dave
100% yes!
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While I can't state how a DSG equipped car will behave, I have driven a golf with ADC. This was only at motorway speeds though, so I can't tell you if the minimum distance it keeps is dependent on the speed you are doing either (i.e. the 2 second rule).
However, yes, when you set the speed, you also set the distance you would like to keep between you and the car in front (like I said, there is a minimum).
Is this a user set distance i.e. specific the way you can specifically set the speed or is it say one of a few choices that is already stored in the car?
Reason I ask is, I have made an effort with my current car to sit slightly further back from the car in front and what a difference it has made to stone chips. My previous Golf was covered in them by this time into ownership. However if you sit just too far back you get the folk cutting in in-front of you or leaving it to the last minute to come off the motorway from the outside lane so just cut you up.
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However if you sit just too far back you get the folk cutting in in-front of you or leaving it to the last minute to come off the motorway from the outside lane so just cut you up.
Argh! I hate that. Why are people so stupid? I often back off to leave a good stopping distance between me and the car in front only for some asshole to move into the gap. I back off again and another one does it! Are these people idiots?
Seriously. I think something like 95% of drivers are idiots or completely gormless and don't think more than 1 second ahead or pay any attention to what other people are doing. You get the odd driver who clearly has their head screwed on, responds to your car's body language and gives you a friendly wave, but the vast majority are in their own little world seemingly with no understanding of what id going on. And the looks they give you when THEY screw up!
/rant
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Is this a user set distance i.e. specific the way you can specifically set the speed or is it say one of a few choices that is already stored in the car?
Reason I ask is, I have made an effort with my current car to sit slightly further back from the car in front and what a difference it has made to stone chips. My previous Golf was covered in them by this time into ownership. However if you sit just too far back you get the folk cutting in in-front of you or leaving it to the last minute to come off the motorway from the outside lane so just cut you up.
Yes, it's a user-set distance, but there is a minimum for safety. I tend to drive far back from traffic anyway, especially on motorways, just because it's safer. It does give room for idiots to cut in without fair warning, but the system will just slow you down anyway if they do.
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Its the morons that nearly take the corner of your car off to get back into the inside lane when there is absolutely no other car anywhere near them!! Ggggrrr
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Yes, it's a user-set distance, but there is a minimum for safety.
Cheers Gryzor. Sorry to be a pain but how is it set? Is it on the MFD like the cruise? So you can specify a set distance?
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Cheers Gryzor. Sorry to be a pain but how is it set? Is it on the MFD like the cruise? So you can specify a set distance?
Yep, it is :) There is a button you press between the +/-:
(http://www.golfmk7.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=108&d=1348736471)
Its the morons that nearly take the corner of your car off to get back into the inside lane when there is absolutely no other car anywhere near them!! Ggggrrr
I just let them get on with stressing themselves out! Life's too short :)
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I just let them get on with stressing themselves out! Life's too short :)
Brilliant cheers.
Yeah I couldn't care less about them but when they are cutting in in front of your car by just a few feet at 80mph, its your car not theirs that is getting pebble dashed!! And we all know how poor VW paint is.
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Yeah I couldn't care less about them but when they are cutting in in front of your car by just a few feet at 80mph, its your car not theirs that is getting pebble dashed!! And we all know how poor VW paint is.
True, but paint chips can be repaired, unlike my sanity! Haha! True though, flat paint is never that great when held against the metallics etc, especially VW paint!
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Cheers Gryzor. Sorry to be a pain but how is it set? Is it on the MFD like the cruise? So you can specify a set distance?
Yep, it is :) There is a button you press between the +/-:
(http://www.golfmk7.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=108&d=1348736471)
Its the morons that nearly take the corner of your car off to get back into the inside lane when there is absolutely no other car anywhere near them!! Ggggrrr
I just let them get on with stressing themselves out! Life's too short :)
Is that the new MFSW? Where have the radio and telephone buttons gone?
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Other side, and the actual steering wheel is the same design but has a more metal finish to it.
(http://i762.photobucket.com/albums/xx265/blaarp1/image_zps3cdc15d4.jpg)