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Title: Drivers door not shuting
Post by: stu646 on 21 December 2012, 16:20
The other week in the cold weather, my door would not open in the morning, happened twice but since then I am now having a lot of trouble shutting the door.

When I do go to shut it , it just bounces back open. I have tried pushing the door catch down before shutting it but it still happens. Sprayed WD40 on it, still no luck

Took me 15 attempts today to shut it and soon or later I can see window braking as really having to slam the door
Title: Re: Drivers door not shuting
Post by: rio_gti on 21 December 2012, 17:02
had this with the mrs one once.... as you close it, close it with the handle pulled out (like you are opening it) and as it is slams release the handle...... weather it works for you i dont know but its worth a shot  :wink:
Title: Re: Drivers door not shuting
Post by: stu646 on 21 December 2012, 17:07
had this with the mrs one once.... as you close it, close it with the handle pulled out (like you are opening it) and as it is slams release the handle...... weather it works for you i dont know but its worth a shot  :wink:

Will give it a go mate. Is there a long term fix for it, if so how much?  :sad:
Title: Re: Drivers door not shuting
Post by: asboGTI on 21 December 2012, 18:23
i had this on a fiesta once had to replace the locking module that locks when to shut the door to hold it closed. basically scrap yard is a good place to get one
Title: Re: Drivers door not shuting
Post by: navmk4gti on 21 December 2012, 18:41
Had this TWICE on my gti. You need new module. And i would get asap. After few times it will just jam open then you wont be able to close the door :sad:
Title: Re: Drivers door not shuting
Post by: stu646 on 21 December 2012, 18:46
How much is a new module and is it easy to fit yourself?

Got to admit it is becoming harder and harder to shut the door each day
Title: Re: Drivers door not shuting
Post by: navmk4gti on 21 December 2012, 18:51
About £20-30 and no aint hard bud if you are good diy. ask around guys breaking mk4s n forum too. I think i have a module lying around but its for passenger rear so no use to u.
Title: Re: Drivers door not shuting
Post by: stu646 on 21 December 2012, 19:06
Cheers anyway

Will have a ask around the breakers forum or go to the scrapyard like suggested on here too

Thanks guys
Title: Re: Drivers door not shuting
Post by: beppe2672 on 23 December 2012, 14:13
They not too tricky to fit, but you will need an m8 spline drive bit to remove the 2 bolts holding the module in the door, don't try using a torq bit as they will round off!
Title: Re: Drivers door not shuting
Post by: scarr89 on 23 December 2012, 17:56
They not too tricky to fit, but you will need an m8 spline drive bit to remove the 2 bolts holding the module in the door, don't try using a torq bit as they will round off!

THIS! Don't go rounding nuts off  :lipsrsealed:
Title: Re: Drivers door not shuting
Post by: stu646 on 27 December 2012, 10:45
Passengers side door has now the same problem!!! I give up. Why do things go wrong when you have no money
Title: Re: Drivers door not shuting
Post by: markallen on 27 December 2012, 11:34
Keep them both shut until you have money and just use the rears  :grin: sorry mate had to say it. Mine sometimes doesn't open when you pull the handle either but the door has dropped a little.
Title: Re: Drivers door not shuting
Post by: stu646 on 27 December 2012, 12:02
I will be climbing through the boot soon!!

Last year the rear passengers side door had the problem too, we had to move the child seat to the other side due to it, yet within a month, the problem all of sudden went and the door ever since has been perfect.

Title: Re: Drivers door not shuting
Post by: stu646 on 28 December 2012, 16:15
Right, I give up.

Today, rear side passengers door has now the same problem. So in the space of a couple of weeks, I have 3 door all bouncing open each time I go to shut them.

Any ideas what the hell is happening?
Title: Re: Drivers door not shuting
Post by: GOLF-MK3-GTI on 28 December 2012, 16:27
Right, I give up.

Today, rear side passengers door has now the same problem. So in the space of a couple of weeks, I have 3 door all bouncing open each time I go to shut them.

Any ideas what the hell is happening?

Try this link, http://www.vwaudiforum.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?13433-door-wont-open-Mk4-golf

The other day i closed the door on my car and i couldnt open it from inside or outside, after fighting with it for an hour and a half, I messed about with this clip and it opened.

Try adjusting it, maybe it'll close then and it wont bounce back in your face.

The problem i had was it wouldnt open, your problem is it wont close. so try this it may work.
Title: Re: Drivers door not shuting
Post by: stu646 on 28 December 2012, 16:35
Right, I give up.

Today, rear side passengers door has now the same problem. So in the space of a couple of weeks, I have 3 door all bouncing open each time I go to shut them.

Any ideas what the hell is happening?

Try this link, http://www.vwaudiforum.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?13433-door-wont-open-Mk4-golf

The other day i closed the door on my car and i couldnt open it from inside or outside, after fighting with it for an hour and a half, I messed about with this clip and it opened.

Try adjusting it, maybe it'll close then and it wont bounce back in your face.

The problem i had was it wouldnt open, your problem is it wont close. so try this it may work.

Cheers mate, will give it a go. Going to be a pain doing it on all 3 doors!

Hopefully it will work, as just about had it with this car now
Title: Re: Drivers door not shuting
Post by: stu646 on 04 January 2013, 10:59
Did not work trying that fix

Going to have to put it in to my local garage to see if they can find the fault, very very annoying having 3 doors bounce open every time you go to shut them

Went in to my VW dealership to ask why all 3 doors would suddenly fail within a couple of weeks, he had no idea but suggested I might need 3 new locks at a great price of £690!!! Yeah, wait there, just book it in  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Drivers door not shuting
Post by: asboGTI on 04 January 2013, 17:23
Go to a breakers yard or scrap yard and get 3 locking mechanisms for that bit of the door
Title: Re: Drivers door not shuting
Post by: james2 on 04 January 2013, 17:33
funny i read this now my rear doors doing it.  :evil:
Title: Re: Drivers door not shuting
Post by: ash2525 on 06 January 2013, 14:56
Had the same problem few weeks ago..had to pull the door shut and lock it with the remote.. After few slams and few times locking with remote it got ok by itself.. Good luck !
Title: Re: Drivers door not shuting
Post by: stu646 on 06 January 2013, 21:12
Booked it in at my local garage tomorrow to be fixed as I went out today and the two front door locks went completely on me, would not shut at all.

In the end had to use cable ties going through the back windows in to the front, keeping the door secure, just so I could drive the short distance home.

Was speaking to my mate who works for the RAC and he was saying that he has been called out to a number of VW cars, Golfs, Polos ect where the car door locks have broke. More than the other car makes.

Pain in the ass, will set me back £200 or so
Title: Re: Drivers door not shuting
Post by: xxChrisxx on 07 January 2013, 10:00
This is actually a very easy fix if you can get hold of a new module. £120odd quid retail for a new central locking module, so get one from a broken car. Biggest key is not to panic about taking bits and bobs off, and having a second pair of hands to hold the window.

I've yet to take my broken one apart to find out the problem, it seems like a spring has gone in the mechanism. On a fresh module, the latch should spring'flick back when the handle is pulled. On my broken one the latch doesn't move and was extremely stiff.

Title: Re: Drivers door not shuting
Post by: stu646 on 10 January 2013, 14:00
The garage have said it will cost £105 for each new lock module but he said I could get them cheaper on Ebay

I would go to the scrapyard but have no way of getting to one now.

Do anyone know what locks exactly I need? As he said the front locks will be different. I need two for the front, passenger and drivers side and one for the passengers offside as well

Found this, but not sure if it will fit mine or not,

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VW-GOLF-MK4-O-S-F-ELECTIRC-CENTRAL-LOCKING-DOOR-LOCK-EARLY-BLACK-TYPE-1998-2000-/330851359131?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item4d0847199b
Title: Re: Drivers door not shuting
Post by: stu646 on 10 January 2013, 15:48
All done now and ordered, spoke to ebay seller on the phone and just ordered 3 new locks for a total of £130 including delivery and if they don't fit for any reason, I get a full refund.

So happy with that deal.

Not so happy that 3 of my locks all failed in the space of a couple of weeks.
Title: Re: Drivers door not shuting
Post by: opel on 10 January 2013, 18:38
who did you get them off mate
Title: Re: Drivers door not shuting
Post by: stu646 on 10 January 2013, 19:18
who did you get them off mate

Brought them of this guy ;

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/150964460089?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649

That is the link to page where I got the locks from. You can email him to discuss what locks you need and if he has them in stock. Gave me some money of delivery to for ordering 3 locks in one go.

Would of cost £320 for 3 locks from the garage so to get 3 for £130 , works out well
Title: Re: Drivers door not shuting
Post by: opel on 10 January 2013, 19:31
same bloke i ordered mine from other night fast postage just waiting to fit it this weekend
Title: Re: Drivers door not shuting
Post by: xxChrisxx on 11 January 2013, 11:31
Before you try fitting them, just try the action of the lock. Move the latch so it locks locks in place, it should spring back when you pull the mechanism. Your locks will have failed months and months ago, after breaking it'll have been a slow death until the mechanism jams up altogether. Just unlucky that they all went at the same time.


Just a couple of points to note:
Get an M8 spline bit. An allen key will fit but it's likely to round the door module bolts.
The outer door handle will be loose when reconnecting the cable, it will get pulled into place when you tighten up the barrel bolt.
Title: Re: Drivers door not shuting
Post by: Kelvin1977 on 14 January 2013, 21:06
Did my passager one today its a easy job mate 1 hour a door tops
Title: Re: Drivers door not shuting
Post by: gazza1971 on 16 January 2013, 06:39
Is this the same part i need to bring my puddle light back on and stop the car locking its self when the drivers door is open ?
Title: Re: Drivers door not shuting
Post by: opel on 16 January 2013, 21:37
yer that could be a sign of a possible door lock problem got the front one done but after opening the rear door to put the glass in it too wouldnt shut :angry: i had a bad day so had to go to bed for a sleep to calm me down. just waiting for it to warm up a bit then now got that lock to do. only thing is ever since fitting new front one the door knob sits higher
Title: Re: Drivers door not shuting
Post by: Kelvin1977 on 17 January 2013, 10:07
Do you mean the door has raised a little ? :shocked:
Title: Re: Drivers door not shuting
Post by: rio_gti on 17 January 2013, 12:37
think he might mean the lock pin inside where the led flasher is  :undecided:
Title: Re: Drivers door not shuting
Post by: opel on 17 January 2013, 12:48
Yer that's what it is
Title: Re: Drivers door not shuting
Post by: stu646 on 17 January 2013, 13:07
I am still waiting for my locks to arrive!!

Really f**ked off. He sent them on the 10th and gave me the tracking number and it confirms it was sent on the 10th but the Royal Mail just has it down as being in their network...

I phoned up and they said I have to wait until it has been 15 working days until it can be classed as lost. I hate the post in this county, complete joke
Title: Re: Drivers door not shuting
Post by: opel on 17 January 2013, 18:08
I ordered one Sunday from him and it was here this Tuesday so he's quick at sending them
Title: Re: Drivers door not shuting
Post by: stu646 on 17 January 2013, 19:50
I ordered one Sunday from him and it was here this Tuesday so he's quick at sending them

Yep, he has been great. Been in contact with him for a couple of days.

The Royal Mail just won't do anything to help. Even though it has a tracking number they don't know what depot it is at..so god knows what point a tracking number is.

My car has been sitting at the garage as well since last Thursday, very annoying as with all the snow coming the next couple of days , the post will be even worse than ever.
Title: Re: Drivers door not shuting
Post by: opel on 19 January 2013, 18:52
fitted mine and there spot on but still my door pins stick higher and it winds me up i dont know how to get them lower
Title: Re: Drivers door not shuting
Post by: stu646 on 19 January 2013, 18:57
fitted mine and there spot on but still my door pins stick higher and it winds me up i dont know how to get them lower

Finally got my locks delivered on Friday , the only problem is the garage is shut over the weekend  :angry:

Not sure mate how to get them lower, is why mine is at the garage to fix, I usually end up causing more trouble with the car when I go fixing things.

Title: Re: Drivers door not shuting
Post by: opel on 19 January 2013, 19:17
no i dont know yet im going to have to strip the panel of again and have a look again as it winds me up
Title: Re: Drivers door not shuting
Post by: Kelvin1977 on 19 January 2013, 21:06
Prob come out of clip or clip is broken that would explain why its higher ?
Title: Re: Drivers door not shuting
Post by: stu646 on 22 January 2013, 13:55
God knows how much the garage are going to charge me today for fitting the 3 locks.

I phoned up yesterday afternoon expecting it to be done, but he told me it was a big job and it was taking longer than he thought.

Guess I find out in about a hour, just how much it is has cost
Title: Re: Drivers door not shuting
Post by: stu646 on 22 January 2013, 15:52
Still not done yet!!!

Used to trust this garage to, doubt I will use them again
Title: Re: Drivers door not shuting
Post by: opel on 22 January 2013, 16:50
if you was closer i would have helped you do it there not a bad job just fiddley
Title: Re: Drivers door not shuting
Post by: stu646 on 22 January 2013, 16:58
Cheers anyway mate.

Just annoying me. Booked it in the garage on the 10th, then had to order the locks in , which should of took 2 days at most. They took a week to arrive, but managed to get them to the garage last Friday.

He is telling me even though I got the locks to him Friday afternoon, he is fully booked with cars at the moment so only managing to work on my car in between jobs. I do kinda understand but would of thought he would of tried to get it done a bit quicker for me, seeing how long I have been without the car now
Title: Re: Drivers door not shuting
Post by: Kelvin1977 on 22 January 2013, 17:13
It took me an hour tops first one I did surely they would just stay late get it done I would have helped you if you was closer to me. I have taken things to the garage and sometimes unless they know the cars inside out you can do them in same time as long as you have the tools.
Title: Re: Drivers door not shuting
Post by: stu646 on 23 January 2013, 10:51
Hopefully I will get my car back today.

Really can't see any reason why it should take them longer than 3 days to fit 3 locks, fully booked or not, would think they would want my car gone, seeing as it has been there 2 weeks.

Just worried what he will charge now, with him keep banging on about what a big job it is , every time I phone up.
Title: Re: Drivers door not shuting
Post by: stu646 on 23 January 2013, 15:05
Still not f**king done.

I really have had it with this garage now, once again his excuse was that as I did not get the locks to him until last Friday he had to book a full weeks work so has had no time to work on mine. Not like it is a small garage, got like 20 odd staff in there.

Not sure why a 3 hour job could not be done over the last 3 days
Title: Re: Drivers door not shuting
Post by: xxChrisxx on 23 January 2013, 15:30
Where did you take it?

Might be worth just telling them to forget it and picking it up. It's not a big job, it's three door cars off, 2 bolts for the window, 10 bolts for the inner door bit and two bolts for the door lock module. It took me about 3 hours to figure out how to do it myself for the first time. I could now do it in about 45 - 60 mins.

Ring up ask how much work they have done on it. If they say lots, tell them they are bullsh!tting. If they say none, say take the car away and do it yourself. Or ask for a definite date and price for it to be finished.

DIY is very easy.


EDIT: To be fair on the garage, if they had you booked in the week before and are at capacity this week. You got the parts to them by COB friday. They've only had the stuff to do the job less than three days. As much as it's annoying when it's your car out of action, you cant magic 11 hours work from an 8 hour day.
Title: Re: Drivers door not shuting
Post by: opel on 23 January 2013, 15:35
I agree take it out and do it yourself. Front ones are easy and back ones ain't to bad just a bit tricky with get module out with window runner still in place. There's a link on here how to do them
Title: Re: Drivers door not shuting
Post by: stu646 on 23 January 2013, 15:35
Where did you take it?

Might be worth just telling them to forget it and picking it up. It's not a big job, it's three door cars off, 2 bolts for the window, 10 bolts for the inner door bit and two bolts for the door lock module. It took me about 3 hours to figure out how to do it myself for the first time. I could now do it in about 45 - 60 mins.

Ring up ask how much work they have done on it. If they say lots, tell them they are bullsh!tting. If they say none, say take the car away and do it yourself. Or ask for a definite date and price for it to be finished.

DIY is very easy.

G Bailey Motor Bodies in Timperley, usually been good with me but this is beyond a joke now. On Friday when I dropped the locks off at 4pm, he mentioned nothing at all about being fully booked and said it should be done by Tuesday.

By the sounds of it not much or anything has been done on the car. I said to him I need it by Friday as going away and he said ring at lunchtime tomorrow to see if it is ready or not.

I said I will come pick it up now to take somewhere else but he said all 3 door won't shut at the moment, so I am kinda stuck with it there. Really annoyed as even if he is fully booked he should make time to fit my car in to be fixed
Title: Re: Drivers door not shuting
Post by: opel on 23 January 2013, 16:34
They should slam shut if you do it hard mine did. If not strap them shut together just to move it
Title: Re: Drivers door not shuting
Post by: Kelvin1977 on 23 January 2013, 19:18
I was about to say rope or rachet them !! did they say how much it would be next they will charge you storage  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Drivers door not shuting
Post by: stu646 on 23 January 2013, 22:21
God knows how much he will charge. Going from what people have said on here, it should take no longer for a hour a door, so would hope no more than 3 hours labour.

I just wish he would of said to me on Friday when I took him the locks that he was fully booked next week and that he may not be able to do my car until the end of the week, so then giving me the chance to take it else where. The fact is, he never mentioned this and told me it should be done by Tuesday.

Is why it is getting me so mad, if I knew on Friday it would take this long, would never of kept it there. Will see tomorrow lunch time what is going on, if nothing, then I will take it home