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Model specific boards => Golf mk3 => Topic started by: aidan2112 on 12 October 2012, 21:20
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I know its probably been asked lots but with only my phone to try and search through on is a bit of a pain in the ass, anyone know of anywhere that sells them?
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http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VW-GOLF-MK3-GTI-2-0-8v-Chiptuning-PERFORMANCE-CHIP-/221070825541?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item3378d91845
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Just sell it and buy something with a turbo, "mk 3 gti 8v chip" means you are unhappy with something that can never be what you want it to be :grin:
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Don't waste your money, if the 8v is too slow try a 16v or if you love your mk3 enough maybe think about an engine upgrade.
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There's no point trying to make an 8v faster, you should just be happy cruising along, if not then buy something different! Nothing cheap will make a significant to your 8v.
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Save your money towards something quicker.
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but does this chip actually work and if so,what does it improve?
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Does what it says in the listing
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Although the bhp figures are exagerated.
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that ebay one sounds interesting as i hadnt realised they were so cheap, id go for it at the same price as some performance air filters
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2-3 gear is much more better apparently :whistle:
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The guy selling them is Czech hence the crappy grammer but he's really helpful and a few of us on here have them fitted to our valvers without problem.
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My valver was much more better and much more better on fuel also :whistle:
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I've cammed my 8v you think this would be no good for me? Would run too lean?
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You would probably be better with a custom chip set up on a dyno for yours tweed as the generic chip would be set up for a standard 8v
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You would probably be better with a custom chip set up on a dyno for yours tweed as the generic chip would be set up for a standard 8v
And this would cost more than what it's worth :undecided: ill leave it
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Yeah save it for the 4mo :evil:
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There's one on a bit of green near my house. R32 rep (looks good) loads of tax, MOT, leather, 100000 miles etc. £2000 :whistle:
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:cool: ,i know someone who has one and i said arent you bothered how much fuel you have to put in it,he replied "i couldnt give a $hit, i love it" :grin:
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:cool: ,i know someone who has one and i said arent you bothered how much fuel you have to put in it,he replied "i couldnt give a $hit, i love it" :grin:
:grin: :grin:
I reckon I could get a lot of money back selling the parts. It wouldn't be a daily so I would have the same attitude :evil:
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screech 16v you say screech would be better with a custom chip as this chip is good for a standard 8v... i've got exhaust and filter upgrades only, do you think this chip would be good for my golf?
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What Joe does (pepeoi, the seller) is basically amplify the standard fuelling. I've got before and after graphs and the AFR is almost identical, just the chipped one is richer than the factory chip. See below for graphs. Tweed, it'd be a good addition to the cam for yours, it wouldn't make it run any leaner than it already is.
whileoceanasleeps - Joe actually developed the chip on a car with exhaust upgrades and intake modifications so it would go well with your car.
Regardless of whether your car is modified or not, as I said, this chip is an amplified factory map. Meaning it will add power even if your car is completely standard, manufacturers always hold back on power to balance it with durability and fuel economy.
Before chip
(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/Untitled-12.jpg)
After chip
(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/golf%20mk3/IMG_20120211_154106.jpg)
Both lines have the same curves, just a bit more exaggerated, the amplification.
This was the HP and torque difference, graphs are lined up, just one is scanned other is a picture.
(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/golf%20mk3/abfdynocopy.jpg)
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this is one from powerchips.cz?
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Yes. Ebay seller under name pepeoi, his real name is Joe. If you message him prior to ordering your chip he can customize it for you further (he may charge more), things like turning off fuel overrun, more fuel at a certain rpm, etc.
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Birthday treat :grin:
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ive looked into this and been advised to not buy 1 as it could mess with the ecu in a bad way then its just cost u a whole lot of money for nothing
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screech 16v you say screech would be better with a custom chip as this chip is good for a standard 8v... i've got exhaust and filter upgrades only, do you think this chip would be good for my golf?
Yeah ,i just presumed it would be better for a near stock 8v as the chip was made on a dyno for an 8v with standard cam ,if i were you id go for it as i did with my valver with great results .
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cool, i think i will go for one this month then :) today i was quoted £450 by a body shop to bring my paintwork back to perfect but I think a set of coilies and a chip will be much more fun.. looking forward to this
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let us know when its fitted
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yeah man. can't frickin wait for payday to spend it all on my car.
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My birthday today so going to get one. :grin:
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happy birthday
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did you get one in the end tweed? he (finally) shipped mine today... :grin:
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i got one of him . opened the ecu to find mine is soldered in so i didnt want to fu*k about with my ecu so i never put it in .
anyone removed their old chip thats soldered in and fitted the chip ????
how did you do it without everything going tits up
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what age is your golf? you must have an obd1 engine cos the chips were soldered, mines obd2 so should be plug and play
soldering a tiny chip would be a mission :undecided:
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n reg early 1996 .
there not tiny tiny there like 3cm long , as far as im aware you melt the solder remove . and the new one is press fit . but i am not taking a soldering iron anywhere near my cars brain because if that solder melts over other contacts joining them will cause a whole world of sh*t .
may get a pro to do it :nerd:
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ah ok that's not as small as I thought.. you might be alright then, you can practise taking chips out of your tv first :)
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ah ok that's not as small as I thought.. you might be alright then, you can practise taking chips out of your tv first :)
I'm good at getting them out the oven do I pass the test ??? :whistle:
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you should go into business :laugh: if feed your golf too many chips you could turn it into a mk4
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got my chip today.. and my ecu is soldered in! :angry: :angry: :angry:
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got my chip today.. and my ecu is soldered in! :angry: :angry: :angry:
Just like me then mate , I didn't fancy having a crack at it , you going to ?
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ahh i was so optimistic it would be a push it.. no mate it's tiny! don't wanna screw it... was hard enough getting the metal cover off. gonna take it to a tv repair shop and get em to put it in. don't know how much yet
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danny_p is a guru with electrics and even he managed to burn my old 8v ecu beyond repair. It's either a job for a tuner with the proper equipment or nothing.
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hmm i dunno it think any electronics professional who solders pcbs should be capable enuf
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Believe me, no. Before danny_p had a crack at it I had given it to my electronics teacher at school. Even though he's got 30 odd years of experience in the field he couldn't do it, he said the tracks were very delicate and very small. He said you need a special machine which melts all the connectors at the same time then the chip is lifted out. It's something tuners will have at their workshop, but not something your average electronics shop or specialist may have, and they run the risk of destroying the ECU. You're best off leaving it to a professional.
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Believe me, no. Before danny_p had a crack at it I had given it to my electronics teacher at school. Even though he's got 30 odd years of experience in the field he couldn't do it, he said the tracks were very delicate and very small. He said you need a special machine which melts all the connectors at the same time then the chip is lifted out. It's something tuners will have at their workshop, but not something your average electronics shop or specialist may have, and they run the risk of destroying the ECU. You're best off leaving it to a professional.
Can you recommend anyone ?
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i've emailed a local tuning shop at thruxton circuit.. see what he says.
just thinking you can get new ecus for about £17 from ebay? might be cheaper to just get an ecu that's unsoldered?
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i've emailed a local tuning shop at thruxton circuit.. see what he says.
just thinking you can get new ecus for about £17 from ebay? might be cheaper to just get an ecu that's unsoldered?
Unsoldered? You mean one with the chip out? Don't think they're sold...And if they are they'll probably be a fair bit more. You then have to solder it in, which is a challenge in itself to avoid any of the many contacts touching. Just give it to a specialist, tough luck that you bought a chip without doing your research first...
Can you recommend anyone ?
No, I've not had to deal with any before, so my suggestions are contact the big names. Carbon, Revo, Rtech, AmD, etc.
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Just give it to a specialist, tough luck that you bought a chip without doing your research first...
i had a look actually, obd2 engines apparently don't have their chips soldered. i thought mine was obd2.. i'm wrong obviously though :grin:
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Just give it to a specialist, tough luck that you bought a chip without doing your research first...
i had a look actually, obd2 engines apparently don't have their chips soldered. i thought mine was obd2.. i'm wrong obviously though :grin:
Nothing to do with OBD2 or not. 16v and VR6 have push fit chips, so do early 8vs, code 2E I believe. ADY and AGG use soldered in ones.
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aha. that makes sense.
this guy must be wrong then...http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthread.php?5467497-How-to-build-a-relatively-inexpensive-reliable-powerful-2.0-8v.
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aha. that makes sense.
this guy must be wrong then...http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthread.php?5467497-How-to-build-a-relatively-inexpensive-reliable-powerful-2.0-8v.
Yup. Judging by the way he wrote that article too it seems he doesn't know much either.
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got a quote - £50 to solder new chip from west tuning
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got a quote - £50 to solder new chip from west tuning
Stuff that £50 to trick the ecu in to over fueling to advance ignition timing ? I think I'll pass
:huh:
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got a quote - £50 to solder new chip from west tuning
Stuff that £50 to trick the ecu in to over fueling to advance ignition timing ? I think I'll pass
:huh:
Do you even know what the chips from Joe do? No, so stfu.
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got a quote - £50 to solder new chip from west tuning
Stuff that £50 to trick the ecu in to over fueling to advance ignition timing ? I think I'll pass
:huh:
Do you even know what the chips from Joe do? No, so stfu.
Come on then what do they do ...
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Well it doesn't trick the ECU into anything.
It's a map that uses the standard AFR trace but adds a bit more fuel at certain points, smooths it out in others. It advances the timing further than the maximum capable using the standard chip and it also raises the rev limiter a bit more. Not needed for 8v's, but a great gain for a 16v.
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Well it doesn't trick the ECU into anything.
It's a map that uses the standard AFR trace but adds a bit more fuel at certain points, smooths it out in others. It advances the timing further than the maximum capable using the standard chip and it also raises the rev limiter a bit more. Not needed for 8v's, but a great gain for a 16v.
not needed for 8vs - do you mean just the raising of the rev limiter? I know it peaks way before it hits red anyway
also just wondering khare, do you know if a different 8v Ecu will work with my agg engine? ie non soldered.. long shot but it could be cheaper than soldering - cheers
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Well it doesn't trick the ECU into anything.
It's a map that uses the standard AFR trace but adds a bit more fuel at certain points, smooths it out in others. It advances the timing further than the maximum capable using the standard chip and it also raises the rev limiter a bit more. Not needed for 8v's, but a great gain for a 16v.
not needed for 8vs - do you mean just the raising of the rev limiter? I know it peaks way before it hits red anyway
also just wondering khare, do you know if a different 8v Ecu will work with my agg engine? ie non soldered.. long shot but it could be cheaper than soldering - cheers
Yes I meant the rev limiter increase on the 8v is pointless.
And no, the early 2E ECU is designed for a different management system, it won't work. Your chip is specially designed to be soldered in, push fit chips are a different size and fit.