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Model specific boards => Golf mk6 => Topic started by: M3 SHAM on 27 February 2013, 12:43

Title: Servicing
Post by: M3 SHAM on 27 February 2013, 12:43
Hi Guys

was hoping someone could shed some light on the differences between the normal and long life servicing on the Mk6 Golf 2.0 TDI (GT 140BHP)

As I understand

Normal service = 10,000 miles or 1 year what ever comes sooner
Long life = 20,000 miles or 1 year whatever comes sooner

Is a different engine oil/filter used to achieve this? or is it just an adjustment on the OBC?

My car is currently set on normal service but a change of circumstances means that I will have done just under 20,000 miles within 12 months of the last service, I would expect that the service light would flash up after 6 months.  Would there be any harm ignoring it and servicing it when it has been 12 months since the last service? (car would have covered 18,000 - 19,000 miles at this point?)

Thanks
Title: Re: Servicing
Post by: Mr GTD on 27 February 2013, 14:05
If the light comes on I personally wudnt ignore it for to long as its on for reason and potentially ignoring it for to long will surely do more harm than good...I think there is a time limit in which you have to have had the service done from when the light appears...I'm sure someone can elaborate on this..?
Title: Re: Servicing
Post by: M3 SHAM on 27 February 2013, 14:11
If the light comes on I personally wudnt ignore it for to long as its on for reason and potentially ignoring it for to long will surely do more harm than good...I think there is a time limit in which you have to have had the service done from when the light appears...I'm sure someone can elaborate on this..?

These are my concerns also, i think i need to try and find out if there are actually any differences between a normal service and a long-life service?
Title: Re: Servicing
Post by: Mr GTD on 27 February 2013, 14:15
Don't know if you've read servicing (http://www.volkswagen.co.uk/owners/servicing/regimes) this is what VW say on the matter...
Title: Re: Servicing
Post by: Buck on 27 February 2013, 19:46
Further to the above, my understanding is that the oil for long life is different to the fixed 10k one.
Title: Re: Servicing
Post by: Jimmymature on 27 February 2013, 20:51
Further to the above, my understanding is that the oil for long life is different to the fixed 10k one.

I thought the opposite, I remember reading ages ago that it's the same oil that is used.


Jim
Title: Re: Servicing
Post by: SRGTD on 27 February 2013, 22:31
If you're on the time and distance servicing regime, then as you've said, the service interval is 10,000 miles or 12 months, whichever occurs first. If your car's under warranty, I wouldn't risk running up to 18,000 - 19,000 in 12 months under 'time and distance' before you get your car serviced; if you need any work done under warranty, you're just giving VW a reason to not carry out warranty repairs and / or void your warranty on the basis that the vehicle hasn't been serviced in accordance with VW's requirements, so technically you'd be in breach of the warranty conditions - see the copy of the warranty servicing requirements below from VW's website.

You can have the service regime changed to long life from time and distance, when you get it serviced.

Servicing
Your vehicle should be serviced in accordance with the manufacturer's recommendations. Any damage to or defect in the vehicle caused by poor or insufficient servicing will not be remedied under the vehicle's warranty. Please ensure that you maintain sufficient records to enable our Authorised Network to confirm that the vehicle has been appropriately serviced. In any event, please ensure that the service schedule booklet in your vehicle is stamped by the business carrying out the service work.
Title: Re: Servicing
Post by: M3 SHAM on 28 February 2013, 14:04
If you're on the time and distance servicing regime, then as you've said, the service interval is 10,000 miles or 12 months, whichever occurs first. If your car's under warranty, I wouldn't risk running up to 18,000 - 19,000 in 12 months under 'time and distance' before you get your car serviced; if you need any work done under warranty, you're just giving VW a reason to not carry out warranty repairs and / or void your warranty on the basis that the vehicle hasn't been serviced in accordance with VW's requirements, so technically you'd be in breach of the warranty conditions - see the copy of the warranty servicing requirements below from VW's website.

You can have the service regime changed to long life from time and distance, when you get it serviced.

Servicing
Your vehicle should be serviced in accordance with the manufacturer's recommendations. Any damage to or defect in the vehicle caused by poor or insufficient servicing will not be remedied under the vehicle's warranty. Please ensure that you maintain sufficient records to enable our Authorised Network to confirm that the vehicle has been appropriately serviced. In any event, please ensure that the service schedule booklet in your vehicle is stamped by the business carrying out the service work.


Car is 2009 so is out of warranty so nothing to worry about on that front.

From reading in to this it just seems that I may be paying for a service when it may not necesserilly be required.  If the same oil and filters is used irrespective of wether it is a 'fixed' service or 'long life' what difference does a a flashing notification on start up actually make apart from being a little annoying?  I mean it does not appear to change anything in the engine irrespective of the setting so what difference does it actually make?

When I do service it which will proberbly be at a reputable indy if it is showing as say 18,000 miles since last service then the service histroy would just appear to look as if the car was set to 'long life'

Title: Re: Servicing
Post by: Buck on 28 February 2013, 14:36
Further to the above, my understanding is that the oil for long life is different to the fixed 10k one.

I thought the opposite, I remember reading ages ago that it's the same oil that is used.


Jim

You might be right Jim but when I asked at my VW Dealer what the difference was, he said the oil they use for the long life is a higher spec to take into account the longer time period/mileage?

It might have been bull?
Title: Re: Servicing
Post by: M3 SHAM on 28 February 2013, 15:40
Further to the above, my understanding is that the oil for long life is different to the fixed 10k one.

I thought the opposite, I remember reading ages ago that it's the same oil that is used.


Jim

You might be right Jim but when I asked at my VW Dealer what the difference was, he said the oil they use for the long life is a higher spec to take into account the longer time period/mileage?

It might have been bull?

Dont know if this differs depending on dealers but I have spoke with service desk at Nottingham Volkswagen who have confirmed they use the same oil irrespective of service types
Title: Re: Servicing
Post by: Booth11 on 28 February 2013, 17:35
Seems to be a lot of conflicting advice out there. 

I've also read elsewhere that they now use Longlife for both types of service.

However, I went into dealers recently to buy some oil (car is 62 reg) and was that told to get Longlife.  This is despite the fact it will be on time/distance service schedule (once I hit 10k miles).  When I questioned this, they said that it would have had Longlife put in at factory and so to carry on with that, but, that it would be changed over to the time/distance oil at the first service.   
Title: Re: Servicing
Post by: M3 SHAM on 01 March 2013, 13:59
Has anyone had any experience of a non-Long life oil being used on a 'time and distance' service at the dealers and if so can you specify which oil it was?