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Model specific boards => Golf mk4 => Topic started by: pickles on 21 January 2013, 23:52
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is it adviseable to retain the stock charge pipe when doing the wellycooler so as to retain the original take offs for the N75 and DV valves.
cant see any clear explanation of how the valves are connected after the install apart from the mentioning of taps n stuff. any info appreciated :)
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depends which way you want to do it, the stock charge pipe is a smaller diameter than the rest of the wellycooler setup, I went the K04 charge pipe way but this also involves changing the inlet mani.
I have seen people use a straight piece of tube and getting the takeoffs welder on to that
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depends which way you want to do it, the stock charge pipe is a smaller diameter than the rest of the wellycooler setup, I went the K04 charge pipe way but this also involves changing the inlet mani.
I have seen people use a straight piece of tube and getting the takeoffs welder on to that
wana do the welly cooler setup keeping the inlet manifold in the same orientation, just baffled a to what happens to the N75 and DVs, do i need to purchase a seperate pipe with take offs which is not shown in any of the install threads, dont wana fart about drilling, might just TOYO KIT it.
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Im interested to see how your k03 will perform with the wellycooler and associated 2.5" piping.
But looking at your sig you'll be going hybrid.
I have no plans to go above k03s, if at all. So I may go with 2.25" piping and intercooler inlet/outlet.
If so I wil be using the OE charge pipe. Or maybe even a 1.8t mk2 Ibiza charge pipe.
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Im interested to see how your k03 will perform with the wellycooler and associated 2.5" piping.
But looking at your sig you'll be going hybrid.
I have no plans to go above k03s, if at all. So I may go with 2.25" piping and intercooler inlet/outlet.
If so I wil be using the OE charge pipe. Or maybe even a 1.8t mk2 Ibiza charge pipe.
plans change all the time lol, notime to go hybrid :laugh:, got a k03s en route so gna whack that on.
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So will the welly and piping be too big?
I can only muster a measly 16psi of boost :grin:
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what the 2.5 or 2.25, il be going 2.5.
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So will the welly and piping be too big?
I can only muster a measly 16psi of boost :grin:
im running a K03 and wellycooler on mine with 2.5" piping and its fine, there is a small amount of lag, but nothing a K03s and stage 2 wont sort out :cool:
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the 'wellycooler' and 2.5'' pipes will be fine on a ko3S.
DV and N75 are down to you really mate, the N75 is dead easy, just using a 6mm brass hose tail with a 1.8th thread drilled and tapped into a pipe and sealed up with chemical metal. the dv take off at 25mm is a bit harder, you can either use a cold side relocation kit, or get someone to weld on a 25mm stub for you.
I've seen people use the original charge pipe turned round and joined with a straight coupler to face up and forward to amtch the wellycooler pipework, I think the stock charge pipe is 54mm, and being directly after the 2'' turbo outlet it shouldn't be a big problem using it for that short length.
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the 'wellycooler' and 2.5'' pipes will be fine on a ko3S.
DV and N75 are down to you really mate, the N75 is dead easy, just using a 6mm brass hose tail with a 1.8th thread drilled and tapped into a pipe and sealed up with chemical metal. the dv take off at 25mm is a bit harder, you can either use a cold side relocation kit, or get someone to weld on a 25mm stub for you.
I've seen people use the original charge pipe turned round and joined with a straight coupler to face up and forward to amtch the wellycooler pipework, I think the stock charge pipe is 54mm, and being directly after the 2'' turbo outlet it shouldn't be a big problem using it for that short length.
exactly what i was after m8,thanks alot.
alot of the ebay kits iv seen do a pipe with th 25mm stub, cant these be sourced seperate
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I had my take offs welded
Drilled 2 holes close then filed hem out to a very tight fit
(http://i1092.photobucket.com/albums/i408/rioracer/24D6D362-8A78-44D4-85B6-3F5FF64A5061-2389-0000016CE0776DF2.jpg)
(http://i1092.photobucket.com/albums/i408/rioracer/FAB814BD-3789-45C9-AF79-DF81B2D05399-755-00000065208CAF98.jpg)
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I had my take offs welded
Drilled 2 holes close then filed hem out to a very tight fit
(http://i1092.photobucket.com/albums/i408/rioracer/24D6D362-8A78-44D4-85B6-3F5FF64A5061-2389-0000016CE0776DF2.jpg)
(http://i1092.photobucket.com/albums/i408/rioracer/FAB814BD-3789-45C9-AF79-DF81B2D05399-755-00000065208CAF98.jpg)
now thats exactly what im on about, is that a 63mm 45 degree bend. i take it any decent welding place should be able to kknock this up eh?
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Yeah and a 8mm connector and a 25mm connector just gotta find somewhere that does alloy welding
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Very smart Rio, lovely work.
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You say he's very smart but when your going to meet him for the first time he sends an interesting text don't ya buddy
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I didn't say Rio was smart, I said the welding was :whistle:
You've got me worried now though, haha, should we all avoid Surrey?
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I didn't say Rio was smart, I said the welding was :whistle:
You've got me worried now though, haha, should we all avoid Surrey?
Nah he's sound fella he's been nothing but a great help for me :grin:
Personally I would stay away from basingstoke I think it is so I don't get chopped by an a3 :whistle:
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Definitely avoid basingstoke. Especially the race track, sorry, Ring Road at night.
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Naughty you saying that how do you know I ain't a policey man :grin:
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Naughty you saying that how do you know I ain't a policey man :grin:
You may well be officer, in which case, go forth and arrest. You'll never catch me!
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*because I'll be on my sofa enjoying a beer, leaving the chavs to it! :laugh:
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My username kinda gives away I ain't lol
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You say he's very smart but when your going to meet him for the first time he sends an interesting text don't ya buddy
dont know what your talking about :lipsrsealed: :whistle:
Very smart Rio, lovely work.
cheers but it was chris#101 that told me to do it like this so i'm not taking the credit for it :wink:
still, all this work done and i dont even know if it runs yet......(still waiting for the poxy exhaust and batt is dead :sad: )
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(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y15/andy905/ASH%20Products/AP-ALLOY-TPIECE.jpg)
This is what i was after :) then just use a quicktap for the N75
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Mine was the same as rio's he stole the idea frm me!! I'd avoid rio! Sent me funky texts to :whistle:
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Your makin me sound like I have my number in public toilets......or that I text those numbers..... Which I defiantly don't do :rolleyes: :lipsrsealed:
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just checkin the outlet size on the k03s is about 50mm am i right, so a 63-51mm reducer off the turbo into the alloy T-piece and then into the rest of the pipework.
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Your makin me sound like I have my number in public toilets......or that I text those numbers..... Which I defiantly don't do :rolleyes: :lipsrsealed:
Keep digging!! Haha :laugh:
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just checkin the outlet size on the k03s is about 50mm am i right, so a 63-51mm reducer off the turbo into the alloy T-piece and then into the rest of the pipework.
I think that'd make the whole lot too high. You'd have to find somewhere else to splice it in.
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Rio getting abuse thread this should be changed to lol
Rio by the time you get your car sorted the MK 8 Will be out :tongue:
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just checkin the outlet size on the k03s is about 50mm am i right, so a 63-51mm reducer off the turbo into the alloy T-piece and then into the rest of the pipework.
I think that'd make the whole lot too high. You'd have to find somewhere else to splice it in.
a suck it and see job :laugh:
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Rio getting abuse thread this should be changed to lol
Rio by the time you get your car sorted the MK 8 Will be out :tongue:
dont i know it!!!
just checkin the outlet size on the k03s is about 50mm am i right, so a 63-51mm reducer off the turbo into the alloy T-piece and then into the rest of the pipework.
I think that'd make the whole lot too high. You'd have to find somewhere else to splice it in.
as prawny says it will be to high!! you would need to put the elbow straight onto the reducer off the turbo then cut the leg of the bend in half and put it into there (where it would be running across the engine), that would work
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Rio getting abuse thread this should be changed to lol
Rio by the time you get your car sorted the MK 8 Will be out :tongue:
dont i know it!!!
just checkin the outlet size on the k03s is about 50mm am i right, so a 63-51mm reducer off the turbo into the alloy T-piece and then into the rest of the pipework.
I think that'd make the whole lot too high. You'd have to find somewhere else to splice it in.
as prawny says it will be to high!! you would need to put the elbow straight onto the reducer off the turbo then cut the leg of the bend in half and put it into there (where it would be running across the engine), that would work
cheers bud,
just thinking tho, the 63mm alloy joiner used to connect the turbo hose to charge pipe , is this not the same as the alloy T piece but without the stub ?, couldnt i just trim a bit off the silicon hose in this pic to get it to sit futher down.
(http://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt26/redbull2525/9FF8D549-9AF9-4035-B5CA-B3B6CE313A80-378-00000054C9A54B94.jpg)
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Will post up some pics of the pipe work shortly gonna go over to where is stored in a bit to trial fit bumper
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(http://i1092.photobucket.com/albums/i408/rioracer/DEF7F4BE-AE7C-4D2D-952B-66B189F686E8-4263-000002955D34EA72.jpg)
The reducer goes to just above the jubilee clip so toy would have to cut it into the horizontal part
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Just seen your crash on YouTube prawn I think it's definitely stay away from Basingstoke lol sorry to high jack the thread again
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(http://i1092.photobucket.com/albums/i408/rioracer/DEF7F4BE-AE7C-4D2D-952B-66B189F686E8-4263-000002955D34EA72.jpg)
The reducer goes to just above the jubilee clip so toy would have to cut it into the horizontal part
now you dont get much clearer than that, thanks a bunch :)
was it a 63-51 reducer used can you remember.
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taken from mu build thread
So 'The Beast' is on and all piped up finally!!!
so here is the list of what was used...
1x 45mm straight silicone (100mm)
1x 45 x 63mm alloy reducer
2x 63mm silicone bend
1x 63mm alloy 45* bend
1x 8mm alloy joiner (welded onto 45* for n75)
1x 25mm alloy joiner (welded onto 45* for d/v)
1x 63mm 45* silicone bend
1x 63mm straight alloy (100mm long)
1x 63mm alloy bend
1x 76 x 63mm silicone red. bend
1x 76 x 63 silicone 45* red. bend
1x 63mm straight alloy (200mm long)
1x 63mm 135* silicone bend
1x 63mm forge MAP pipe (or 100mm straight alloy)
2x 45 x 60mm s/steel clamps
2x 70 x 90mm s/steel clamps
12x 60 x 80mm s/steel clamps
1x Front mount intercooler TYPE B 600x300x76MM
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sorry for all the questions m8 but 45mm :huh:
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(http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff366/pickles1690/turbochargepipefmic_zpsf6c7f25f.jpg)
cut in here perhaps ?
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45mm, Did try a 51mm (or 52) bu it was baggy and I didn't think it would seal nice so I opted for the smaller size, some heating and it went on!!!
The reducer internal size was also the same size as the internal size of the trubo outlet so there is no restriction
Yeah cut in there mate I'd say