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Model specific boards => Golf mk3 => Topic started by: vwwvgolf on 24 April 2013, 13:00
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i read somewhere on here that the sump pan from the mk2 will fit the 16v, is this true??
i hit a lump yesterday and had oil isssing everywhere so believe the sump is cracked, although i havent been able to check this yet.
called vw and they want 120 somthing for a new sump and another 15 for gasket, + vat on top of it all.
but read the mk2 will fit and is stronger?? can anyone confirm this is true as the mk2 one is only 33 + vat
thanks
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The steel sump from the 'big block' Mk2 fits on the ABF 16V engine.
You will need to use different (shorter) bolts as the alloy sump is thicker, meaning the bolts are longer.
Alloy sump can crack if it gets hit, the steel sump is likely to dent instead, which I guess is safer.
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Well the standard 16v sump is aluminium, brittle and will crack/break if you hit it. Hence why on mine I have the steel sump from my old 8v engine. Just go to a scrapyard and find a 1.8 or 2l 8v and get the sump and bolts.
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cant get to the scrapyard without a car :(
ill have to cycle to the dealers
so if i order a mk3 8v sump and gasket and bolts, it will all be straight swap over??
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i think im guna bite the bullet and just pay the price, get the proper bits, so it all fits and works
not had a good week and cant be bothered with getting parts that dont fit and all that.
the car will end up with a spanner though the window or somthing stupid and end up in more a state :sad:
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Also try GSF / ECP
Though surprised you don't know anyone who could take you to a scrappy.
Scrap yard may not want to let you have just the sump though as they won't be able to sell the 8v engine complete.
The dealers won't have it on the shelf so it will be 2 days at the earliest (as it's after 13:00 now)
When you said cycle for some reason this image popped in my head:
(http://images4.fanpop.com/image/photos/16900000/Billy-the-Puppet-billy-saw-16905339-250-411.jpg)
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i might be able find a lift but local scrappy is a fair drive and chances of getting all the bits and getting them to fit again.. and ive got a cold :cry: also not had a good week so dont really want to be rolling around at the scrappy if i can i avoid it lol
excuses eh?
cant see your cycling imagery
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It was the Billy doll from the Saw films on a trike. :grin:
Go for the VW parts then, as it's a significant cost save versus the alloy sump :smiley:
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Try ECP they should be able to supply the parts and will be cheaper than the dealer
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Nobody bother considering the oil pick up pipe?
It's different on the KR to ABF...so unless you change that too, you are risking oil starvation because it picks up from a different part of the sump.
Just saying...
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He's got an ABF not a KR though. Oil pick up is the same on the ABF than it is on the 2l 8v, right?
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He's got an ABF not a KR though. Oil pick up is the same on the ABF than it is on the 2l 8v, right?
No idea.
Mk2 16v is KR.
Mk3 16v is ABF.
KR has the steel sump, ABF the cast alloy sump.
The KR steel sump fits an ABF. I know this for sure. But the KR has a different oil pump pick up...so if someone fits a KR sump & gasket, they need the matching KR oil pick up pipe...or risk oil starvation.
KR baffled sump is a good mod for a fast road/track ABF...as it's easy to modify a KR sump to add baffles/trapdoors etc...not so easy an ABF sump, and if you thump a KR sump, it doesn't break, it dents.