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Model specific boards => Golf mk3 => Topic started by: EsSeX dAn on 17 April 2013, 23:41

Title: ABF 16v high milage
Post by: EsSeX dAn on 17 April 2013, 23:41
hi all, what is on average the kind of milages that these ABF engines tend to let go on? i know it depends on servicibg, how its driven etc but im just after a general sort of thing here. also ive read if you put the 1.8 kr cams in, it makes it a little more livley. how true is this? thanks!
Title: Re: ABF 16v high milage
Post by: xionsolaris on 18 April 2013, 06:32
Kr cams is a de tune as theres more lift on abf i donno about letting go but i would say rebuild at 180k miles
Title: Re: ABF 16v high milage
Post by: tweed on 18 April 2013, 08:27
I've seen some still going at over 200,000 but I've seen couple with worn out shells at 120,000.

Go by the servicing. 

Kr cams is not true!
Title: Re: ABF 16v high mileage
Post by: Metallix on 18 April 2013, 10:38
(http://i819.photobucket.com/albums/zz111/Nellis_T/VW%2016V/KRvsABF.jpg)
from this thread:
http://www.clubgti.com/showthread.php?156126-A-VW-16v-camshaft-study

As for the ABF, they are very strong engines
Title: Re: ABF 16v high milage
Post by: Len on 18 April 2013, 12:21
Define high mielage.

Mine is on 148k atm
Title: Re: ABF 16v high milage
Post by: Foreveryoungaus16v on 18 April 2013, 12:49
hi all, what is on average the kind of milages that these ABF engines tend to let go on? i know it depends on servicibg, how its driven etc but im just after a general sort of thing here. also ive read if you put the 1.8 kr cams in, it makes it a little more livley. how true is this? thanks!

Some of the aftermarket cams are designed for KR or ABF and in reality, aren't much more aggressive than standard ABF cams...so an utter waste of money.
Title: Re: ABF 16v high milage
Post by: Metallix on 18 April 2013, 13:09
Good point Len,

I would personally say 148,000 on your car is normal / average.

~90,000 miles and lower = low miles

high miles is ~180,000 & upwards.
Title: Re: ABF 16v high milage
Post by: VW BUSH on 18 April 2013, 14:38
I have tried all the VW cam swaps going in 8v and 16v versions, KR 9A PB ABF, nothing has worked as well as £600 spent with Mr Schrick on a pair of cams and vernier pulley.

My current 8v has 187k on the clock and the two valvers down't yard have 140k and 220k respectivley.
 
Title: Re: ABF 16v high milage
Post by: Metallix on 18 April 2013, 14:55
In order of hottest to mildest =  ABF,  KR,  9A

Obviously aftermarket items are available with more duration & lift,
but this was to originally answer that Dan had read KR cams were an upgrade over ABF, which is false.
Title: Re: ABF 16v high milage
Post by: murraymint on 18 April 2013, 16:25
Mine has 152k and my old one was about 170k both pulled nice
Title: Re: ABF 16v high milage
Post by: GOLF-MK3-GTI on 18 April 2013, 16:31
I would say that every engine that came in a MK3 are built to last.  :rolleyes:

As long as it's been looked after'd well
Title: Re: ABF 16v high milage
Post by: spikenipple on 18 April 2013, 17:02
Mine has just ticked over 159k and is going strong!
Title: Re: ABF 16v high milage
Post by: Leroy on 18 April 2013, 17:57
Coming upto 170k miles, lots of history showing regular servicing and oil changes and mine is purring like a kitten....touch wood
Title: Re: ABF 16v high milage
Post by: Ess_Three on 18 April 2013, 18:09
I have tried all the VW cam swaps going in 8v and 16v versions, KR 9A PB ABF, nothing has worked as well as £600 spent with Mr Schrick on a pair of cams and vernier pulley.

I agree...best cams out there.
Title: Re: ABF 16v high milage
Post by: northeast_gti-t on 18 April 2013, 19:15
I have tried all the VW cam swaps going in 8v and 16v versions, KR 9A PB ABF, nothing has worked as well as £600 spent with Mr Schrick on a pair of cams and vernier pulley.

My current 8v has 187k on the clock and the two valvers down't yard have 140k and 220k respectivley.

Sounds good to me mines at near 159k and since i have carried out a service its running sweet and quiet really pleased  :smiley:
Title: Re: ABF 16v high milage
Post by: Screech16v on 18 April 2013, 19:36
My abf was on 170k when I pulled it out ,was a good engine still but could see some scouring on the cam lobes.
Title: Re: ABF 16v high milage
Post by: Jamin on 19 April 2013, 18:59
My .mk3 has close to 200,000 miles on it. Came with a thorough history and it still runs sweet!!
Title: Re: ABF 16v high milage
Post by: ttelracs on 19 April 2013, 21:54
Mine is 30 miles shy of 170k, running sweet, getting 35 mpg on long run, but need to change the downpipe as slight blow... Regular oil changes and changing the cam belts are the key to long lasting engines
Title: Re: ABF 16v high milage
Post by: xionsolaris on 19 April 2013, 22:21
Mine is 30 miles shy of 170k, running sweet, getting 35 mpg on long run, but need to change the downpipe as slight blow... Regular oil changes and changing the cam belts are the key to long lasting engines
also a key to a good engine is not having it boy raced to the rev limiter all the time that wears the engine
Title: Re: ABF 16v high milage
Post by: VW BUSH on 20 April 2013, 11:29
Mine is 30 miles shy of 170k, running sweet, getting 35 mpg on long run, but need to change the downpipe as slight blow... Regular oil changes and changing the cam belts are the key to long lasting engines
also a key to a good engine is not having it boy raced to the rev limiter all the time that wears the engine
I seriously ragged the sh!t out of my old MK2's, its all about servicing that keeps them running strong