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Title: AGG 2.0 8V camshaft upgrade advice
Post by: Callum_K on 28 March 2013, 16:10
Hi all,

I'm looking to upgrade the camshaft in my '97 AGG 2.0 8V. I have a fair idea of what I want, but looking on the web I have seen (mainly on US sites) that aggressive cams are not suitable for OBD2 motors as they only have single valve springs in the head rather than doubles on earlier engines.

Just wondering if this is specific to North American ABA engines or ours too?

What lift/duration cam are people running in their AGG and any issues with valve float or bind etc?

Thanks in advance!

Title: Re: AGG 2.0 8V camshaft upgrade advice
Post by: VW BUSH on 28 March 2013, 19:40
If the Cam too aggressive it will show a fault on the management before you even need to worry about springs.
Khare did an RR print on his 8v and got 138 bhp iirc with all his other mods, good power gain but still no puff after 5.5k
neuspd 256 for OBD is about £150
Title: Re: AGG 2.0 8V camshaft upgrade advice
Post by: Khare on 28 March 2013, 22:58
If the Cam too aggressive it will show a fault on the management before you even need to worry about springs.
Khare did an RR print on his 8v and got 138 bhp iirc with all his other mods, good power gain but still no puff after 5.5k
neuspd 256 for OBD is about £150

Correct.

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/golf%20mk3/RtechUKdynochart-1.jpg)

I had a Kent GS23H, which is 286 degrees and 11.52mm lift.

Other mods were cat back exhaust, airbox smoothed and derestricted and pipercorss panel filter.
Title: Re: AGG 2.0 8V camshaft upgrade advice
Post by: Callum_K on 28 March 2013, 23:00
Was that on an AGG/ADY or 2E?

I'm looking at a Neuspeed 268, as AwesomeGTI ate doing them for £133 delivered.
Title: Re: AGG 2.0 8V camshaft upgrade advice
Post by: Callum_K on 28 March 2013, 23:03
Other mods will be a cat back exhaust, chipped ECU, smoothed airbox, K&N panel filter and ported throttle body.Not really expecting anything mind blowing, just doing it for fun really!
Title: Re: AGG 2.0 8V camshaft upgrade advice
Post by: Khare on 28 March 2013, 23:49
It was an ADY.

For £133 I'd go for it, but from a 268 cam don't expect massive massive gains.
Title: Re: AGG 2.0 8V camshaft upgrade advice
Post by: wayedy on 29 March 2013, 01:34
It was an ADY.

For £133 I'd go for it, but from a 268 cam don't expect massive massive gains.

which ones better 268 or 260? also the price is £167.18???
Title: Re: AGG 2.0 8V camshaft upgrade advice
Post by: Khare on 29 March 2013, 09:19
Longer duration = valve open more time
Title: Re: AGG 2.0 8V camshaft upgrade advice
Post by: Callum_K on 29 March 2013, 09:27
The 268 is £133 on their eBay shop. Don't think you can run anything with longer duration on the AGG without confusing the ECU and getting an engine management light.
Title: Re: AGG 2.0 8V camshaft upgrade advice
Post by: VW BUSH on 29 March 2013, 09:58
is that the right print out Khare :whistle:
Title: Re: AGG 2.0 8V camshaft upgrade advice
Post by: Khare on 29 March 2013, 10:10
is that the right print out Khare :whistle:

Yup. Fly figures in bracket  :smiley:
Title: Re: AGG 2.0 8V camshaft upgrade advice
Post by: VW BUSH on 29 March 2013, 12:50
is that the right print out Khare :whistle:

Yup. Fly figures in bracket  :smiley:
oh yeah, teach me to just look at the graph :lipsrsealed:
Title: Re: AGG 2.0 8V camshaft upgrade advice
Post by: Leroy on 30 March 2013, 10:44
My AGG was cammed on my old anni, it was lumpy as hell at idle but it used to noticeably pick up acceleration from 3k nice and smooth. Dont ask me what cam it was though.
Title: Re: AGG 2.0 8V camshaft upgrade advice
Post by: Callum_K on 30 March 2013, 15:05
Gonna get the Neuspeed 268. It has a 113° lobe center which according to the camshaft thread on here will provide a smooth idle and no loss of low RPM power.
Title: Re: AGG 2.0 8V camshaft upgrade advice
Post by: xionsolaris on 31 March 2013, 08:31
How much mpg do u loose when cammed
Title: Re: AGG 2.0 8V camshaft upgrade advice
Post by: tweed on 31 March 2013, 08:42
I've lost about 2mpg but I do put my foot down more because it has power lol

I got the 286 it has a lumpy idle but runs fine low rpm.
Title: Re: AGG 2.0 8V camshaft upgrade advice
Post by: VW BUSH on 31 March 2013, 16:03
I've lost about 2mpg but I do put my foot down more because it has power lol

I got the 286 it has a lumpy idle but runs fine low rpm.

I lost a lot more mpg, if I thrash it to my folks house I do a fiver which is literally a pound per mile.
I am considering selling it on with the other two Mk3's i have at the mo, might make me an extra £100 :laugh:
Title: Re: AGG 2.0 8V camshaft upgrade advice
Post by: smithyvr6 on 01 April 2013, 20:48
Do you need a chipped ecu to upgrade the cam or is it just a straight swap...?
Title: Re: AGG 2.0 8V camshaft upgrade advice
Post by: Callum_K on 01 April 2013, 23:06
Don't need a chipped ECU but sure it would help with some of the more aggressive cams. Just got a refund on my Neuspeed 268 because they"re now out of production, typical!
Title: Re: AGG 2.0 8V camshaft upgrade advice
Post by: Callum_K on 02 April 2013, 13:22
Went for a Newman Schrick-copy 268 in the end, this is my daily driver and spend a lot of time in traffic so didn't want something too lairy, should kick in about 2500 rpm.
Title: Re: AGG 2.0 8V camshaft upgrade advice
Post by: smithyvr6 on 02 April 2013, 20:24
I only paid £250 for my 8v so was thinking of doing the cam upgrade for some cheap kicks...
Title: Re: AGG 2.0 8V camshaft upgrade advice
Post by: Screech16v on 02 April 2013, 22:32
Reading this thread ,I now want an 8v  :undecided: .............. weird
Title: Re: AGG 2.0 8V camshaft upgrade advice
Post by: Khare on 02 April 2013, 22:36
Reading this thread ,I now want an 8v  :undecided: .............. weird

Go punch yourself in the left nut, go on!
Title: Re: AGG 2.0 8V camshaft upgrade advice
Post by: Screech16v on 02 April 2013, 22:42
Reading this thread ,I now want an 8v  :undecided: .............. weird

Go punch yourself in the left nut, go on!


 :grin:
Title: Re: AGG 2.0 8V camshaft upgrade advice
Post by: sharki786 on 02 April 2013, 23:06
Reading this thread ,I now want an 8v  :undecided: .............. weird

Go punch yourself in the left nut, go on!


 :grin:

Il do the honours :grin: