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Title: MK3 Anni
Post by: swainy on 24 August 2012, 12:51
So after killing the bora i had on air i decided to get a cheap run about, this was on Ed38 so went to have a look, it looked pretty clean, couple of slight rust bubbles under paint in a few areas but seemed to be pretty solid.
Bought it and drove it home the same day.
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First job was to take off the skinny Anni steering wheel and fit the one from the Bora

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The stereo was absolute crap compared to the Bora so made a sub box and amp rack

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Also tinted the headlights

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Just need to get some new speakers for the doors, got a set of mk4 seats that i may fit and have a few plans in the pipeline interior wise.

Title: Re: MK3 Anni
Post by: murraymint on 24 August 2012, 12:54
Looks good! Anymore plans for it?
Title: Re: MK3 Anni
Post by: swainy on 24 August 2012, 13:40
Yer want some coilies to sort the reverse rake out, got some 16" steels that I want to get banded unless I find some nice 17s, further down the line I'm going to 1.8t it and generally tidy it up.

It's got a cat back milltek on at the mo so thinking of either changing it for a standard exhaust or finding a silencer to fit as its too loud for me, think I must be getting old used to love a nice sounding exhaust.

I'm saving for my wedding for next October so majority of money is going on that but still doing cheap mods to tidy it up/make it run better.
Title: Re: MK3 Anni
Post by: SoundillusioN on 24 August 2012, 14:38
Nice job on the boot install.. What killed the Bora?
Title: Re: MK3 Anni
Post by: swainy on 24 August 2012, 15:08
Cheers, it's the first time I've made a fibreglass enclosure so it's not the best but sounds half decent.

Smashed the gearbox on the bora, was only a 1.6 so it wasn't worth repairing so stripped it.
Title: Re: MK3 Anni
Post by: SoundillusioN on 24 August 2012, 15:11
Cheers, it's the first time I've made a fibreglass enclosure so it's not the best but sounds half decent.

Smashed the gearbox on the bora, was only a 1.6 so it wasn't worth repairing so stripped it.

Even though you'd gone to the trouble of putting air on it?...
When is the golf going to be on it then?  :grin:
Title: Re: MK3 Anni
Post by: swainy on 24 August 2012, 15:31
Yer, I sold it all off to put towards other stuff and to be honest I wasn't that impressed with the air, don't get me wrong it was comfy and nice riding at whatever height but it was only a manual kit and was a mess about getting it all the same height etc. If I was to go air again it would be a full digital kit but that won't be happening in this anyone soon, coilovers and Tarmac kissing is where it's at.  :smiley:
Title: Re: MK3 Anni
Post by: DanChave on 24 August 2012, 17:07
Tidy looking mk3 mate :)
Title: Re: MK3 Anni
Post by: thai-wronghorse on 24 August 2012, 18:45
Good work so far.  :smiley:
Title: Re: MK3 Anni
Post by: swainy on 24 August 2012, 21:14
Cheers, my pads turned up today so hopefully if it's not raining I'll be able to give it a machine polish this weekend.
Title: Re: MK3 Anni
Post by: swainy on 02 October 2012, 14:31
Not really done alot recently, went straight through an MOT last month with a track rod end as a advisory.
Been trying to sort my new wheels. Had a trial fit on the rear.
Anni seats are hopefully being collected on sunday so will be fitting the mk4 seats in soon.

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Title: Re: MK3 Anni
Post by: swainy on 28 October 2012, 20:32
Made a flip key for it, kinda missed it from the mk4.

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Been trimming some of the interior the last few days, not taken many pics.
Could have just bought majority of it but that's no fun. Done A,B,C pillars and sun visors, roof lining and couple of other inner trim bits next but need some more material

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Took some pics of my mates caddy, been building a monster mTdi engine for it.
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Title: Re: MK3 Anni
Post by: swainy on 16 February 2013, 22:17
Not updated for a while, car is off the road now, deciding on what to do with it. Quite fancy ripping the interior out fitting a cage and going down that route but not sure.
I removed the sill covers today and was pleasantly suprised at totally solid sills, took rear arch covers off too and passenger is totally mint, drivers has a couple of scabs that have been covered in black paint so will probs get them sorted when the weather pics up.

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Bought some coilies for it too, turns out they are damping adjustable which was a result, especially for £50. Shame one of the rears is popped but will source a new one from fk at somepoint.
Also bought a set of Autostrada 3pc splits for it, they are being refurbed at the mo but cant decide whether to redrill the hubs to 5x112 and get them fitted or sell them on to fund an engine.

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Title: Re: MK3 Anni
Post by: Gavv8 on 16 February 2013, 23:08
Ahh the ritual mk3 de-plasticking moment, always a bit of a nail-biter that one... :grin:
Title: Re: MK3 Anni
Post by: *Jonnyg* on 17 February 2013, 01:35
Nice mk3 dude. Seen that caddy a few times, its gorgeous.


Would look fat with some banded steels on tho.  :evil:
Title: Re: MK3 Anni
Post by: swainy on 17 February 2013, 10:10
Cheers, yer was worried about taking it all off.l

Yer he keeps butchering me for the splits but he has some 8.5 and 9.5 corvette wheels to try and make fit.
Title: Re: MK3 Anni
Post by: swainy on 24 March 2013, 19:43
Had a few hours spare this afternoon so went out and had a fiddle about, managed to get the front coilies fitted, they are wound all the way down and the sump is about 2cm off the floor. :D
I stripped a few bits out the bay that wont be needed and started getting it ready for removing the engine/ tidying the bay up.
I'm off to pick up a vr6 head and bottom end tomorrow night for a bargain thanks to lowlifedubber, got a few plans for it.

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Title: Re: MK3 Anni
Post by: Gavv8 on 25 March 2013, 20:22
VR Turbo??...... :evil:
Title: Re: MK3 Anni
Post by: swainy on 25 March 2013, 22:47
It's gonna be on ITBs to begin with but a turbo could be a possibility in the future, I have read up on turboing with ITBs. ;)
Title: Re: MK3 Anni
Post by: swainy on 30 March 2013, 20:30
Had a few plans for the weekend but as usual didn't get much done.
Tools the Abs pump out and drained the power steering fluid, tidied up inside as it had turned into a bit of a dumping ground for various bits.
Wanted to strip the rear end down to make my drop plates but didn't get round to it. The steel I've got is 20mm so will act as a spacer aswell.
Got the VR block home and have wire brushed it all down ready to paint. Need to clean the head and get all the valves lapped in the can start building it.

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Title: Re: MK3 Anni
Post by: swainy on 06 April 2013, 17:23
Bit more done, picked the VR block and head up so have been cleaning that up ready to paint it. Bought a full gasket set, new crack pipe and thermostat housing.
Picked a few bits up last night from Gaz (lowlifedubber) for a proper bargain price.
Need to get the crank pulley bolt undone, was told it was a pig to get undone when the engine is out of the car, me and a mate were standing on a 2 foot breaker bar and it still didn't budge. Gonna take it to my mates dads who's got a 1" drive impact gun to see if that will shift it.
Need to build the head up, cleaned all valves and brought the valve tool and grinding paste home from work so should get it done tomorrow.
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Started cleaning the bay up a bit, there doesn't look to be any surface rust which is good, the whole car is solid which isn't normal for a mk3, it must have been taken care of previously.
Got the wire wheel to the drivers inner wing, found a couple of patches of surface rust so these were cleaned up etch primed then undersealed.
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Pretty happy with the result, gonna get the other side done, then will decide what colour to paint them.
Title: Re: MK3 Anni
Post by: LowlifeDubber on 19 April 2013, 16:28
Nice tidy example that dude.Glad them parts are going to a good home :)

Would look lovely with a full Votex Bodykit on this  :whistle: :grin:
Title: Re: MK3 Anni
Post by: swainy on 19 April 2013, 19:15
Cheers mate.

I know, if only I had something to trade you with.    :sad:
Title: Re: MK3 Anni
Post by: LowlifeDubber on 19 April 2013, 20:27
My missus likes the Porker rims but ive told her im not paying out for her car. :grin:
Can chuck some vr bits and her old wheels in with the deal mind ha ha
Title: Re: MK3 Anni
Post by: swainy on 20 April 2013, 15:39
Had a trial fitment of wheels on the front, think I should get away with it with a bit of arch rolling and trimming.  :smiley:

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Also got the inlet mani cut down ready to mount the throttle bodies.

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Title: Re: MK3 Anni
Post by: Foreveryoungaus16v on 20 April 2013, 16:26
Nice tidy example that dude.Glad them parts are going to a good home :)

Would look lovely with a full Votex Bodykit on this  :whistle: :grin:

Votex body kits look ugly :sick:
Title: Re: MK3 Anni
Post by: swainy on 20 April 2013, 17:05
We shall see, collecting it tues night all being well.  :smiley:
Title: Re: MK3 Anni
Post by: swainy on 24 April 2013, 19:55
Collected the votex kit and loads of other parts last night.   :smiley:

Got the engine finally out, all ready to go to its new home in a week or so. Gas and wire turned up for the welder so can get cracking on with smoothing bits and bobs in the bay.

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Also after selling my front calipers I tried these for size, not a clue what they're from but took them for payment about 6 years ago and have been sat in the shed ever since, they've got AP on the back of them. Think ill get some 312mm discs and make some adapters to mount them up.

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Title: Re: MK3 Anni
Post by: CJA321 on 26 April 2013, 18:05
Calipers look like there from a defender!

Infact id near bet on it  :laugh:

Nice work so far  :smiley: :smiley:
Title: Re: MK3 Anni
Post by: swainy on 26 April 2013, 19:04
Yer they do look similar, any way of telling for sure?
Title: Re: MK3 Anni
Post by: CJA321 on 26 April 2013, 23:47
If you can get a part number off them i can double check, but im near certain they are  :smiley: Just pm me it  if you get a hold of it
Title: Re: MK3 Anni
Post by: swainy on 29 April 2013, 12:55
Finally managed to get the bolt undone to get the front pulley off, thanks to a bigass 1" drive windygun.
Got the block all painted.
Also managed to get the engine bay pretty much cleared out ready for removing the seam sealer, not a job im looking forward to as ive read so many people have started and wished they hadnt. Hopefully will get the help from a mate.

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Title: Re: MK3 Anni
Post by: swainy on 01 May 2013, 21:38
Started getting rid of the seam sealer and afew unwanted brackets tonight, not as bad a job as I thought it was going to be, few tight areas I can't get into but will get some smaller wire brushes to get in there.
I blew my grinder up the other night cleaning up the rear axle, not having time to get another yet I dismantled it to make my drill into a grinder, works pretty well just gotta watch the old fingers with no guard on it.

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Got a coat of etch primer on all bare metal areas

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Title: Re: MK3 Anni - Engine bay tidy up started.
Post by: DanChave on 09 May 2013, 18:40
Nice work so far, I'm loving the idea of a VR on TB's :evil: Keep it up mate, I'll be keeping a keener eye on this thread now :)
Title: Re: MK3 Anni - Engine bay tidy up started.
Post by: swainy on 10 May 2013, 08:29
Cheers. I can't wait to get it running but still got a long list of parts I need to get.
Title: Re: MK3 Anni - Engine bay tidy up started.
Post by: swainy on 12 May 2013, 17:08
Bit more done today, went and got some supplies last weekend to help remove the seam sealer, gas blowtorch really does help, think its all pretty much gone now just a bit of cleaning up to do after the angle grinder flings the stuff absolutely everywhere.
All bare metal areas have a coat of etch primer, just need to get on with welding a few bits up then i can get a coat of primer laid down. Rain stopped play for the day tho.  :sad:

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Got the head all masked up and painted. Starting to look alot cleaner.

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Title: Re: MK3 Anni - Engine bay tidy up started.
Post by: Buckfizzturbo on 13 May 2013, 08:22
What ITBs are you going to be using? Been thinking about them for alooooooong time!

Great work so far mate
Title: Re: MK3 Anni - Engine bay tidy up started.
Post by: swainy on 13 May 2013, 12:47
Cheers, they are from a bike from my work 45mm so should be upto the job.
Theres a serious lack of info about on itbing the VR, theres a few bits on vortex but most people tend to go down the turbo/supercharger route.
Title: Re: MK3 Anni - Engine bay tidy up started.
Post by: Buckfizzturbo on 13 May 2013, 16:32
Cheers, they are from a bike from my work 45mm so should be upto the job.
Theres a serious lack of info about on itbing the VR, theres a few bits on vortex but most people tend to go down the turbo/supercharger route.

Yeah grant Motorsport where the only place I found that had done something like that to the vr6. Jenvey don't etc

I know there's not the most amount of room in the front but I was dissspointed I couldn't find a kit. Gareth spillars r32 vento looks and sounds awesome on ITBs!!
Title: Re: MK3 Anni - Engine bay tidy up started.
Post by: swainy on 13 May 2013, 20:36
Yer I had seen that they do a kit, but heard mixed reviews about them as a company. I think Gareth originally used them but had a few problems.
I have been watching videos on YouTube of his car and can't wait to get this thing running,
Title: Re: MK3 Anni - Engine bay tidy up started.
Post by: swainy on 19 May 2013, 11:37
Been on with a few bits and bobs the last week or so. Got some gas for the mig so have been smoothing off some of the unwanted holes.
My £0.99 ebay bargain turned up Tuesday, I really didn't think the seller would go through with the sale but he did. I had to arrange my own courier so got work to sort that so I didn't have to pay for it.  :smiley: its a electric power steering pump from a 106 GTI, need to mount it out the way and have some lines made to suit.

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Also my wishbone bushes turned up so can get the subframe built back up. Just in the process of painting it.

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Title: Re: MK3 Anni - Itb'd VR6 - Engine bay tidy up started.
Post by: swainy on 25 May 2013, 16:40
Started on the notch today, think I've cut it a bit big but sure it'll be fine. Started off with a holesaw but was taking forever so drilled a series of holes round the groove and chopped it with the grinder.

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My 312mm discs turned up aswell so had a quick mock up with the calipers in one of my 17s. They clear with a few mm to spare.

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The steel also turned up so have been making small plates to cover all the holes in the bay.
Title: Re: MK3 Anni - Itb'd VR6 - Engine bay tidy up started.
Post by: thai-wronghorse on 25 May 2013, 17:59
The size of that notch concerns me somewhat. :undecided:
Title: Re: MK3 Anni - Itb'd VR6 - Engine bay tidy up started.
Post by: BISSONE on 25 May 2013, 18:16
The size of that notch concerns me somewhat. :undecided:

Lol any chassis leg left? Possible serious weak point?!?!
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Post by: swainy on 25 May 2013, 18:51
I know it looks massive but i used the same size holesaw as I did on my bora and that didn't look as big. Ill get some thick wall steel tube tack it in and fill the holes in with the same thickness of steel to make it a bit smaller.
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Post by: jimmydub on 28 May 2013, 20:23
nice build thread here mate, hell of a lot going on! i know you did it a while ago but just wondering if you could go into a bit of detail about the fiberglass boot install?? its one of the next things on my list and i hadn't considered fibreglass untill reading this!
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Post by: swainy on 28 May 2013, 21:45
Thanks mate, yer there is a lot going on, hopefully soon it will all tie together.
The sub box was fairly easy, masked off an area of the boot, bought a fibreglass kit for about £30 off eBay, think mine was a 2kg kit but could have done with about double that for a couple of extra layers in some areas, made the front out of some Mdf I had laying about and fibreglassed it in place. Covered with some carpet and job done.
All in all took a couple of days and made the car stink for about a week  :grin:
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Post by: Wayne on 28 May 2013, 21:49
The size of that notch concerns me somewhat. :undecided:

Agreed that is a lot of metal to remove from the crash structure, maybe worth asking your insurance companies view as that looks very weak.
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Post by: CJA321 on 28 May 2013, 21:58
Yeah that notch is huge. Also, are you sure those defender calipers are going to work? This thread reminded me I forgot to reply, those part numbers didnt come up on our system at work but im certain they are from a defender. But in my opinion, they dont look like there going to fit the disc, from the pic you have put up the disc looks as far in as it will go to the caliper but still leaving quite a big part of the disc with no pad on it!!

Apart from that, good work so far  :smiley:
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Post by: swainy on 28 May 2013, 21:59
I also agree there is too much metal removed, I should have measured twice cut once but its done now and I'm more than capable of adding strength back into it like any normal notch.
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Post by: swainy on 28 May 2013, 22:08
Yeah that notch is huge. Also, are you sure those defender calipers are going to work? This thread reminded me I forgot to reply, those part numbers didnt come up on our system at work but im certain they are from a defender. But in my opinion, they dont look like there going to fit the disc, from the pic you have put up the disc looks as far in as it will go to the caliper but still leaving quite a big part of the disc with no pad on it!!

Apart from that, good work so far  :smiley:

Cheers for looking I did mean to pm you but kept forgetting. :) Upon looking about I'm sure there off a landrover of somesort too, they certainly look the same as a rangerover a lad at work has.
I know I said the exact same thing to my mate when the discs turned up and we tried them, I will have to look into finding some other calipers, atleast I haven't lost anything on them cus they've been in the shed for so long, may be able to sell them to recoup some money for something better.
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Post by: Diamond Hell on 29 May 2013, 21:25
I'm more than capable of adding strength back into it like any normal notch.

Without actually putting a box section back into the gaping hole in the crash structure there is no way you can add the strength back in.

As per Wayne - maybe ask your insurance company if that's an acceptable modification.  TBH it's verging on IVA territory.
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Post by: swainy on 29 May 2013, 21:47
Surely its like any other chassis notch that thousands of people run, I had read at some point last year a chap on ed38 was on the way home from having his chassis notched, he hit a central reservation at fairly decent speed and mullered the front end of the car on the same side, it hadn't even marked or bent where the chassis was notched.
People seem to forget that 1" of decent penetrative weld can withstand 1ton of weight whether its box section round bar etc.
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Post by: Diamond Hell on 30 May 2013, 18:06
And people spouting onabout the strength of weld seem to forget the strength of sectional steel and what they're tampering with is designed to do.  It is the profile of the box section that gives the front crash member its designed strength during operation and also what enables it to deform correctly in a crash, absorbing the impact energy rather than throwing it in to the passenger cell, if the bloke wielding the welding torch has made something 'super strong' which can't deform.

But I'm sure you know better than VWs engineers.

Still, tell us more about how you're going to tune the inlet trumpet lengths for the best response on your ITBs... sounds like it'll be ermazing.
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Post by: Bellend on 30 May 2013, 18:23
And people spouting onabout the strength of weld seem to forget the strength of sectional steel and what they're tampering with is designed to do.  It is the profile of the box section that gives the front crash member its designed strength during operation and also what enables it to deform correctly in a crash, absorbing the impact energy rather than throwing it in to the passenger cell, if the bloke wielding the welding torch has made something 'super strong' which can't deform.

This. The metal around the weld will just bend in ways it wasn't designed to.
Title: Re: MK3 Anni - Itb'd VR6 - Engine bay tidy up started.
Post by: swainy on 30 May 2013, 19:39
And people spouting onabout the strength of weld seem to forget the strength of sectional steel and what they're tampering with is designed to do.  It is the profile of the box section that gives the front crash member its designed strength during operation and also what enables it to deform correctly in a crash, absorbing the impact energy rather than throwing it in to the passenger cell, if the bloke wielding the welding torch has made something 'super strong' which can't deform.

But I'm sure you know better than VWs engineers.

Still, tell us more about how you're going to tune the inlet trumpet lengths for the best response on your ITBs... sounds like it'll be ermazing.

I've never said I know better than vw engineers, I'm just saying that it'll be like thousands of other cars on the road with a chassis notch.
Oh it'll actually throw it into the drivers cell as the notch is on the drivers side, the passenger side will work as Vw intended. :wink:
How would you suggest I "tune" the lengths, surely thats all down to personal preference of how I want the car to drive once the engine is built and a bit of trial and error or are you some sort of expert that's gonna enlighten us all?
Title: Re: MK3 Anni - Itb'd VR6 - Engine bay tidy up started.
Post by: BISSONE on 30 May 2013, 20:28
Its ashame man this forum has got so b!tchy these days, its easy for us all to criticise but atleast your having ago but as usual theres always alot of people who know better. Take no notice bud
Title: Re: MK3 Anni - Itb'd VR6 - Engine bay tidy up started.
Post by: swainy on 30 May 2013, 21:03
Cheers  :smiley:
Thing is mistakes happen I'm aware of it and its quite easily rectified.
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Post by: Diamond Hell on 30 May 2013, 21:13
Its ashame man this forum has got so b!tchy these days, its easy for us all to criticise but atleast your having ago but as usual theres always alot of people who know better. Take no notice bud

Less b!tchy and possibly more experienced and concerned you're making your car dangerous?

We are only the other people on the road who you might hit, after all.

I seriously doubt there are 'thousands' of cars with notched chassis arms in the UK.  A few hundred maybe.

Hardly a large enough sample to present any valid analysis of the safety of it.
Title: Re: MK3 Anni - Itb'd VR6 - Engine bay tidy up started.
Post by: Lewy on 30 May 2013, 21:21
Its ashame man this forum has got so b!tchy these days, its easy for us all to criticise but atleast your having ago but as usual theres always alot of people who know better. Take no notice bud

Got to agree with DH here.  There's a difference in 'having a go' and 'being dangerous'.

That notch is massive and even guys who 'lay frame' don't cut that much out of the legs, as you don't need to.

Measure twice, cut once...

And don't believe everything you read on E38...
Title: Re: MK3 Anni - Itb'd VR6 - Engine bay tidy up started.
Post by: BISSONE on 30 May 2013, 21:36
I was more refering to the other things hes doing, as i comment earlier in the post the notch is abit extreme, but as hes said to late now and im sure he isnt going to scrap the hole car for that. Just think its easy to be a critic.
Title: Re: MK3 Anni - Itb'd VR6 - Engine bay tidy up started.
Post by: swainy on 30 May 2013, 21:39
Well I beg to differ.
I'm not going to make my car unsafe as to be honest I don't really wanna die or cause injury to anyone if I ever have a accident due to a modification.

Anyway, can we now stop all this "b!tching" or "experienced talk" in my thread, I've heard enough of you moaning.
Title: Re: MK3 Anni - Itb'd VR6 - Engine bay tidy up started.
Post by: Diamond Hell on 31 May 2013, 17:38
You're a member of the Flat Earth Society, aren't you?  :grin:
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Post by: swainy on 31 May 2013, 18:10
If by that you mean lincolnshire then yer. I'm right on the edge of the wolds so there are 1 or 2 small hills.  :smiley:
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Post by: Diamond Hell on 31 May 2013, 20:15
Oh and a Flatlander too.  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: MK3 Anni - Itb'd VR6 - Engine bay tidy up started.
Post by: Gti_Jamo on 31 May 2013, 21:13
Interested in seeing how this turns out in regard to the tb's. Never knew it was possible given how little room their is.

As for the notch and its structural strength. Surely having a car so low that its needs this mod renders its impact energy absorbency qualaties with another car more or less useless given it being so low. Another vehicle would simply ride on over the top of the chassis legs. Putting more energy into the lowered car and less into a normal car. So aslong as its strong enough to drive on the road it should be fine. Lowering any car will always have a negative effect in a crash but we all know this and take the risk. I like my mk3 low but not enough to have put a notch in but our roads are not good enough.

Anyway keep up the good work.
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Post by: Diamond Hell on 31 May 2013, 21:17
Lowering any car will always have a negative effect in a crash but we all know this and take the risk.

Speak for yourself!
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Post by: Gti_Jamo on 31 May 2013, 21:36
Lowering any car will always have a negative effect in a crash but we all know this and take the risk.

Speak for yourself!

Yep, I am. Because mine is lowered like I said. I don't know your ride height preferences. But the fact is, I car will not behave the way it was intended to in a head on with another similar sized vehicle if its slammed to the ground. Dosn't deter people from doing it.
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Post by: swainy on 31 May 2013, 21:41
Thanks mate.

I'm unsure of how much space I will have once the Tbs are fitted but think I'm going to need a shortened rad as I think the trumpets will sit just about where the standard rad is. Can't do stuff like that until the engine is built tho.
The main reason I've done a notch is because I don't wanna go through all the effort of smoothing and painting the bay to then go and need a notch and have to redo it all. I lowered the car to pretty much where I want it to sit and the shaft was about 1cm off the leg.
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Post by: Gti_Jamo on 31 May 2013, 21:54
I cant forsee any issue with the notch aslong as its put together correctly. My vr is lowered just enough that the shaft never touches the leg and thats good enough for me. I'm sure making the space for the tb's wont be too bad although doing it so its all set up right and functioning on the road will be fun.
Title: Re: MK3 Anni - Itb'd VR6 - Engine bay tidy up started.
Post by: swainy on 31 May 2013, 22:16
I know, its gonna be one of those jobs where there will be loads of swearing and head scratching but the sound and end result will hopefully be worth it. :smiley:
Title: Re: MK3 Anni - Itb'd VR6 - Engine bay tidy up started.
Post by: JC on 01 June 2013, 14:42
good look with the notching, a lot of work to get it to a point of not being useable on british roads  :grin:

come MOT time  :whistle: and despite what people say about " its ok I know a tester " the rules could be viewed in many different ways.

and even a speicilased insurer will have fun with the " any modifcations " part of this.

but the work on the VR6 looks good, if you smash the gearbox on this and scrap the car let me know :afro:
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Post by: swainy on 26 June 2013, 20:16
Thanks chuff, I'm sure its gonna be a while before the cars on the road let alone smashing gearboxes and stripping it but will keep you in mind.  :smiley:
My Mot tester is my mums fella, he certainly doesn't let me off on anything, I could take it to a number of garages round my way if I wanted a instant pass but ill see what he has to say when the time comes round. 

Been slowly plodding along with this as and when I get spare time, mostly been in the bay getting everything smooth the paints turned up so as soon as its ready I can get on painting it.
Also had new balljoints, track rod ends and rear beam bushes turn up the other day, just waiting on a new lh a-arm and rear discs then I should have everything ready to get it back sat on its wheels.

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Post by: swainy on 01 July 2013, 21:34
Rear discs and a-arm turned up, got the new rear bearings pressed in and built up on the stub axles, just need to order new high tensile bolts and can get the rear beam all put back together and on the car.

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Subframe is all built up, waiting on the lh ball joint as they have me 2 rh, only noticed when I came to fit them.  :angry:

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Notch is also finished, just need to give the arches a good coat in underseal.

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Post by: DanChave on 03 July 2013, 07:55
The subframe is looking awesome dude!
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Post by: swainy on 03 July 2013, 09:37
Cheers, certainly looks a lot better than the rust covered bunch of parts that came off.  :grin:
Title: Re: MK3 Anni - Itb'd VR6
Post by: swainy on 13 July 2013, 18:39
Been plodding away the last few weeks, engine bay is nearing completion, keep finding small areas that I'm not happy with and have to go over again. Will get there in the end.

Should be on its wheels soon, front wheel bearings turned up so got them pressed into the hubs, got the rear axle all built up with a bit of camber, new bearings discs etc, just need to make up the brake lines now I have my braided hoses.

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Title: Re: MK3 Anni - Itb'd VR6
Post by: Junior74 on 13 July 2013, 19:13
Looking good Swainy,
Keep plodding mate..........  :smiley:
Title: Re: MK3 Anni - Itb'd VR6
Post by: swainy on 14 July 2013, 19:17
Thanks.  :smiley:

Got some paint down on the bay today as it was nice.

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Title: Re: MK3 Anni - Itb'd VR6
Post by: Foreveryoungaus16v on 14 July 2013, 19:54
Why that colour.?
Title: Re: MK3 Anni - Itb'd VR6
Post by: swainy on 14 July 2013, 20:13
I wanted it a bit deeper purple. It's does darken a bit once dry.
Title: Re: MK3 Anni - Itb'd VR6
Post by: DanChave on 17 July 2013, 08:34
Wow! Crazy colour! Nice work on the hubs and rear beam, I have all that work to come myself lol!
Title: Re: MK3 Anni - Itb'd VR6
Post by: swainy on 17 July 2013, 12:36
Cheers mate.
They look alot better, just hope it holds up ok and doesnt just rust straight through.
Title: Re: MK3 Anni - Itb'd VR6
Post by: swainy on 27 July 2013, 11:24
After seeing another engine bay I was really disappointed with how mine looked, also decided I didn't like the colour and wanted to get rid of a few more holes.

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Title: Re: MK3 Anni - Itb'd VR6
Post by: Diamond Hell on 28 July 2013, 08:16
You need to change the title of this thread - it's misleading and suggests it will be far more interesting than some bloke bu**ering about with his engine bay.  Do you even own a set of ITBs?
Title: Re: MK3 Anni - Itb'd VR6
Post by: Simeon on 02 August 2013, 14:41
Dunno if this is gonna be a daily mate as I haven't read the whole thing, but if it is I can tell you from experience that sinking loads of time and effort into making the underneath look mint is a waste :laugh:

Looks good though, apart from the purple of course ;)

As above, I've been looking in vain for your ITBd Vr .. started the build yet?

Keep it up :)
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Post by: swainy on 03 August 2013, 09:49
Thanks, no its not going to be a daily, i know what you mean but just didn't see the point in doing all the work on the engine bay and leaving everything rusty and crappy looking.
I wasn't keen on the purple so have ordered a nicer darker shade which will look loads better, along with a new spray gun.
I have started on the engine, only really been cleaning and painting things, the head has had new guides, stem seals and been skimmed so need to lap the valves in, inlet mani has been made so just need the silicon hoses to mount the itbs then I can sort the throttle linkage etc. I have been looking at turbod vrs which isn't helping.  :grin:
also waiting on collecting the gearbox then the block can be sat in the bay once its painted.
I get married in 2 months so I really shouldn't be spending anything on it but I just can't help myself.  :smiley:
Title: Re: MK3 Anni - Itb'd VR6
Post by: swainy on 10 August 2013, 20:39
This things seems to get 2 steps forward and about 10 back.  :grin::angry:
It is my own fault tho I should just do things before I get carried away, I had the bay in high build primer and had just applied the guide coat ready to flat, i had been chatting to a mate about raising the strut tops for extra travel and comfort but as I was so far on with the bay I had kinda decided not to go ahead, well today my mate popped in and within about half an hour we were drilling the spot welds out, heating the underseal and generally scratching up all the fresh primer I had just sprayed.  :rolleyes:

The tops have been dropped at my mates dads to spin off the bottom plate on the lathe so there 100% straight, ill then order the steel tube and weld them back together and weld back onto the car.

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Title: Re: MK3 Anni
Post by: swainy on 07 September 2013, 19:56
Not updated for a bit been pretty busy with other stuff.
Was out looking for new cars the other week when on the way home the headgasketwent on the daily audi. Placed a deposit down on the car went to look at the engine got ripped out the Audi for the mk3, the mk3 was originally going to go itbd vr6 but the 1.8t was always gonna make its way in, it's just a bit sooner than planned.
I've ordered a t3/t4 turbo for it so it'll get a few other bits done ready to go in.

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Still on with the bay, had a few hours on it today putting in the raised topmounts, these have been raised 30mm, I've also flipped the mounts on the coilovers which has given me about another 30mm so all in all should be able to drive lowish and still have plenty of comfort.

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Title: Re: MK3 Anni
Post by: dom on 07 September 2013, 22:44
I'm assuming you've checked the bonnet will still close? :grin:

I like smooth bays in a MK3, the only bit that annoys me though is when people remove the arch liners leaving a great big hole showing a nice chunk of dirty tyre. Any plans to fabricate something to fill the holes?
Title: Re: MK3 Anni
Post by: thai-wronghorse on 08 September 2013, 00:14
Blimey thats some serious turret extension, as mentioned by dom does the bonnet close also taking into account the strut caps?..dubious about the coilover modifications tbh.
Title: Re: MK3 Anni
Post by: dom on 08 September 2013, 00:23
Blimey thats some serious turret extension, as mentioned by dom does the bonnet close also taking into account the strut caps?..dubious about the coilover modifications tbh.

Isn't that how the H&R Ultralow coilovers are constructed? I think the principal is fine but I'm not sure I'd be happy running homemade ones :undecided:
Title: Re: MK3 Anni
Post by: swainy on 08 September 2013, 09:16
Yer I have checked and the bonnet closes with caps on with about 5mm to spare, also will be plating the holes, I've done the passenger side just need some more card to make the templates for the others.
The coilies have been done before and it's a pretty straightforward job, makes it alot easier when the struts come out the bodies.
I did look at some h&r's at edition which lowered upto 180mm which looked to have them flipped with super short bodies.
Title: Re: MK3 Anni
Post by: swainy on 24 October 2013, 12:46
Been a while since i updated as got married a couple of weeks ago so that took priority.
Now thats all done and dusted i can get working on this again, just bought a house so got that to sort aswell, there is space to build a garage so that will be started in a few months once we get sorted out.
Im going to be fitting the engine and box in the bay so i dont have to lug it around whilst moving, i need a gearbox bracket so i can fit the 02j box but the one i have isnt right, struggling to find one at the mo.

Had the manifold turn up for the turbo the week before the wedding, which pleased the mrs.  :smiley:
Got the turbo bolted on, just hope it fits in the bay as it sticks back a fair way.

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Title: Re: MK3 Anni
Post by: Shizzle on 24 October 2013, 12:54
Sorry a bit of track but does the Bora steering wheel fit straight on with no modifications???
Title: Re: MK3 Anni
Post by: swainy on 24 October 2013, 13:01
No not a direct fit, the splines are the same, you just need to drill 3 holes for the plastic bit on the back of the mk3 wheel to bolt on. Not a hard job just gotta get the holes in the right place.
Title: Re: MK3 Anni
Post by: Shizzle on 24 October 2013, 13:04
ok thank you will definitely be looking out for 1 to do that.