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Model specific boards => Golf mk4 => Topic started by: Bellend on 31 January 2013, 18:16

Title: 2.8 4motions. How bad are they?
Post by: Bellend on 31 January 2013, 18:16
So with me loving the SDI due to economy etc and pure abusing cheapness, I want to keep it as the family sh!tter.

However, it's got no carpet is pretty uncomfortable and nasty.

So I've seen some absolute bargain 4 motions. Talking like grands and under! I'm going to be needing to transoort my mum to London soon for treatment so will be back and forward etc and the MK4 is just uncomfortable and loud etc.

What sort of MPG do they get on a run, are they half pokey? I fully enjoyed my girlfriends Ka the other day and it felt like a Ferrari just to give an idea.

Just looking for something thqt will pull on the motorway and be comfortable.

Cheers.
Title: Re: 2.8 4motions. How bad are they?
Post by: Chris#101 on 31 January 2013, 18:34
Id be enquiring more about why they are bargains  :wink:
Title: Re: 2.8 4motions. How bad are they?
Post by: Bellend on 31 January 2013, 18:42
Id be enquiring more about why they are bargains  :wink:

Assuming fuel plus insurance.  Have to admit 200 quid more and I could insure an R32.

If they're terrible on fuel I'll just spend the money on an interior wheels and suspension on the SDI.
Title: Re: 2.8 4motions. How bad are they?
Post by: damien010685 on 31 January 2013, 18:53
There is nothing wrong with a 4 mo mate fuel is not much worse than a 1.8t and it depends on your driving insurance maybe only a couple hundred more but u won't find an r32 as cheap obviously... If the 4mo is mega cheap I would be checking mileage and if chains have been done and the haldex has been looked after!! Very underrated cars love mine to bits!!
Title: Re: 2.8 4motions. How bad are they?
Post by: Bellend on 31 January 2013, 19:41
Okay cheers guys.

Just throwing ideas around really. Thinkong buy a cheaper one and use it then get rid make a few quid on it.

Need something quicker and more comfortable than this SDI!
Title: Re: 2.8 4motions. How bad are they?
Post by: barrym381 on 31 January 2013, 22:37
So with me loving the SDI due to economy etc and pure abusing cheapness, I want to keep it as the family sh!tter.

However, it's got no carpet is pretty uncomfortable and nasty.

So I've seen some absolute bargain 4 motions. Talking like grands and under! I'm going to be needing to transoort my mum to London soon for treatment so will be back and forward etc and the MK4 is just uncomfortable and loud etc.

What sort of MPG do they get on a run, are they half pokey? I fully enjoyed my girlfriends Ka the other day and it felt like a Ferrari just to give an idea.

Just looking for something thqt will pull on the motorway and be comfortable.

Cheers.
your not man enough for a 4mo  :grin:
Title: Re: 2.8 4motions. How bad are they?
Post by: Bellend on 31 January 2013, 23:08
Was having a look at one today, only when the MOT history didn't match I didn't pursue it any further!

So tempting as seem to have so many toys for the money.
Title: Re: 2.8 4motions. How bad are they?
Post by: barrym381 on 31 January 2013, 23:50
Was having a look at one today, only when the MOT history didn't match I didn't pursue it any further!

So tempting as seem to have so many toys for the money.
was only a few hours ago you asked about them  :whistle:
Title: Re: 2.8 4motions. How bad are they?
Post by: Bellend on 01 February 2013, 10:40
Amazing how you can advertise cars on the internet nowadays!
Title: Re: 2.8 4motions. How bad are they?
Post by: navmk4gti on 01 February 2013, 12:42
There is nothing wrong with a 4 mo mate fuel is not much worse than a 1.8t and it depends on your driving insurance maybe only a couple hundred more but u won't find an r32 as cheap obviously... If the 4mo is mega cheap I would be checking mileage and if chains have been done and the haldex has been looked after!! Very underrated cars love mine to bits!!

+1 i come from a mapped 1.8t mk4 and dont notice much fuel difference be honest. 4mo us lot more fun and love mine too. Not had it long tho. they are heavy cars but power is thrown out well. As said have good look around if one is going for mega cheap saying thy the 1.8t ans 4mos seem to have come down in price a lot :smiley:
Title: Re: 2.8 4motions. How bad are they?
Post by: BarryMKIV on 01 February 2013, 14:46
I've only ever driven one 2.8 4MO, and I didn't find it as quick or as fun to drive as my 1.8T. The only 2.8 that ever impressed me was charged and it had a non res Milltek, now that was nice.

I've never even found .:R32s that much fun to drive, although the sound really makes up for the slight lack of power  :smiley:
Title: Re: 2.8 4motions. How bad are they?
Post by: damien010685 on 01 February 2013, 15:48
Hmmm can't say I agree I have driven both and apart from suspension I preferred the 4mo... My friend has an anni and the 4mo is faster not by much I will add
Title: Re: 2.8 4motions. How bad are they?
Post by: sveed1.8T on 01 February 2013, 18:31
What's the tax like on a 4mo?
Title: Re: 2.8 4motions. How bad are they?
Post by: navmk4gti on 01 February 2013, 18:58
270 ish for the year :lipsrsealed: :grin:
Title: Re: 2.8 4motions. How bad are they?
Post by: Live in Hope on 01 February 2013, 19:19
I have a 4motion and love it! fuel is not great on short runs but ok on long runs but if fuel worries you sticcccck with the oil burner! that's why my family drive is a 2.0 16valve Touran :smiley: the v6 feel sluggish at time because the engine is smooth and does it's stuff effortlessly! a few tweaks makes them a serious motor for not a lot of cash.
Title: Re: 2.8 4motions. How bad are they?
Post by: damien010685 on 01 February 2013, 19:45
Map it and its even smoother with better power delivery! Barry can vouch for that
Title: Re: 2.8 4motions. How bad are they?
Post by: barrym381 on 01 February 2013, 21:21
Map it and its even smoother with better power delivery! Barry can vouch for that
yes i can  :grin: :grin: an they sound great to  :tongue:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=af_SVnDHHHA
Title: Re: 2.8 4motions. How bad are they?
Post by: sveed1.8T on 02 February 2013, 01:43
270 ish for the year :lipsrsealed: :grin:
Ouch!! :lipsrsealed:
Title: Re: 2.8 4motions. How bad are they?
Post by: brett on 02 February 2013, 12:41
tax depends on what year it is ,as it went up after 2001 ,but mines a x reg (2000) and i pay the same price in tax as i did with the mk3 8v.iirc it was £123 for 6 months
does a map make that much difference as someone said to me they didnt on the 4mo ?
Title: Re: 2.8 4motions. How bad are they?
Post by: damien010685 on 02 February 2013, 13:52
From what i have read with other v6 build threads and In my friends 4mo it feels better to drive power delivery is smoother most people only care about bhp which is why they say it doesn't make a huge difference and they are right u won't see much gains but for me the drive after was worth it it will be getting remapped once I decat it
Title: Re: 2.8 4motions. How bad are they?
Post by: brett on 02 February 2013, 18:14
cheers mate,will have a look into it as not fussed about power gains ,and if it makes the delivery even smoother ,sounds good to me
Title: Re: 2.8 4motions. How bad are they?
Post by: barrym381 on 03 February 2013, 15:00
They are much better with a map  :evil:
Title: Re: 2.8 4motions. How bad are they?
Post by: tdi_blu on 03 February 2013, 15:08
Slightly off topic but you mentioned tax price on a 4 motion I happened to see a mk5 R32 parked up yesterday and the tax on that thing was £445  :laugh:
Title: Re: 2.8 4motions. How bad are they?
Post by: barrym381 on 03 February 2013, 15:12
Slightly off topic but you mentioned tax price on a 4 motion I happened to see a mk5 R32 parked up yesterday and the tax on that thing was £445  :laugh:
was it an 06 sure thats when they changed
Title: Re: 2.8 4motions. How bad are they?
Post by: tdi_blu on 03 February 2013, 15:48
Think thats a pretty steap tax price just for a R32 fair enough if its a Porsche or some other high performance car..
Title: Re: 2.8 4motions. How bad are they?
Post by: brett on 03 February 2013, 16:20
all to do with it being 4wd ,the feckers :angry:  ,went up first in 2001 and then even more in 2005 iirc
will be having a look int a map me thinks lol
Title: Re: 2.8 4motions. How bad are they?
Post by: MattyV6 on 04 February 2013, 14:47
Any mk5 R32 registered between 18/11/05 - 23/03/06 is £270 for 12 months. Any Mk5 r32's registered after 23/03/06 are £475 for 12 months tax.

All mk4 R32 / 4 motions are £270 (2012) / £290 (2013)

Never driven a 4 motion but on paper they seem a big lump of a car for 200bhp. If i was to own one i would stick a set of coilovers on and upgrade the anti roll bars to stiffen it up a little maybe.
Title: Re: 2.8 4motions. How bad are they?
Post by: leigh_harty on 04 February 2013, 17:37
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZ4ZZ0dwJfA

Thats enough to sway a man away from his diesel humble steed  :grin:

Skip to 40secs after the gay music
Title: Re: 2.8 4motions. How bad are they?
Post by: MattyV6 on 05 February 2013, 21:29
I know this isnt a 4 motion but geeeeeeeeezzzzzzzzz this EIP box sounds incredible  :smiley: :evil:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5HhkeQDVjU