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Model specific boards => Golf mk3 => Topic started by: 67buggers on 19 February 2013, 13:48

Title: need help making a decision
Post by: 67buggers on 19 February 2013, 13:48
Need opinions......i have been offered a dragon green 8v gti for £200...ive looked at it and its solid but has no mot or tax and has been stood for a while....i know it needs a breather pipe as its split and car is running like sh!t and either a ball joibt or a track rod end and 4 tyres but other than that its all good.

My issue is im mega poor so literally have the 200 ti buy it then would beed to sit on it till pay day.

I currently have a 16v anniversary with loads done to it but i just dont use it, twice a week if im lucky

Do i:

A buy it mot it and sell it
B buy it and break it
C buy it mot it and keep it but swap all my extras from my 16v anniversary over and sell the anniversary as a standard car.
Title: Re: need help making a decision
Post by: Metallix on 19 February 2013, 13:56
Sounds like a shed.  You will probably find more defects after you buy it.

It won't pass an MOT as it is now anyways without spending £££

Who wants to buy bits off a Mk3 8v?   Not a big money maker as a breaker.
Title: Re: need help making a decision
Post by: murraymint on 19 February 2013, 14:51
Stick with the anni and forget about the gti, your anni is worth way more. Keep the money or spend it on yours
Title: Re: need help making a decision
Post by: GOLF-MK3-GTI on 19 February 2013, 14:52
Stick with the anni and forget about the gti, your anni is worth way more. Keep the money or spend it on yours

Couldn't have said it any better.  :wink:
Title: Re: need help making a decision
Post by: tweed on 19 February 2013, 15:03
If I thought I could make a profit then I woul buy it.
Part worn tyres and the rest of it including tax prob cost me between £200 and £300

How much is the gti worth once running? How many miles has it done?

If you could sell it for £800 and do the work cheep then thats what I would do.

I'm looking at non running rx8's to rebuild and sell on  :wink:
Title: Re: need help making a decision
Post by: Callum_K on 19 February 2013, 15:08
If its solid with good bodywork I would buy it and do it up to sell.
Title: Re: need help making a decision
Post by: matty james on 19 February 2013, 15:39
unless they are perfect in every way mk3 8vs arnt worth much, so leave it alone its not worth the hassle. and as for rx8`s there 1oos of non runners with low milage kicking about ,just look on autotrader. my pal has 1, they look nice but are aload of rubbish and they go 4 peanuts even if they are runners. no body wants them because they cost a fortune in petrol and being a wankle engine they need a specialist to fix them, so stay away from em m8. there cheap for a reason ~ there rubbish :smiley:
Title: Re: need help making a decision
Post by: boneybradley on 19 February 2013, 15:50
I am looking at buying some cheaper mk3's to break... I recon £200 is the max for an 8v (without m.o.t) and £350 for a 16v

concept's are worth no more than a std 8v (although a black car may be worth a little more)
anni's are worth £450 if it hasn't being stripped of any parts (wheels etc)

If it's local to me, I could be interested!
Title: Re: need help making a decision
Post by: Leroy on 19 February 2013, 15:56
Buy it, break it and spend any money you make on your anni. Alot more desirable.
Title: Re: need help making a decision
Post by: tweed on 19 February 2013, 15:58
you are joking right?

do you know how the engine works? So simple and can be stripped down, take engine in the house (they're that light and small) replace apex seals, that's a rebuild. Then put it back in.

people think they are normal petrol engines and f**k them by letting it get low on oil and burning the seals out.

they are so cheep to rebuild if you do it yourself. Its people like you that don't now how it works and listen to the bullsh!t from so called specialist that can charge a fortune.

they are bad on short runs and can flood or build up carbon.

great engines if you know how to look after them.
Title: Re: need help making a decision
Post by: Gavv8 on 19 February 2013, 16:03
If its a 3 door buy it and sell me the passenger door.. :smiley:
Title: Re: need help making a decision
Post by: tweed on 19 February 2013, 16:10
unless they are perfect in every way mk3 8vs arnt worth much, so leave it alone its not worth the hassle. and as for rx8`s there 1oos of non runners with low milage kicking about ,just look on autotrader. my pal has 1, they look nice but are aload of rubbish and they go 4 peanuts even if they are runners. no body wants them because they cost a fortune in petrol and being a wankle engine they need a specialist to fix them, so stay away from em m8. there cheap for a reason ~ there rubbish :smiley:

watch these guys strip a engine in 7 minutes. There going slow too. Could be done in 3 minutes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WSmcPm7TLM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WSmcPm7TLM)

clean it up, fit new apex seals and gaskets then put it back together. Job done!
like I said know how to look after them and they are great. 230bhp from a 1.3 is amazing.
the 2.8 vr6 only has 174bhp and you can't pick that up and take it in your house and strip it down in 3 mins.  :wink:
Title: Re: need help making a decision
Post by: 67buggers on 19 February 2013, 18:00
It's a 5 door and in really good condition body work wise ....no rot in usual places. Im only looking cause I'm in a bit of a hole money wise and could do with making a few £££, just thought I could mot this and stick it on some coilovers and peperpots for around the £500 mark and maybe sell mine as it sits for £1200 would sort me out and I'd still have a decent looking golf for summer. I know the anni is rarer etc but I ain't that bothered ATM  ....having said all that....selling it would probably be a task itself, nothing seems to be selling from what I've seen
Title: Re: need help making a decision
Post by: Gavv8 on 19 February 2013, 18:34
Much as i love the old mk3 i don't think there's much money to made from them at the moment, i'd keep the anni which is always going to be worth a bit more than a standard one.
Maybe worth going for it if the shell is absolutely mint, dirt cheap and you've got a project in mind.
Title: Re: need help making a decision
Post by: Leroy on 19 February 2013, 18:36
You'll regret selling your anni  :whistle:
Title: Re: need help making a decision
Post by: CJA321 on 19 February 2013, 19:36
unless they are perfect in every way mk3 8vs arnt worth much, so leave it alone its not worth the hassle. and as for rx8`s there 1oos of non runners with low milage kicking about ,just look on autotrader. my pal has 1, they look nice but are aload of rubbish and they go 4 peanuts even if they are runners. no body wants them because they cost a fortune in petrol and being a wankle engine they need a specialist to fix them, so stay away from em m8. there cheap for a reason ~ there rubbish :smiley:

watch these guys strip a engine in 7 minutes. There going slow too. Could be done in 3 minutes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WSmcPm7TLM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WSmcPm7TLM)

clean it up, fit new apex seals and gaskets then put it back together. Job done!
like I said know how to look after them and they are great. 230bhp from a 1.3 is amazing.
the 2.8 vr6 only has 174bhp and you can't pick that up and take it in your house and strip it down in 3 mins.  :wink:

Yes true.... But they are still total bollox. Cost mega mega money to run, just drink fuel. And now you really do strughle to get decent money even for running ones. Reason there cheap and theres are reason that breed of engine hasnt become popular with any manufacturers.

As per your golf, id keep the Anni for sure
Title: Re: need help making a decision
Post by: whileoceanasleeps on 19 February 2013, 19:45
I'd keep the anni mate.. I broke a dragon green 8v hoping to make a fair bit but I only made prob £250 in all. tbf I swapped some bits for my current motor but it was a bit of a pita. my 2 cents
Title: Re: need help making a decision
Post by: JC on 19 February 2013, 19:51
how long has it been stood - once recommissioned is when issues arise  :whistle:

Spank the money into the Anni - sounds like too much of a risk espeically when moneys tight  :wink:
Title: Re: need help making a decision
Post by: 67buggers on 19 February 2013, 20:14
Decision made not getting it....to much of a risk!
Title: Re: need help making a decision
Post by: boneybradley on 19 February 2013, 20:20
Decision made not getting it....to much of a risk!

if you were close to me, I would of bid on it to break  :smiley:
Title: Re: need help making a decision
Post by: tweed on 19 February 2013, 21:27
Good choice  :cool:
Title: Re: need help making a decision
Post by: matty james on 20 February 2013, 11:03
ask yourself the question why rx8`s are so cheap and why there are so many for sale and why there are so many non runners for sale too. granted they look quite a nice car but thats it. no body can afford to put petrol in em and they are very unreliable,hence so many non runners on autotrader for example.
Title: Re: need help making a decision
Post by: tweed on 20 February 2013, 11:23
ask yourself the question why rx8`s are so cheap and why there are so many for sale and why there are so many non runners for sale too. granted they look quite a nice car but thats it. no body can afford to put petrol in em and they are very unreliable,hence so many non runners on autotrader for example.

Just like the mk3 golf  :wink:
Title: Re: need help making a decision
Post by: Gavv8 on 20 February 2013, 11:46
ask yourself the question why rx8`s are so cheap and why there are so many for sale and why there are so many non runners for sale too. granted they look quite a nice car but thats it. no body can afford to put petrol in em and they are very unreliable,hence so many non runners on autotrader for example.

Just like the mk3 golf  :wink:
Apart from the unreliability.
Title: Re: need help making a decision
Post by: tweed on 20 February 2013, 11:52
ask yourself the question why rx8`s are so cheap and why there are so many for sale and why there are so many non runners for sale too. granted they look quite a nice car but thats it. no body can afford to put petrol in em and they are very unreliable,hence so many non runners on autotrader for example.

Just like the mk3 golf  :wink:
Apart from the unreliability.

You sure? I'm bored of people saying my car keeps stalling and running rough and lumpy. Loads for sale for spares and repairs.

At least with the mazda you got something to put a engine into. The mk3 golf engine is placed in a rusty ship  :grin:
Title: Re: need help making a decision
Post by: Metallix on 20 February 2013, 13:18
The engines are fine.

Sensors & hoses on high mileage cars are weak points, but then that is true for many cars.

The 2L 8v, 2L 16v & 2.8 12v are pretty tough, the ABF being especially good.
Title: Re: need help making a decision
Post by: Gavv8 on 20 February 2013, 14:05
ask yourself the question why rx8`s are so cheap and why there are so many for sale and why there are so many non runners for sale too. granted they look quite a nice car but thats it. no body can afford to put petrol in em and they are very unreliable,hence so many non runners on autotrader for example.

Just like the mk3 golf  :wink:
Apart from the unreliability.

You sure? I'm bored of people saying my car keeps stalling and running rough and lumpy. Loads for sale for spares and repairs.

At least with the mazda you got something to put a engine into. The mk3 golf engine is placed in a rusty ship  :grin:
Mazda's rust just the same as VW's and the wankel rotary is one of the most unreliable engines ever commited to metal.
Title: Re: need help making a decision
Post by: tweed on 20 February 2013, 14:54
My pond is fall of fish  :whistle:  :grin:
Title: Re: need help making a decision
Post by: Gavv8 on 20 February 2013, 15:40
Tweed..you used to talk a lot of sense..what the hell happened?? :rolleyes:
Title: Re: need help making a decision
Post by: GOLF-MK3-GTI on 20 February 2013, 15:42
Tweed..you used to talk a lot of sense..what the hell happened?? :rolleyes:

 :grin: :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: need help making a decision
Post by: tweed on 20 February 2013, 16:20
Working weekends. Getting up at 5.00am getting home at 4.30pm then getting picked up at 5.30pm to work till midnight.

It's very clear I'm not getting enough sleep.  :grin:
Title: Re: need help making a decision
Post by: Gavv8 on 20 February 2013, 16:37
 :grin: Get some sleep buddy...
Title: Re: need help making a decision
Post by: tweed on 20 February 2013, 16:48
Ill have a shower and see if I can get 10 mins  :grin:
Title: Re: need help making a decision
Post by: mrsaunders on 20 February 2013, 18:30
Working weekends. Getting up at 5.00am getting home at 4.30pm then getting picked up at 5.30pm to work till midnight.

It's very clear I'm not getting enough sleep.  :grin:

f**k that!
Title: Re: need help making a decision
Post by: tweed on 20 February 2013, 18:51
Working weekends. Getting up at 5.00am getting home at 4.30pm then getting picked up at 5.30pm to work till midnight.

It's very clear I'm not getting enough sleep.  :grin:

f**k that!

You wouldn't be saying that if you knew how much I was getting