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Model specific boards => Golf mk4 => Topic started by: ollyjg on 23 April 2013, 20:43

Title: window fallen into front passenger door
Post by: ollyjg on 23 April 2013, 20:43
Okay, so today driving home, passenger window went down but didn't go all the way down to start with (about inch or two could be seen) and then the window wouldn't go back up. Attempted to pull the window back up and out, for it only to fall completely into the door now!

I rang my local garage who specialise in VW's and they said bring it to them tomorrow. After a bit of reading it seems like the regulator clips have gone, I'm convinced it's not the motor as I can hear it attempting to work.

Couple of questions;
1) Is it possible the window may have just slipped out of position and will just be easy to slot back on and work properly?

2) How much should I be looking to be charged for this? As a student, on a student loan don't want to be looking to pay out loads; neither do I want to get mugged off by the garage!

Thanks guys :)
Title: Re: window fallen into front passenger door
Post by: mar_k on 23 April 2013, 20:46
It will be the clips that have broke, There are kits on ebay for £10-£15 which include metal clips.
I had to do both my doors.
Title: Re: window fallen into front passenger door
Post by: ant_gti on 23 April 2013, 20:50
^^^^^this diy and save ya self some cash,shouldnt take too long  :wink:
Title: Re: window fallen into front passenger door
Post by: ollyjg on 23 April 2013, 20:58
Yeah I've read the DIY's on the net, had a go at trying to get the panel off earlier; I'm just not the hands on type of guy haha.. If I was to attempt to do this would this be the kit I need? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MK4-GOLF-BORA-WINDOW-REGULATOR-REPAIR-KIT-FRONT-LEFT-/220685515877?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&fits=Car+Make%3AVW%7CModel%3AGolf%7CPlat_Gen%3AMK+IV&hash=item3361e1bc65
Title: Re: window fallen into front passenger door
Post by: dom on 23 April 2013, 21:16
It will definitely be the clips and you won't be able to just slot it back into place. The item you have linked to is a regulator repair kit, it doesn't appear to include clips which is the only part you need.

Make sure that you replace your clips with metal ones otherwise they will just break again. It's a fairly straightforward job even for someone who isn't experienced, set aside an afternoon and get stuck in, a garage will charge 2-3 hours labour :wink:
Title: Re: window fallen into front passenger door
Post by: dom on 23 April 2013, 21:16
These are the clips you want:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MK4-GOLF-BORA-WINDOW-REGULATOR-REPAIR-KIT-METAL-CLIP-FRONT-LEFT-/220924963934?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&fits=Model%3AGolf%7CPlat_Gen%3AMK+IV&hash=item3370276c5e (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MK4-GOLF-BORA-WINDOW-REGULATOR-REPAIR-KIT-METAL-CLIP-FRONT-LEFT-/220924963934?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&fits=Model%3AGolf%7CPlat_Gen%3AMK+IV&hash=item3370276c5e)
Title: Re: window fallen into front passenger door
Post by: Blackie20vt on 23 April 2013, 21:18
It's really not that hard to do.
Title: Re: window fallen into front passenger door
Post by: ollyjg on 23 April 2013, 22:23
thanks for all the replies, going to have a look tomorrow. Just a bit worried leaving the car windowless :|
Title: Re: window fallen into front passenger door
Post by: ollyjg on 24 April 2013, 09:09
Is there any shops that sell these sort of clips rather than getting them online? I am in the Canterbury area
Title: Re: window fallen into front passenger door
Post by: mcgee9t2 on 24 April 2013, 12:43
Is there any shops that sell these sort of clips rather than getting them online? I am in the Canterbury area
vw


but its part of a window repair kit that comes with new cables to hang the clips on and everything, £40 iirc.

£70 for a whole new regulator pannel with everything already set up so you can just swap the pannels iirc.

(pprices were fom 2 years ago so may have changed)
Title: Re: window fallen into front passenger door
Post by: ollyjg on 24 April 2013, 13:23
I've ended up ordering the clips off eBay from the link up there ^
Praying that they would possibly be coming tomorrow as I ordered them early this morning.. although I am stuck as I don't have an 8mm triple square bit. Trip to Halfords is in order I think
Title: Re: window fallen into front passenger door
Post by: bobbarley on 24 April 2013, 13:55
Welcome to the club!
Title: Re: window fallen into front passenger door
Post by: ollyjg on 24 April 2013, 14:54
Welcome to the club!

haha thanks!
Title: Re: window fallen into front passenger door
Post by: GTi_James on 24 April 2013, 15:47
dont forget tp reseal, butyl is quite good
Title: Re: window fallen into front passenger door
Post by: ollyjg on 24 April 2013, 15:51
dont forget tp reseal, butyl is quite good

Newbie alert! Can you explain what you mean please mate? :)
Title: Re: window fallen into front passenger door
Post by: stu646 on 24 April 2013, 15:51
Mine happened last week too. Got the same clips you have ordered and now it is working fine

Can't wait to sell my MK4, biggest heap of sh!te I have owned. Locks, ABS, Windows, so many problems.
Title: Re: window fallen into front passenger door
Post by: ollyjg on 24 April 2013, 15:58
Mine happened last week too. Got the same clips you have ordered and now it is working fine

Can't wait to sell my MK4, biggest heap of sh!te I have owned. Locks, ABS, Windows, so many problems.

Reassuring that I know these clips work. I feel your pain with the MK4, owned it two weeks and already had more problems than I did on my M reg Micra. Can't complain too much though, I'm sure its a car I will grow to love :)
Title: Re: window fallen into front passenger door
Post by: dubber36 on 24 April 2013, 16:24
thanks for all the replies, going to have a look tomorrow. Just a bit worried leaving the car windowless :|

Pull the glass back up by hand and wedge it against the rubbers on the inside with end of some clothes pegs or something similar. Not pretty but it will keep the wind and rain out until you have time to fix it. You may need to take the door card off if you can't reach the glass if it's all the way inside the door.
Title: Re: window fallen into front passenger door
Post by: stu646 on 24 April 2013, 16:26
Mine happened last week too. Got the same clips you have ordered and now it is working fine

Can't wait to sell my MK4, biggest heap of sh!te I have owned. Locks, ABS, Windows, so many problems.

Reassuring that I know these clips work. I feel your pain with the MK4, owned it two weeks and already had more problems than I did on my M reg Micra. Can't complain too much though, I'm sure its a car I will grow to love :)

Don't get me wrong, I love driving it and had good fun while owning it but will never buy one again after I get rid of this. So many little common problems that seem to go wrong week after week.

This is by far and away the most trouble I have had with any car I have owned. Makes my old MK3 seem like the perfect car!
Title: Re: window fallen into front passenger door
Post by: ollyjg on 24 April 2013, 17:21
thanks for all the replies, going to have a look tomorrow. Just a bit worried leaving the car windowless :|

Pull the glass back up by hand and wedge it against the rubbers on the inside with end of some clothes pegs or something similar. Not pretty but it will keep the wind and rain out until you have time to fix it. You may need to take the door card off if you can't reach the glass if it's all the way inside the door.

The doors all the way inside the door at the moment; got the window bin bagged up for now aha. Thanks for the suggestion though :)

Mine happened last week too. Got the same clips you have ordered and now it is working fine

Can't wait to sell my MK4, biggest heap of sh!te I have owned. Locks, ABS, Windows, so many problems.

Reassuring that I know these clips work. I feel your pain with the MK4, owned it two weeks and already had more problems than I did on my M reg Micra. Can't complain too much though, I'm sure its a car I will grow to love :)

Don't get me wrong, I love driving it and had good fun while owning it but will never buy one again after I get rid of this. So many little common problems that seem to go wrong week after week.

This is by far and away the most trouble I have had with any car I have owned. Makes my old MK3 seem like the perfect car!

Yeah I love driving mine too, just worried about all the little problems as well aha :) No car comes without problems though I guess :)
Title: Re: window fallen into front passenger door
Post by: dom on 24 April 2013, 17:27
Count yourself lucky, my window dropped in January when it was sub zero...that wasn't a fun drive home :grin:
Title: Re: window fallen into front passenger door
Post by: mcgee9t2 on 24 April 2013, 18:01
Count yourself lucky, my window dropped in January when it was sub zero...that wasn't a fun drive home :grin:

mine did a few years ago in december, remember when we had like a good few inches of snow. the worste its been for a good few years. yeah that winter. safe to say i drove everywere with the heater on full blast and 2 coats, hat, scarf and gloves on for the first day, then taped up the window untill my clips arrived :D
Title: Re: window fallen into front passenger door
Post by: ollyjg on 25 April 2013, 12:09
haha yeah I am glad the weather is quite nice!

Does anyone know what shop I can get the 8mm triple square tool from? Halfords do it but it's in a set of 100 on their website.. would rather just get the tool alone.. anywhere like B&Q or anything that anyone knows of?
Title: Re: window fallen into front passenger door
Post by: mcgee9t2 on 25 April 2013, 12:45
i used an allen key to do mine.

just be carefull you dont round the bolt. cant remember what size hex key it was though
Title: Re: window fallen into front passenger door
Post by: ollyjg on 25 April 2013, 21:53
Job is all done, turned out to be a bit fiddly but all sorted now :) Thanks for the help and suggestions guys :)