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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: Sootchucker on 14 April 2013, 09:13
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Hi all. Just looking through the price lists and standard MK7 catalogue, and when it comes to the discover Nav pro upgrade, I notice there's no longer any mention of it acting as a wifi hotspot. In some of the original promo material from last year, under the full description of the Nav pro it ended with;
"In addition, the Discover Pro also operates as a WLAN hotspot to enable Internet access for a WLAN-capable mobile device (smart phone or tablet)."
As there's no longer any mention, do we assume this has been dropped or yet another example of VWUK getting the specs wrong. I ask as I'm also considering an Audi A3, however the Audi Connect system also isn't available in the UK, so was wondering if it was something to do with UK regulations that's preventing it from being sold here ?
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Audi connect is on my A1 and has wifi hotspot so not sure what the issue would be.
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I'm not sure it's a big deal anyway. My android phone has a wifi-hotspot in it, and I presume this is a standard feature on smartphones these days, so if your kids need access in the back, just do it through your (free data plan) phone!
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Yeah that makes sense. The only negative there is, the phone is using its own built in aerial so might not pull in enough strength whereas when you activate the "carphone" profile, it uses the cars aerial and the signal is much stronger.
I hit a patchy bit on the way to work in terms of signal and my call used to always drop if just using bluetooth. Now when I use the carphone its perfect. But I would agree its not such a big deal.
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Apparently if the Nav unit is on and you have Keyless entry, and you open the drivers door but the engine is still running the Nav will switch off. That could be a bit annoying...
Not sure if the same applies to the basic nav or the ... whatever the non nav thingy is called.
EDIT:
By nav I mean the entire unit. So it will stop navigation, music, bluetooth etc etc...
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I think if you leave the engine on an d get out of the car so the key gies out of range it will all switch off.
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I think if you leave the engine on an d get out of the car so the key gies out of range it will all switch off.
I didn't know that but it makes sense. I think I'm referring to something else though.
VW don't seem to want to give out the Nav manual for free, but Skoda do and I'm guessing their systems are not that dissimilar. Here is the relevant line in the Skoda manual:
If your vehicle is fitted with the KESSY system, the unit will switch off automatically
after the engine is turned off and the door is opened. If you open the driver's
door before switching off the engine, the unit will also switch off.
Which seems to imply to me if you hop out to use a bin, ring a door bell, open the boot, pick something up etc etc.... or even if you just open the door to have a look at the kerb, be handed a bag, kiss your wife goodbye... then it will turn off. Ok, its not like this would happen all the time, but I do periodically open the drivers door while leaving the engine running, even if I don't get out.
I can't see a reason why the unit would need to switch off if the engine is still running.
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If your vehicle is fitted with the KESSY system, the unit will switch off automatically
after the engine is turned off and the door is opened. If you open the driver's
door before switching off the engine, the unit will also switch off.
So if my car has a reversing camera and parking sensors, I'll have nice images and graphics on the screen to help me do a manoeuvre. I then pop the door open for a second to see how close I am to the kerb and the screen shuts off?
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why would you want to open the door to check? you've got a camera, sensors and a dipping wing mirror on the nearside.
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why would you want to open the door to check? you've got a camera, sensors and a dipping wing mirror on the nearside.
The mirror dips on the passenger side, so if I was parking next to a kerb on the drivers side I might want to pop the door open. I suppose my point is that there is a perfectly normal situation that could lead to your screen shutting off because of the way kessy is wired up. Doesn't sound ideal.
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So if my car has a reversing camera and parking sensors, I'll have nice images and graphics on the screen to help me do a manoeuvre. I then pop the door open for a second to see how close I am to the kerb and the screen shuts off?
Yeah that is what I'm getting at. Yes yes I'm sure any specific example like this someone can come up with a way that you don't need to open the door, but that isn't the point. Occasionally you are going to open the door while the engine is running... I don't see why the system should shut off in this case.
I wonder if you can change it in the software?
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Slightly off topic but if Wi-Fi Hotspot is no longer supported than what do you gain from the Nav Pro over the normal Nav? A slightly bigger screen and the ability to play DVD's and an internal HDD for £1000? Seems steep!
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Slightly off topic but if Wi-Fi Hotspot is no longer supported than what do you gain from the Nav Pro over the normal Nav? A slightly bigger screen and the ability to play DVD's and an internal HDD for £1000? Seems steep!
Yes it is steep. But you get some other stuff too. I forget the full list but the 64GB SSD is an obvious highlight. Not sure if the basic nav gets 2 SD slots, but you get 2 on the Pro. The screen is more than "slightly" bigger though. Its double the resolution, which is quite a big deal (I used to design these things).
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And pro gets 3D nav where normal gets 2D and 2.5D (whatever that is) :)
Normal has 2 SD slots, one is used for Nav data.
The 64GB SSD swung it for me - but apparently you can only use 20GB as the other is used for Nav data
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The 64GB SSD swung it for me - but apparently you can only use 20GB as the other is used for Nav data
This says 30:
http://www.volkswagen.co.uk/technology/navigation-and-entertainment-systems/discover-nav-pro
But I'll believe it when I see it! :grin:
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Just watched the vid and it says 10! Damn VW inconsitstancies! It better be more than 10 though. I'm not a music buff, yet I have something like 8GB just in stuff I bought on iTunes. 10 is not enough space. Even 30 is pushing it.
However, you can always grab a 64GB SCXC card for music.
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The 64GB SSD swung it for me - but apparently you can only use 20GB as the other is used for Nav data
This says 30:
http://www.volkswagen.co.uk/technology/navigation-and-entertainment-systems/discover-nav-pro
But I'll believe it when I see it! :grin:
Cool - its changed since I ordered !
PS - pro also have voice control
Its my one and only option - had to splash out :)
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The 64GB SSD swung it for me - but apparently you can only use 20GB as the other is used for Nav data
This says 30:
http://www.volkswagen.co.uk/technology/navigation-and-entertainment-systems/discover-nav-pro
But I'll believe it when I see it! :grin:
Cool - its changed since I ordered !
PS - pro also have voice control
Its my one and only option - had to splash out :)
The 64GB SSD drive is nice but voice control has always been very useless and doesn't understand simple commands most of the time. With the multi-function steering wheel I can't see it ever being that useful.
The larger screen is nice I suppose, I really think they should have sold the Pro Nav for £1000 and that would be far more reasonable though.
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why would you want to open the door to check? you've got a camera, sensors and a dipping wing mirror on the nearside.
The mirror dips on the passenger side, so if I was parking next to a kerb on the drivers side I might want to pop the door open. I suppose my point is that there is a perfectly normal situation that could lead to your screen shutting off because of the way kessy is wired up. Doesn't sound ideal.
I suppose if you open the drivers door and you've taken your seat belt off you'll have to fiddle around with the auto brake anyway. if your in the car still then nothing should shut off
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Was just thinking about this again, when i was sat in the demo at stoutbridge vw, the sales lady was leaning on the open drivers door with the key in her hand but i could still turn the nav unit on??
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When I had my two test drives (one for me and one for the missus), on both occasions the dealer had the key and was standing away from the car ie. not in it nor by the drivers door - and on both occasions the nav, radio etc worked - and this was on the DNS and the DNS Pro.
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When I had my two test drives (one for me and one for the missus), on both occasions the dealer had the key and was standing away from the car ie. not in it nor by the drivers door - and on both occasions the nav, radio etc worked - and this was on the DNS and the DNS Pro.
Was just thinking about this again, when i was sat in the demo at stoutbridge vw, the sales lady was leaning on the open drivers door with the key in her hand but i could still turn the nav unit on??
Guys, what was the condition before hand though? Is this with the engine on or off? You started with it on, then opened the door or what?
I'm not saying its not possible to turn the thing on when the engine is off or the door open or the key outside or whatever, only that if it is already on, and you open the door, it will turn off. If I've turned it on and I don't want it to go off when I open the door and I don't see why it should. If I turn off the ignition that is another matter, I can see why it would be good to make you restart the nav manually in this case otherwise it might run the battery down...
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Full paragraph from Skoda manual.
› Press the knob to switch the unit on or off.
After switching on the unit, the last audio source and operating mode that was
active before switching off will be played.
If telephone mode was active before you switched off the unit and the ignition
and Bluetooth® function is not switched on, the unit displays the message
» page 33. Switch on the ignition or the Bluetooth® function» page 13.
If the vehicle key is pulled out of the ignition lock while the unit is switched on,
the unit will switch off automatically. After switching on the ignition, the unit is
turned on automatically.
The unit does not turn on automatically when the ignition is switched on if it was
turned off with the adjustment knob .
If your vehicle is fitted with the KESSY system, the unit will switch off automatically
after the engine is turned off and the door is opened. If you open the driver's
door before switching off the engine, the unit will also switch off.
When the ignition is switched off, the system switches off automatically after approx.
half an hour (discharge protection of the vehicle battery).
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Both times the engine was off. I do not know if the nav turns off when you turn the ignition off but I would assume so. Then if you want it back on then you'd physically have to press the on button.
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Both times the engine was off. I do not know if the nav turns off when you turn the ignition off but I would assume so. Then if you want it back on then you'd physically have to press the on button.
Yep, that is pretty clear. You can turn if on if the ignition is off and it stays on for some period of time (30mins for Skoda). If it is on and you pop the ignition off it goes off too, then comes back on when you next turn on the ignition.
What is not certain is why they would make it so with Keyless it goes off if the drivers door is opened (apparently regardless of if the ignition is turned off or not). If the ignition is off and the nav on and you open the door I've no idea what happens...