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Model specific boards => Golf mk6 => Topic started by: najam90 on 29 March 2013, 15:50
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my gtd take an awfull long time to warm up, just wondering if it normal?
when starting for the first time in the mornings, it sits idle for around 25-30mins before the oil temperature needle even moves.
sometimes when in a rush and i cant leave the car idle, driving it for around 12 minutes warms the car up.
now ive never had a diesel in the past and obviously its longer to warm them up, but is this even normal? ive been told by others that this is not good
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I never leave mine to sit and idle, it's a modern car at the end of the day...
Once in motion takes around 10mins or so to get up to temp...
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Diesels take a while to warm up as there so efficient,
All perfectly normal .
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Not I'm... :wink:
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If you're leaving your car unattended for up to 1/2 hr with the engine running, if it was stolen, there's a fair chance your insurer would repudiate your claim for leaving the car unattended with the keys left in the ignition, so not a good idea to do this.
Like Mr GTD, I never leave mine to idle either. It'll get up to normal operating temperature much quicker if you just get in and drive it, and you'll not be wasting fuel either.
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Mines not a gtd, but a mk5 GT TDI...but I'm thinking the same principle on it,
I work 30miles away from home, the main (fast) road I take is 45sec approx from driveway to main drag, I never leave it to warm up, I just go go go lol..I just take it steady until it get up to temp, don't rag it in all gears until warm, change gear around 2000-2500 rpm, it takes around 8-10mins before the temp gauge is on 90,
It has 136200 miles on it, I've had it since March 2010, at 74540..the 'chocolate' turbo is whining but it's still as responsive as day one(VW Technicians words not mine lol)
Yours sounds normal pal, keep the revs now as much as you can until its up to temperature and it'll be fine
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If you're leaving your car unattended for up to 1/2 hr with the engine running, if it was stolen, there's a fair chance your insurer would repudiate your claim for leaving the car unattended with the keys left in the ignition, so not a good idea to do this.
Like Mr GTD, I never leave mine to idle either. It'll get up to normal operating temperature much quicker if you just get in and drive it, and you'll not be wasting fuel either.
Thats not an issue as my back garden has an electrical shutter. But when I do get in and drive it straightaway, for the first few miles my average mpg is around 10-15mpg!! and thats without going over 1750rpm and driving easy.
The reason why im worried is because I blew the engine on my previous car within 12k miles and the reason for that is driving off straightaway and redlining it whilst cold! However to be fair.....it was a peaugot afterall :sick:
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If you're leaving your car unattended for up to 1/2 hr with the engine running, if it was stolen, there's a fair chance your insurer would repudiate your claim for leaving the car unattended with the keys left in the ignition, so not a good idea to do this.
Like Mr GTD, I never leave mine to idle either. It'll get up to normal operating temperature much quicker if you just get in and drive it, and you'll not be wasting fuel either.
Thats not an issue as my back garden has an electrical shutter. But when I do get in and drive it straightaway, for the first few miles my average mpg is around 10-15mpg!! and thats without going over 1750rpm and driving easy.
The reason why im worried is because I blew the engine on my previous car within 12k miles and the reason for that is driving off straightaway and redlining it whilst cold! However to be fair.....it was a peaugot afterall :sick:
To be fair any engine will blow or wear very quickly if you get in it from cold and thrash the nuts of it plus Peugeot are renowned for making some of the best diesels on the market that's why bmw use it in the mini :wink: :wink:
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If you're leaving your car unattended for up to 1/2 hr with the engine running, if it was stolen, there's a fair chance your insurer would repudiate your claim for leaving the car unattended with the keys left in the ignition, so not a good idea to do this.
Like Mr GTD, I never leave mine to idle either. It'll get up to normal operating temperature much quicker if you just get in and drive it, and you'll not be wasting fuel either.
Thats not an issue as my back garden has an electrical shutter. But when I do get in and drive it straightaway, for the first few miles my average mpg is around 10-15mpg!! and thats without going over 1750rpm and driving easy.
The reason why im worried is because I blew the engine on my previous car within 12k miles and the reason for that is driving off straightaway and redlining it whilst cold! However to be fair.....it was a peaugot afterall :sick:
To be fair any engine will blow or wear very quickly if you get in it from cold and thrash the nuts of it plus Peugeot are renowned for making some of the best diesels on the market that's why bmw use it in the mini :wink: :wink:
Haha Peugeot may have the best diesel engines, but this was a 1.6 petrol AUTO :sick: :sick: :sick: :sick: :sick: :sick:
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If you're leaving your car unattended for up to 1/2 hr with the engine running, if it was stolen, there's a fair chance your insurer would repudiate your claim for leaving the car unattended with the keys left in the ignition, so not a good idea to do this.
Like Mr GTD, I never leave mine to idle either. It'll get up to normal operating temperature much quicker if you just get in and drive it, and you'll not be wasting fuel either.
Thats not an issue as my back garden has an electrical shutter. But when I do get in and drive it straightaway, for the first few miles my average mpg is around 10-15mpg!! and thats without going over 1750rpm and driving easy.
The reason why im worried is because I blew the engine on my previous car within 12k miles and the reason for that is driving off straightaway and redlining it whilst cold! However to be fair.....it was a peaugot afterall :sick:
To be fair any engine will blow or wear very quickly if you get in it from cold and thrash the nuts of it plus Peugeot are renowned for making some of the best diesels on the market that's why bmw use it in the mini :wink: :wink:
Haha Peugeot may have the best diesel engines, but this was a 1.6 petrol AUTO :sick: :sick: :sick: :sick: :sick: :sick:
like I said above any engine will blow if you get in it straight away and thrash the nuts of it just drive it steady until it warms up and you will also see your mpg rise as well :cool:
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The gauge on your dash is coolant, not oil
Also the worst thing you can do is to let your car sit idle. All you are doing is clogging it up. Much better to get in and drive straight off
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I would say that in 6 miles (approx 10 mins) the water is at 90 degrees the oil on the other hand has only just got to 50 degrees, its quite a bit longer before the oil is at 90 degrees. I would say at least another 5 miles. All when the outside temp is 0-4 degrees. The highest I have ever had the oil is 111 degrees hummm it was a warmer day too on the motorway.
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30 minutes idling - you must have money to burn! With the current cold weather, my GTD takes around 10 minutes of steady A road driving before it's up to a reasonable temperature. By then, I'll be getting around 40 mpg before hitting the motorway.
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Just Google it....... I think you'll find that the consensus is NOT to idle when cold - for many reasons.
Start the car and by the time you've fiddled with the mirror, seatbelt, ICE, etc etc, it's ready to go..... But DON'T drive it like it's stolen... Wait till the (coolant) temp is coming up to the 90 mark before caning it.
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10 seconds on idle to allow the oil to get around the turbo is ideal, then set off. Don't go over 2k revs for the first ten mins until the coolant is up to 90. Bare in mind though the oil takes even longer to heat through.
Leaving idling to warm up means there's no load. It's load that creates heat. Idling whilst cold means you're leaving your car running, with no temperature in the oil wearing things much quicker than driving.
Redlining whilst cold is a bit stupid if I'm honest...
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...when I do get in and drive it straightaway, for the first few miles my average mpg is around 10-15mpg!! and thats without going over 1750rpm and driving easy.
Is that steep up-hill or something?! I never leave mine to idle unless I'm scraping ice off, but I can average 30 mpg before the end of my road, from cold, in these chilly conditions, and that's less than a mile. All very slightly up-hill, but only slightly. I've managed, straight from cold, 52 mpg on a 7-mile/10-minute journey into work.
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Woah! Why would you let it idle for 30 mins from cold?! Bad idea!
Like you said, redlining from cold isn't good. The simple answer is to get into the car and drive it normally, without redlining and letting it idle for an excessive amount of time. You've gone from one extreme to the other, and neither are good for your engine. :huh:
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Im still a novice and in my mind it just seemed like a good thing to leave the car started until the oil temp rose.
But thanks for your suggestions and wont be leaving it idle again!
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That's what the forum is for help and advice I've had both so enjoy the gtd great car much better than a Peugeot :evil:
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^^^Don't forget the Sarcasm... :laugh:
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All this "get in the car and drive" is all very well, but you can't do that if it's all iced up.
I have always left my cars to idle to de-ice themselves. I block the drive with one car, whilst the other de-ices. Then swap them round and do the other car if they are both going out.
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Or you could use de-icer...or scrape it...that's what I have to do when starting work at 3am..
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...and saving the planet.
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Or you could use de-icer...or scrape it...that's what I have to do when starting work at 3am..
Agreed, pisses me right off hearing my neighbours car idling out in the street for 15mins in the early hours of the morning as they are too lazy to scrape their cars and bugger off....sorry but it gets my goat :angry:
To the OP, start your car and let the fluids circulate for a few seconds then your good to go with a gentle right for 10-15 mins until car is fully warmed up.
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I try to be as courteous as possible, the neighbours on the other hand...despite them knowing I start work between 3-4:15 every morning...meaning bed by 7pm...are noisy as anything, I'm not asking them to live in silence....but hammering, drilling and loud music...slightly take the piss lol
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All this "get in the car and drive" is all very well, but you can't do that if it's all iced up.
I have always left my cars to idle to de-ice themselves. I block the drive with one car, whilst the other de-ices. Then swap them round and do the other car if they are both going out.
Bucket + water = de-iced
Quicker than shuffling the cars around and waiting, better on your pocket, better on the environment, better for your engine and p1sses the neighbours off less
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Couple of quid bags you a windscreen shield. Remove in 20 seconds and drive away. No scraping and no de-icer needed :smug:
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A few 600mls cans of de-icer from the likes of the 99p shop does the trick... :lipsrsealed:
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A few 600mls cans of de-icer from the likes of the 99p shop does the trick... :lipsrsealed:
You have to keep buying de-icer though
You lot must have money to burn.....literally :grin: :grin:
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A few 600mls cans of de-icer from the likes of the 99p shop does the trick... :lipsrsealed:
You have to keep buying de-icer though
You lot must have money to burn.....literally :grin: :grin:
Na not really, I stocked up at the beginning of winter and I don't really use a great amount at a time cus as we all know the south ain't the coldest place to be in the country...
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All you need a blanket or a sheet over the windscreen...saves all the scrapping or need for de-icer..and if you leave it running and it gets stolen..insurance won't cover the claim..
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When ever I've done the blanket thing, it's ended up raining that night and I end up with a soaking wet blanket to dry.
Wax striping de-icer has always been a no no for me.
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Using a scraper??
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I personally use luke warm tap water, not so hot it'll crack the screen but warm enough to melt the ice.
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http://www.amazon.co.uk/Car-Windscreen-Frost-Snow-Cover/dp/B001Q8HAB2/ref=sr_1_2?s=automotive&ie=UTF8&qid=1364682015&sr=1-2
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my gtd take an awfull long time to warm up, just wondering if it normal?
when starting for the first time in the mornings, it sits idle for around 25-30mins before the oil temperature needle even moves.
As suggested don't leave it idling just drive it.
They do take a while to warm up because its diesel more of the heat does more work and not being sent to the cooling system thats why they are more fuel efficient.
The oil temperature on the MFD doesn't show anything until it get to 50°C.
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No ice scraping for me the GTD lives in the garage. :grin:
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My car don't fit in the garage :cry:
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One option I looked for when I ordered was a heated front screen, we've had Land Rovers and Focus's that have has them for donkey's years and they're a godsend on a frozen morning!
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My car don't fit in the garage :cry:
Mine either.....physically can just get it in but far too tight to make it practical for every day use :sad:
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My car don't fit in the garage :cry:
Mine either.....physically can just get it in but far too tight to make it practical for every day use :sad:
mine sticks out 4 inches lol
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Mine would fit in the garage, but then I'd need to find a home for everything else dumped in there!! :embarrassed:
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I can get my GTD in the garage, but I have to exit the car through the sunroof.
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I haven't got a garage :cry:
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mine sticks out 4 inches lol
Not sure that's anything to brag about :tongue:
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mine sticks out 4 inches lol
Not sure that's anything to brag about :tongue:
sounds like you need to extend it :grin:
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You need a towbar.
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haha..well there is always someone to lower the tone :laugh:
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I can get my GTD in the garage, but I have to exit the car through the sunroof.
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Well I can shove it all the way in with a few inches to spare. I can then even get out using the normal method. :shocked:
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Well I can shove it all the way in with a few inches to spare. I can then even get out using the normal method. :shocked:
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This has turned into a 'can you fit your Golf in the Garage' thread :laugh: :grin:
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This has turned into a 'can you fit your Golf in the Garage' thread :laugh: :grin:
or shed!!!!!! :wink:
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Eh come on now, my car isn't that bad!!
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Eh come on now, my car isn't that bad!!
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:cry:
your garage is better than my 2 sheds :smiley:
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Maybe I shud re-title it.... :laugh:
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Back on topic it warms up quicker if you press the climate Off button, and use the heated seats to start with.
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Maybe I shud re-title it.... :laugh:
nah it's good to wonder sometimes :wink: