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Model specific boards => Golf mk6 => Topic started by: Fiishbmx on 11 January 2013, 23:40
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Picked up My new mk6 gti today, had a look under the hood today, took the engine cover off, and the actual engine looks very diffrent to the mk5 gti 2.0tfsi, for example, the pcv looks diffrent? the fuel pump is in diffrent position?
is there alot of diffrence to the engines?
cheers steve x
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Picked up My new mk6 gti today, had a look under the hood today, took the engine cover off, and the actual engine looks very diffrent to the mk5 gti 2.0tfsi, for example, the pcv looks diffrent? the fuel pump is in diffrent position?
is there alot of diffrence to the engines?
cheers steve x
Completely different engine.
HPFP wear issues sorted, timing chain instead of belt, cross bolted main bearings, stronger engine, more powerful, torquier, cleaner, more efficient, different turbo.
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Picked up My new mk6 gti today, had a look under the hood today, took the engine cover off, and the actual engine looks very diffrent to the mk5 gti 2.0tfsi, for example, the pcv looks diffrent? the fuel pump is in diffrent position?
is there alot of diffrence to the engines?
cheers steve x
Completely different engine.
HPFP wear issues sorted, timing chain instead of belt, cross bolted main bearings, stronger engine, more powerful, torquier, cleaner, more efficient, different turbo.
Do you know if these engines still get the pcv problem then??
diffrent turbo!?? what turbo they run as i thought they have a k03's on them!?? :huh:
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The EA888 engine is what's in the mk6 the turbo has an IHI rather than K03
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The EA888 engine is what's in the mk6 the turbo has an IHI rather than K03
So is the IHI turbo better than the k03s or the same or what? ha, i honestly thought they was the same as a mk5 gti...
my bad!!
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Not sure about the engine being stronger, it may be more efficient. Makes you wonder why the ED 35 used the MK5 engine ie a detuned version of the R.
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Not sure about the engine being stronger, it may be more efficient. Makes you wonder why the ED 35 used the MK5 engine ie a detuned version of the R.
Err...it is.
The Mk5 engine doesn't have cross bolted main bearings IIRC.
The EA888 is the new generation of engine...capable of far higher outputs on standard internals.
I'm guessing it wasn't viable to develop a mid-state of tune version of the EA888 for the limited run Ed35 when there was a K04 version of the Mk5 engine sitting, all developed.
I'm sure the new Mk7 R will have a bigger turbo version of the EA888 Mk6 engine....as I believe the new S3 has.
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Do you know if these engines still get the pcv problem then??
No idea, sorry.
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Do you know if these engines still get the pcv problem then??
No idea, sorry.
Yes they do sadly.
Not as commom as the mk5 as its an improved system but they are starting to crop up on some of the cars.
If you do a search for my 'oil leak' thread it explains it there.
As for the engine strength yes its stronger as I have the design info documents about the engine in them they compare them to the mk5 engine and explain why and the difference.
The ed35 used the engine it did as it was already a production engine, tooled for and already produced for the
S3 and cupra so was also type approved (a long very long and expensive process) . A simple parts bin special made sense.
The new s3 is a derivative of the ea888 but is advanced again, you can read about.that engines design on Audi.co.UK website.
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its about 10kg lighter than the old engine too
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So when the engine cover on the ed35 says TSI, thats actually incorrect and should say TFSI? Or is a weight saving exercise by dropping one letter.... :whistle:
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So when the engine cover on the ed35 says TSI, thats actually incorrect and should say TFSI? Or is a weight saving exercise by dropping one letter.... :whistle:
Let's call it a marketing exercise! :lipsrsealed:
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So when the engine cover on the ed35 says TSI, thats actually incorrect and should say TFSI? Or is a weight saving exercise by dropping one letter.... :whistle:
Let's call it a marketing exercise! :lipsrsealed:
More than likely! It can lead to a bit of confusion with the TSI 'Twincharged' variant on the 1.4.
The IHI turbo is smaller than the 'KO3S' but the TSI head flows better.
If you go onto the MK6 international forum there are loads of ko4 tuned MK6 GTI's running 350 + hp.
The TSI is supposedly cheaper to build as well, but I cant verify this.
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http://files.engineering.com/download.aspx?folder=4188e34f-2b48-49fa-9c9d-e2ed7ac676a3&file=VW.COM_2.0L_TSI_Turbo_SSP_824803.pdf
Pdf self study program about the engine.
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So the engine is stronger, however VW need to do some serious work on everything attached to it on the mark 7. Far to many problems with water pumps and oil leaks.
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So the engine is stronger, however VW need to do some serious work on everything attached to it on the mark 7. Far to many problems with water pumps and oil leaks.
Water pump
Crankcase ventilation system design
Diverter valve
Timing chain tensioner
Turbo
Alarm siren
Coil packs
DSG mecatronics unit
Dual mass flywheel
And that's just the ones I can think of at 5 in the morning lol.
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Snoopy, you are dedicated lol. Lets hope all these things are sorted on the MK7.
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I bet most are not as they did not sort alot of the mk5 issues with the mk6.
Im beginning to think VW has no real engineers anymore and only accountants and marketing men.
I can deal with most of the issues but the chain tensioner scares the crap out of me as its a new engine if it goes.
Im glad they have dropped the 1.4 TSI as its a disaster in engineering terms but then again, other models they do have had issues with Turbos and DPFs.
Mind there not the only ones BMW have had issues with timing chain tensioners on the mini as well as power steering issues, and also HPFP on the 1 series.
Other makes too have issues the Nissan GTRgearbox is a ticking timebomb waiting to happen, so most are the same nowadays its a throw away white good culture.