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General => General discussion => Topic started by: Mikester on 11 September 2012, 14:25
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Hello all,
I have sold my Civic Type R and contemplating buying a Porsche Boxster 3.2 S (the 987 shape). I am going to look at one tomo and have read lots of reviews online however most of them seem to say they are good and reliable.
Has anybody had one and know any common issues to look for?
I will obviously be giving it a good check over before parting with any cash but anybody know anything specific?
Btw i dont need any hairdresser / poor man porsche jokes :)
Thanks
Mike
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Isn't that a hairdressers car? :grin: :wink:
I've driven my mother in laws 3.2 Boxster and it was half decent chassis, although still felt under powered. Couldn't tell you whether or not it was a 987.
She may have had a dud one, but for a car with only 51k on the clock, I was surprised to see that it had its first head gasket replaced at 33k by the prefious owner, at a cost of £1150 and then a second gasket at 50k at a further cost of £1400... :sick:
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Hmmm... The one i am looking at is a 2006 which is the second shape made which seems to have less issues. It doesnt sound good if that one has had all those issues!
The book 0-60 is 5.4seconds which cant be too sluggish.
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Hmmm... The one i am looking at is a 2006 which is the second shape made which seems to have less issues. It doesnt sound good if that one has had all those issues!
The book 0-60 is 5.4seconds which cant be too sluggish.
Its not too sluggish but when you consider you can buy a mkv gti and mod it for under ten grand and produce a faster car, then it becomes a no brainer.
Remap, fmic, tbe, induction system, hpfp and a few traction mods and you can achieve 160mph+ 0-60mph in well under 5 seconds and far better mid range power delivery. The Boxster block only produces 220lbft, whereas the Gti is capable of 260-300lbft, or more if you tighten the waste gate rods on the turbo.
My Gti is almost exactly the above, less a hpfp and will clock a 40-140mph time in just over 23 seconds, some 8 seconds quicker than the Boxster 3.2s. And go from 0-100mph in under 11 seconds, 3 whole seconds quicker than the 3.2s.
Here's some links to prove it...
http://www.car-videos.net/performance/speed.asp?Speed1=40&Speed2=140
http://www.car-videos.net/performance/speed.asp?Speed1=0&Speed2=100
And the best thing about it all, the Gti's running cost will be far less than the Porsche, regardless of mods. :smiley:
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Also nobody will think you're gay or worse still think you're just popping out to go and do a blue rinse and a perm..... :grin:
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What sort of an idiot would try and justify getting a Golf GTI over a Boxter?
Oh hang on....
Biggest thing to look out for IIRC are oil leaks, because they're normally crank or gearbox seals, which are an engine and gearbox out job.
Go spend some time on a Boxter forum is probably the best suggestion, but Porsches have a reputation as tough things.
Far more aristocratic choice than some front wheel drive hatchback and the handling will be proper. Do it.
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Or one of these if you want a proper rwd motor...
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201234482573485/sort/default/usedcars/price-to/10000/price-from/9000/model/m3/make/bmw/onesearchad/used/onesearchad/nearlynew/onesearchad/new/postcode/ba115bs/page/1/radius/1501?logcode=p
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Thanks DH. I had read about the oil leaks so it's something to look out for. I am now on a boxster forum.
I can see that a modified golf would produce more power but it's not all about that for me. I have had a gold gti and civic type r so I'm done with hit hatches for now anyway.
I will post back with a build thread and repair thread when it all goes wrong!
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My budget is about 12-13k. I would love an m3 but I would want a newish one. Can't afford right now!
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had a shot of a 3.2s was great hire 1 for a weekend see how you like it,an bein a honda man have you looked at the s2000 :smiley:
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Its not too sluggish but when you consider you can buy a mkv gti and mod it for under ten grand and produce a faster car, then it becomes a no brainer.
Remap, fmic, tbe, induction system, hpfp and a few traction mods and you can achieve 160mph+ 0-60mph in well under 5 seconds and far better mid range power delivery. The Boxster block only produces 220lbft, whereas the Gti is capable of 260-300lbft, or more if you tighten the waste gate rods on the turbo.
My Gti is almost exactly the above, less a hpfp and will clock a 40-140mph time in just over 23 seconds, some 8 seconds quicker than the Boxster 3.2s. And go from 0-100mph in under 11 seconds, 3 whole seconds quicker than the 3.2s.
Here's some links to prove it...
http://www.car-videos.net/performance/speed.asp?Speed1=40&Speed2=140
http://www.car-videos.net/performance/speed.asp?Speed1=0&Speed2=100
And the best thing about it all, the Gti's running cost will be far less than the Porsche, regardless of mods. :smiley:
Hahahahahahaha....
And the GTI will still be a FWD shopping car with a reasonable chassis...not a proper sportscar.
The Boxster is brilliant.
Utterly brilliant...and a proper Porsche.
Those that slag it either can't drive, can't afford one, or have never driven one.
Do it.
If you are worried, just get an aftermarket warranty on it - or if you can justify it, a Porsche warranty.
Speed isn't everything...if you value the drive more than willy waving figures you will adore the Boxster.
It will swap ends if you get it wrong...but get it right, and it will make you smile like no VW ever will.
On a side note...
I came upon one in my heavily modified S3, on a wet day...and got utterly humped by it.
I barely saw which way he went.
In 5 years on my 996 (same basic engine) I had RMS leaks that were covered by warranty, but that I wouldn't have paid to have fixed if I didn't have a warranty...and no head gasket issues or any other problems.
It also cost less than my S3 to service.
It wore out no bushes, despite hooning round Europe and doing 18 laps of the 'ring.
It barely used any tyres (2 rears on 4 years, next to 3 full sets on the S3 in the same time/mileage)
Do it.
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Thanks DH. I had read about the oil leaks so it's something to look out for. I am now on a boxster forum.
I shall give you some advice on how to avoid oil leaks - use it every day.
And use it hard. Get it hot...and let it work it's magic.
Mine leaked because it sat for weeks whilst I was offshore...cars used every day remain oil tight...with many miles on :grin:
I can see that a modified golf would produce more power but it's not all about that for me. I have had a gold gti and civic type r so I'm done with hit hatches for now anyway.
Amen.
A decent Porsche is an itch that you really should scratch.
I will post back with a build thread and repair thread when it all goes wrong!
I'll not hold my breath. :laugh:
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Far more aristocratic choice than some front wheel drive hatchback and the handling will be proper. Do it.
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What he says.
You know you want to. :evil:
Learn to drive it properly, learn to use the traction out of corners, wind a fantastic winding road and learn to brake until the ABS just gives the number of pulses you want (I liked 3!) and see if you can see the Golf GTI that was at one point up behind you.
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Far more aristocratic choice than some front wheel drive hatchback and the handling will be proper. Do it.
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What he says.
You know you want to. :evil:
Learn to drive it properly, learn to use the traction out of corners, wind a fantastic winding road and learn to brake until the ABS just gives the number of pulses you want (I liked 3!) and see if you can see the Golf GTI that was at one point up behind you.
i think it will be bye bye gti or r32 :wink:
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If that were my money.. then I would also take a look at these. Hate to say it but much cooler than a Boxster :lipsrsealed:
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/4168410.htm
And the last run out of one of the best engines ever produced. Get it right in this and the Boxster wouldnt see which way you went :wink:
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i think it will be bye bye gti or r32 :wink:
Well, a standard 3.2 left my 280BHP/330lb-ft S3, with Bilstein suspension and Brembo 4 pot brakes.
I mean just drove away...
In the wet, on a road covered in leaves...I couldn't believe it...I couldn't do anything with it.
So I suspect the majority of GTIs/R32s wouldn't have fared much better.
And all that, from an underpowered poor mans Porsche that's better suited to the hairdresser run?
Aye...right enough.
The 2.7 was a bit limp...the 3.2S is a completely different proposition.
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If that were my money.. then I would also take a look at these. Hate to say it but much cooler than a Boxster :lipsrsealed:
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/4168410.htm
And the last run out of one of the best engines ever produced. Get it right in this and the Boxster wouldnt see which way you went :wink:
I would also suggest a 350Z as a proper old school RWD sportscar...you get a lot of Z for the set budget.
I'd still pick the Boxster though :evil:
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350Z's do make a lovely sound aswell :cool:
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I have looked at Z4M and 350Z but they just don't do it for me.
It is looking like I might own one tomo. The cash is waiting and the one I'm viewing tomo looks like it could be a winner!
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The Op talked about figures, I replied with figures. Love the elitist/purist attitude.
I'd still rather have an m3 or a s2000...... :laugh:
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M3 is not really in the same category. S2000 is a death wish and the 350z is lardy not to mention jap so not even close to the interior quality of the Z4M or Boxster.
Probably a little late now but this may help you decide..
http://www.evo.co.uk/carreviews/cargrouptests/66239/bmw_z4_m_v_boxster_s_v_tvr_tuscan_v_alpina.html
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A friend of mine was hunting for about a year for a decent one. He was insistent on taking each one for an independent specialist inspection at £200 a pop too, and looked at six before finding one that got the all clear! HGs were a common problem, as well as coil packs iirc. As mentioned, avoid the 2.8s, and get one with all the toys if u can. Look forward to seeing it. :cool:
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Not that I've drove hardly any of the cars mentioned but a e46 m3 just doesn't feel fast. It is fast, I'm just talking about feel here.
My dream car is a 996 and I would love a boxtser.
Do it
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Do it! i too am starting to feel the Porsche itch having recently driven my uncles millennium edition 911 that he paid 13k for, nearly 13 years old and still tight as a drum! horrible colour interior though! :sick:
I would personally prefer a Cayman to a Boxster as i look like a right plonker driving a soft top sports car! mid life crisis and all that! ;D
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Mikey, Boxsters have major oil pump issues, apparently their is, an audible way of detecting the fault, but its not a run of the mill diagnosis, pump failure will render the engine scrap, due to the massive cost of repair, second hand units are like Hens teeth, or stolen!
You need to speak to an independent Porsche specialist to learn the ins and outs,
I'd also get an independent engineers report on any car your serious about...
Out of all the Boxsters I've come across over the years, I cant remember one that I'd consider owning! theirs an awful lot of sh!te out there
Thom
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Thanks Tom, the main issues I have read have been oil related. The one I am viewing tomo is for sale at a Porsche specialist so I'm hoping the condition should be good. They also offer a warranty which should give some peace of mind.
I will be sure to get on hands ad knees to check for oil leaks.
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http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2005-Porsche-Boxster-S-3-2-987-Convertible-in-Basalt-Black-Metallic-/310433131727?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item484741accf#ht_1057wt_1271 i like them in black like this one :evil:
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WELL??? Yey or nay? :tongue:
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I've been doing lots of Porsche reading recently. My investigations lead me to suggest purchasing a car through someone like 911 virgin, Hartech or Autobahn.
THis one for example - http://www.hartech.org/cars/car1/info.html
Nick
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Yep. Stuck a deposit down on a Boxster S. Bought it from a Porsche Specialist and got a warranty on it which is good.
Pick it up friday so i will post some pictures.
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Congrats dude. Enjoy your new toy! :smiley: :smiley: :smiley:
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Yep. Stuck a deposit down on a Boxster S. Bought it from a Porsche Specialist and got a warranty on it which is good.
Pick it up friday so i will post some pictures.
Bravo!! Well done.
Good choice. :grin:
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Yep. Stuck a deposit down on a Boxster S. Bought it from a Porsche Specialist and got a warranty on it which is good.
Pick it up friday so i will post some pictures.
Bravo!! Well done.
Good choice. :grin:
Got one with 12months MOT & Tax. Just had major service and got a warranty including engine and gearbox. Also has 4 new tyres (good ones). Sorted!
I am now like an impatient child waiting for christmas...
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Got one with 12months MOT & Tax. Just had major service and got a warranty including engine and gearbox.
Nice! Sounds good.
It'll not be as fast as a Mk5 GTI though :tongue:
Also has 4 new tyres (good ones). Sorted!
Are they the N rated versions?
Which ones are fitted?
I am now like an impatient child waiting for christmas...
Excellent!
I do hope you will be driving it, rather than posting on here soon? :grin:
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I am now like an impatient child waiting for christmas...
Good job. Hope it goes well for you!
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Cool beans! Congrats mate. :cool:
What happened to my post about him going quiet? :huh:
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Nice one Mikey - tell me it's not a silver one? :laugh:
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Thought of a 335i?
1 little map later and your on the M3 route :smiley:
My budget is about 12-13k. I would love an m3 but I would want a newish one. Can't afford right now!
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Thought of a 335i?
1 little map later and your on the M3 route :smiley:
My budget is about 12-13k. I would love an m3 but I would want a newish one. Can't afford right now!
I keep looking at these!! Nice cars!
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http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BMW-335i-M-Sport-Saloon-2007-57reg-Auto-F1-Paddle-Shift-Low-miles-FBMWSH-/160874930814?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item2574e4a27e
3.0 Twin Turbo - 306 BHP
+ Remap
370bhp/500NM :wink:
Thought of a 335i?
1 little map later and your on the M3 route :smiley:
My budget is about 12-13k. I would love an m3 but I would want a newish one. Can't afford right now!
I keep looking at these!! Nice cars!
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Convertible for me ta :laugh:
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Its not too sluggish but when you consider you can buy a mkv gti and mod it for under ten grand and produce a faster car, then it becomes a no brainer.
Remap, fmic, tbe, induction system, hpfp and a few traction mods and you can achieve 160mph+ 0-60mph in well under 5 seconds and far better mid range power delivery. The Boxster block only produces 220lbft, whereas the Gti is capable of 260-300lbft, or more if you tighten the waste gate rods on the turbo.
My Gti is almost exactly the above, less a hpfp and will clock a 40-140mph time in just over 23 seconds, some 8 seconds quicker than the Boxster 3.2s. And go from 0-100mph in under 11 seconds, 3 whole seconds quicker than the 3.2s.
Here's some links to prove it...
http://www.car-videos.net/performance/speed.asp?Speed1=40&Speed2=140
http://www.car-videos.net/performance/speed.asp?Speed1=0&Speed2=100
And the best thing about it all, the Gti's running cost will be far less than the Porsche, regardless of mods. :smiley:
Hahahahahahaha....
And the GTI will still be a FWD shopping car with a reasonable chassis...not a proper sportscar.
The Boxster is brilliant.
Utterly brilliant...and a proper Porsche.
Those that slag it either can't drive, can't afford one, or have never driven one.
Do it.
If you are worried, just get an aftermarket warranty on it - or if you can justify it, a Porsche warranty.
Speed isn't everything...if you value the drive more than willy waving figures you will adore the Boxster.
It will swap ends if you get it wrong...but get it right, and it will make you smile like no VW ever will.
On a side note...
I came upon one in my heavily modified S3, on a wet day...and got utterly humped by it.
I barely saw which way he went.
In 5 years on my 996 (same basic engine) I had RMS leaks that were covered by warranty, but that I wouldn't have paid to have fixed if I didn't have a warranty...and no head gasket issues or any other problems.
It also cost less than my S3 to service.
It wore out no bushes, despite hooning round Europe and doing 18 laps of the 'ring.
It barely used any tyres (2 rears on 4 years, next to 3 full sets on the S3 in the same time/mileage)
Do it.
lol you could get a bently turbo for £3000 , just make sure you buy a good second hand boxer . :evil:
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This is what i car a sports car http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Shpka0QZ6aM&feature=relmfu :evil:
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This is what i car a sports car http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Shpka0QZ6aM&feature=relmfu :evil:
hate sh1tty cars like that... nothing sporty about it
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Where are these photos then?
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Where are these photos then?
not tonight... he is doing his hair
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Where are these photos then?
not tonight... he is doing his hair
:grin: :grin: :grin:
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Where are these photos then?
not tonight... he is doing his hair
:grin: :grin: :grin:
Sorry. I was at night college on the hairdressing course. Probably going to clean it today so will start a thread.
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Where are these photos then?
not tonight... he is doing his hair
:grin: :grin: :grin:
Sorry. I was at night college on the hairdressing course. Probably going to clean it today so will start a thread.
mikester you're a top man :smiley:
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The only picture i have at the moment is this one, outside the grandparents house after a fancy dress
(http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/471351_10152126252880484_970458664_o.jpg)
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The only picture i have at the moment is this one, outside the grandparents house after a fancy dress
(http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/471351_10152126252880484_970458664_o.jpg)
Nice that you managed to find a barber shop quartet to serenade you and your Porch. :wink:
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Very nice Mike :cool:
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http://www.porschecartuning.co.uk/
8-10% gains and pretty cheap. Gotta be worth it :smiley:
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http://www.porschecartuning.co.uk/
8-10% gains and pretty cheap. Gotta be worth it :smiley:
I have looked at that. Apparently Porsche de tune the engines a lot to keep competition between the range. May get it done depending on how it would effect the insurance and the warranty on the engine. It would probably void the warranty so i wouldn't bother until that is up.
I have searched the web and there is nothing i would buy to change it at the moment.
The only thing i might change is the stereo.
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What about a burgundy hood. German metal pressed plates. Chrome side and front air vents to colour match the wheels.
Your a copper, so you could probably get away with the plates :whistle:
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Chrome side and front air vents to colour match the wheels.
Porsche do carbon fibre versions of the vents, trims, and interior parts. However the prices are fairly pricey...
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has rhyso not had a crack at tunin these :undecided:
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Chrome side and front air vents to colour match the wheels.
Porsche do carbon fibre versions of the vents, trims, and interior parts. However the prices are fairly pricey...
Yeah carbon sounds minters too! Just think chrome would se the wheels off nice.
Unless you ha carbon grilles and refurbed the wheels in anthracite :drool: :drool: :drool:
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http://www.porscheshop.co.uk/acatalog/porsche_boxster_987_carbon_interior_trim_exterior_parts.html
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http://www.porscheshop.co.uk/acatalog/porsche_boxster_987_carbon_interior_trim_exterior_parts.html
Yeah f**king dear that. Just paint it with hammerite and throw some silver glitter in it :grin:
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http://www.porscheshop.co.uk/acatalog/porsche_boxster_987_carbon_interior_trim_exterior_parts.html
Yeah f**king dear that. Just paint it with hammerite and throw some silver glitter in it :grin:
I will probably do nothing to it and just save my money for when it needs tyres. They are about £400 a turn!
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Weel at least you'll only have to change them every 3,000 or 4,000 miles :grin: