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General => General discussion => Topic started by: Toby on 14 August 2012, 09:35
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Just drove past a guy in a bently, £100k car give or take! Smoking in the car, window opened a smudge!!
Wtf is wrong with some people! Thats just descusting :sick:
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It's his car, he can do what the hell he likes.
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If I had a BENTLEY I would be smoking huge Cuban cigars!
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If I had a BENTLEY I would be smoking huge Cuban cigars!
Me too! :grin:
It's his car, he can do what the hell he likes.
Exactly, could be worse, could have been smoking something else and hotboxing it. :laugh:
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Dont mind people smoking in their cars, there in their own little space at the end of the day, its just when they sell the car on with a full ashtray and horrible yellow stains everywhere :angry:
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The only thing that used to do my nut in is when you would follow people on the bike and they would chuck a half lit/finished/still burning fag out the window.
The amount that used to hit you in the face or chest was unreal.
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Ban bikes from the road I say! :grin:
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Dont mind people smoking in their cars, there in their own little space at the end of the day, its just when they sell the car on with a full ashtray and horrible yellow stains everywhere :angry:
Well it's not as if he's ever going to clean it. If he drives a car like that he properly pays someone £100 a time
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Surely smoking in a car is almost as driving while on the phone...
Disagree with it totally. If you are that addicted/require a smoke that often you shouldn't be driving.
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Ban bikes from the road I say! :grin:
Here here!
While we're at it ban surfers from the sea I say!
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Surely smoking in a car is almost as driving while on the phone...
Disagree with it totally. If you are that addicted/require a smoke that often you shouldn't be driving.
Really? I mean really?
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If you are that addicted/require a smoke that often you shouldn't be driving.
I think your on to something there... :grin:
You've payed for the car, if you want to smoke in it its your own choice.
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Surely smoking in a car is almost as driving while on the phone...
Disagree with it totally. If you are that addicted/require a smoke that often you shouldn't be driving.
Really? I mean really?
Lol, perhaps a tad strong I agree, and I didn't mean driving full stop rather on the a said journey. If you need to have a tab that badly on say a 30min journey to the shops then why not wait as smoking in a car is dangerous.
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Smoking while driving is no where near as distracting as talking on a phone. It takes no concerntratio or effort and you can still keep both hands on the wheel when not taking drag.
Nick
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Dont mind people smoking in their cars, there in their own little space at the end of the day, its just when they sell the car on with a full ashtray and horrible yellow stains everywhere :angry:
You do have the choice not to buy that car when he comes to sell it (or hand it back to the lease company)
As for smoking whether in cars or not, it makes you stink, even if you think it doesn't.
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Rarely see folk cutting me off because they're smoking and driving.
I know a bloke whose a keen smoker and hasn't emptied the ashtray in his 1993 BMW 520 since he had it. Huge pile of ash on top of the ashtray, on the centre console to the gear stick and into the passanger footwell. Its been there that long its set in formation :sick:
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Seems pretty petty to be honest, the way i see it is its their car they can do what the hell they like & anyone who has a problem with it is obviously missing something in their life....
I smoke in my cars, even if theres a non smoker as a passenger, because if they dont like it they can get the 40ft looser cruiser an not hitch a ride from me :grin:
*********bad joke warning!!!**********
secondry smoke indeed............. theres people from chernobyl still alive for christs sake,
they look wierd & now we make them smoke outside!! :evil:
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Just my 2 penneth, I don't think smoking whilst driving is dangerous at all, as Horney said it takes no concentration, the only thing I wouldn't recommend is rolling a tab/bifta on your knee while driving, thats just unsafe. I'm much more concerned about Polish lorry drivers pulling 50ton round roundabouts while on the phone!!!
As for smoking in a car, I personally do, but I hate a car that stinks of it. As a result I NEVER smoke in my car while sat in traffic, ALWAYS have the window open as much as possible, and always keep it near the window. I refuse to use the ashtray in the car, its always IMO been placed in such a daft place in a car where if you were to flick it there its inevitable your gearstick gaitor will get covered in ash, and also an ashtray even half full STINKS! (I usually have an empty can/bottle in the "bin" (under armrest) to put dockers in) But it mainly doesn't bother me because I'm so damn anal about how clean my cars are inside and even if I ever drop some ash anywhere I hoover it up asap :grin:
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i see it like this if they wana let them. but i dont smoke myself but when i get in a customers car on a red hot day and all you can smell is that nasty smell that makes your eyes burn! ew ew ew and all the dash board is covered in ash thats nasty mainly mobility cars tbh lol, but they drive it there rules i gess...
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I used to smoke while driving my old fiesta. It was lovely to have a cig as a treat when sitting in traffic! I personally never smoked when it was busy or on the motorway or a country pass for example.
I do find it surprising that people smoke in posh cars - I never smoked in my golf even!
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If you are that addicted/require a smoke that often you shouldn't be driving.
I think your on to something there... :grin:
You've payed for the car, if you want to smoke in it its your own choice.
Even if it's your car, you ought to be paying attention to the driving, rather than have a distraction.
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Surely smoking in a car is almost as driving while on the phone...
Disagree with it totally. If you are that addicted/require a smoke that often you shouldn't be driving.
I agree with you. You cannot be in 100% control and focus of your car if you're also controlling a burning ember. Mobile phones is a bandwagon everyone jumps on, so it should be applied to ALL things that take your hand away from the car.
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Smoking while driving is no where near as distracting as talking on a phone. It takes no concerntratio or effort and you can still keep both hands on the wheel when not taking drag.
Nick
Disagree.
There must be some concentration and effort. How are you getting the cigarette out? How are you lighting it? There must be at lease one hand that's not controlling the car at the time, exactly like using a phone.
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If you are that addicted/require a smoke that often you shouldn't be driving.
I think your on to something there... :grin:
You've payed for the car, if you want to smoke in it its your own choice.
Even if it's your car, you ought to be paying attention to the driving, rather than have a distraction.
Says you, given your posts i hardley believe you look at the road when there are females around..
What does piss me off is when smokers ask to smoke in non-smokers cars.. GTFO! :grin:
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Says you, given your posts i hardley believe you look at the road when there are females around..
What's a guy to do when the sixth formers are on their way home? :grin:
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something i said on another forum a while back:
i smoke, and sometimes it has affected my driving, lit cigarettes dropped, brake immediately without looking, dont want to burn the seats or the jeans or the mat, feck everyone else, fling open doors and look for it before the car goes up in flames, a bit too many times (one of the reasons i am looking for a fire extinguisher)
i tend to have my cigarettes ready in the ash tray if i want one, usually when the car comes to a halt would i light a fag or get the passenger to do it for me, on certain occasions i have rolled a fag on the motorway doing 90, who cares, i need my nicotine fix
you can hold the steering wheel with both hands and still smoke, don't need any hands for smoking as long as one does not mind the smoke in their eye and causing a collision. i tend to keep the window open, have wind/rain deflectors so the window is open all the time i am driving it, even at 150mph, which creates a vacuum thereby sucking everything inside outside, and that helps when not using the hands to smoke.
i would not recommend doing it, its dangerous, but i cant help it, addicted to the nicotine
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Smoking while driving is no where near as distracting as talking on a phone. It takes no concerntratio or effort and you can still keep both hands on the wheel when not taking drag.
Nick
Disagree.
There must be some concentration and effort. How are you getting the cigarette out? How are you lighting it? There must be at lease one hand that's not controlling the car at the time, exactly like using a phone.
Well I used to just light it and stub it out at a traffic light or something (hence not smoking on motorway or similar), and you only have to have one hand off the wheel briefly every so often to take a pull.
I suppose you have your hands at 10 to 2 100% of the time though?
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:grin:
Smoking while driving is no where near as distracting as talking on a phone. It takes no concerntratio or effort and you can still keep both hands on the wheel when not taking drag.
Nick
Disagree.
There must be some concentration and effort. How are you getting the cigarette out? How are you lighting it? There must be at lease one hand that's not controlling the car at the time, exactly like using a phone.
Well I used to just light it and stub it out at a traffic light or something (hence not smoking on motorway or similar), and you only have to have one hand off the wheel briefly every so often to take a pull.
I suppose you have your hands at 10 to 2 100% of the time though?
or change the radio channel, point the vent a different way, adjust the rear view mirror or even change gears
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I smoke, although not while driving and wouldn't mind others smoking in my car. I've always been in the mindset that you should only be driving while driving an in the opinion that anyone who talks on their phone or txting whilst moving should be automatically banned for ten years. Not sure if i would apply that to smoking and driving but I guess the distractive principle is the same usually caused by dropping the stub on the floor or ash on your lap, there is going to be that momentary distraction where your eyes come right off the road.
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Is this even a serious argument? I have always smoked in my car and not once has it caused a distraction.
This is in no way comparable to being on the phone, texting or the like.
I think adjusting the rear view mirror causes more distraction if anything!
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If you ask me most people drive like tw*ts anyway so not smoking is hardly going to make everyone drive like an angel.
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Smoking while driving is no where near as distracting as talking on a phone. It takes no concerntratio or effort and you can still keep both hands on the wheel when not taking drag.
Nick
Disagree.
There must be some concentration and effort. How are you getting the cigarette out? How are you lighting it? There must be at lease one hand that's not controlling the car at the time, exactly like using a phone.
Well I used to just light it and stub it out at a traffic light or something (hence not smoking on motorway or similar), and you only have to have one hand off the wheel briefly every so often to take a pull.
I suppose you have your hands at 10 to 2 100% of the time though?
or change the radio channel, point the vent a different way, adjust the rear view mirror or even change gears
Thats equipment of the car though.
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If you ask me most people drive like tw*ts anyway so not smoking is hardly going to make everyone drive like an angel.
This seems to be the sad truth :(
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:grin:
Smoking while driving is no where near as distracting as talking on a phone. It takes no concerntratio or effort and you can still keep both hands on the wheel when not taking drag.
Nick
Disagree.
There must be some concentration and effort. How are you getting the cigarette out? How are you lighting it? There must be at lease one hand that's not controlling the car at the time, exactly like using a phone.
Well I used to just light it and stub it out at a traffic light or something (hence not smoking on motorway or similar), and you only have to have one hand off the wheel briefly every so often to take a pull.
I suppose you have your hands at 10 to 2 100% of the time though?
or change the radio channel, point the vent a different way, adjust the rear view mirror or even change gears
Thats equipment of the car though.
And an ashtray isnt?
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My one arguement against smoking in the car is what if you drop it when it's lit?
You can argue all you like that changing station, adjusting mirrors, etc is the same, but it isn't IF the fag drops from your chops whilst lit, instant panic sets in which will take ALL of your concentration off the road.
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:laugh: ive always done it and always will im affraid, try telling a fatty he cant eat behind the wheel :rolleyes:
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I smoke roll ups, I pre roll them and leave them by the speedo, when I want one I pick it up and light it then smoke.
If I drop it it's not that much of a fuss, the way I roll them they need regular pulls to keep them lit.
Smokers can still have their hands on the steering wheel when not taking a pull. I'd say when taking a pull on a fag you'll have only one hand on the wheel for that same amount of time that you would if changing gear.
Also, I'd be a worse driver if I had to go without a fag when driving. Drivers are thingys.
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driving while smoking should deffo be banned
seen it countless times people making mistakes because they are distracted by the smoking or cant manoeuvre correctly because one of their hands has a cancer stick in it
Are people that addicted they cant go without till they stop..
filthy habit..
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It has no effect on my ability to drive since quitting the nasty pointless exercise 2 weeks ago. :smiley:
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:grin:
Smoking while driving is no where near as distracting as talking on a phone. It takes no concerntratio or effort and you can still keep both hands on the wheel when not taking drag.
Nick
Disagree.
There must be some concentration and effort. How are you getting the cigarette out? How are you lighting it? There must be at lease one hand that's not controlling the car at the time, exactly like using a phone.
Well I used to just light it and stub it out at a traffic light or something (hence not smoking on motorway or similar), and you only have to have one hand off the wheel briefly every so often to take a pull.
I suppose you have your hands at 10 to 2 100% of the time though?
or change the radio channel, point the vent a different way, adjust the rear view mirror or even change gears
Thats equipment of the car though.
And an ashtray isnt?
Your point being? The seat next to you is equipment of the car, but what you put in it isn't. So if your phone is there, you shouldn't touch it, if you put a laptop there, you shouldn't touch it.
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:grin:
Smoking while driving is no where near as distracting as talking on a phone. It takes no concerntratio or effort and you can still keep both hands on the wheel when not taking drag.
Nick
Disagree.
There must be some concentration and effort. How are you getting the cigarette out? How are you lighting it? There must be at lease one hand that's not controlling the car at the time, exactly like using a phone.
Well I used to just light it and stub it out at a traffic light or something (hence not smoking on motorway or similar), and you only have to have one hand off the wheel briefly every so often to take a pull.
I suppose you have your hands at 10 to 2 100% of the time though?
or change the radio channel, point the vent a different way, adjust the rear view mirror or even change gears
Thats equipment of the car though.
And an ashtray isnt?
Your point being? The seat next to you is equipment of the car, but what you put in it isn't. So if your phone is there, you shouldn't touch it, if you put a laptop there, you shouldn't touch it.
shouldn't be touching the radio, or other equipment either, people have been done for doing that as its a distraction but its still in a car
and you dont have a point that is my point
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:grin:
Smoking while driving is no where near as distracting as talking on a phone. It takes no concerntratio or effort and you can still keep both hands on the wheel when not taking drag.
Nick
Disagree.
There must be some concentration and effort. How are you getting the cigarette out? How are you lighting it? There must be at lease one hand that's not controlling the car at the time, exactly like using a phone.
Well I used to just light it and stub it out at a traffic light or something (hence not smoking on motorway or similar), and you only have to have one hand off the wheel briefly every so often to take a pull.
I suppose you have your hands at 10 to 2 100% of the time though?
or change the radio channel, point the vent a different way, adjust the rear view mirror or even change gears
Thats equipment of the car though.
And an ashtray isnt?
Your point being? The seat next to you is equipment of the car, but what you put in it isn't. So if your phone is there, you shouldn't touch it, if you put a laptop there, you shouldn't touch it.
shouldn't be touching the radio, or other equipment either, people have been done for doing that as its a distraction but its still in a car
and you dont have a point that is my point
I do have a point.
A burning ember whilst driving is dangerous. If you can't drive a car without having something that you just can't do without due to addiction, then you need mental attention.
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:grin:
Smoking while driving is no where near as distracting as talking on a phone. It takes no concerntratio or effort and you can still keep both hands on the wheel when not taking drag.
Nick
Disagree.
There must be some concentration and effort. How are you getting the cigarette out? How are you lighting it? There must be at lease one hand that's not controlling the car at the time, exactly like using a phone.
Well I used to just light it and stub it out at a traffic light or something (hence not smoking on motorway or similar), and you only have to have one hand off the wheel briefly every so often to take a pull.
O
I suppose you have your hands at 10 to 2 100% of the time though?
or change the radio channel, point the vent a different way, adjust the rear view mirror or even change gears
Thats equipment of the car though.
And an ashtray isnt?
Your point being? The seat next to you is equipment of the car, but what you put in it isn't. So if your phone is there, you shouldn't touch it, if you put a laptop there, you shouldn't touch it.
shouldn't be touching the radio, or other equipment either, people have been done for doing that as its a distraction but its still in a car
and you dont have a point that is my point
I do have a point.
A burning ember whilst driving is dangerous. If you can't drive a car without having something that you just can't do without due to addiction, then you need mental attention.
The new quoting layout is ridiculous!
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:grin:
Smoking while driving is no where near as distracting as talking on a phone. It takes no concerntratio or effort and you can still keep both hands on the wheel when not taking drag.
Nick
Disagree.
There must be some concentration and effort. How are you getting the cigarette out? How are you lighting it? There must be at lease one hand that's not controlling the car at the time, exactly like using a phone.
Well I used to just light it and stub it out at a traffic light or something (hence not smoking on motorway or similar), and you only have to have one hand off the wheel briefly every so often to take a pull.
O
I suppose you have your hands at 10 to 2 100% of the time though?
or change the radio channel, point the vent a different way, adjust the rear view mirror or even change gears
Thats equipment of the car though.
And an ashtray isnt?
Your point being? The seat next to you is equipment of the car, but what you put in it isn't. So if your phone is there, you shouldn't touch it, if you put a laptop there, you shouldn't touch it.
shouldn't be touching the radio, or other equipment either, people have been done for doing that as its a distraction but its still in a car
and you dont have a point that is my point
I do have a point.
A burning ember whilst driving is dangerous. If you can't drive a car without having something that you just can't do without due to addiction, then you need mental attention.
The new quoting layout is ridiculous!
Don't see a problem with it :grin: :grin: :lipsrsealed:
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:grin:
Smoking while driving is no where near as distracting as talking on a phone. It takes no concerntratio or effort and you can still keep both hands on the wheel when not taking drag.
Nick
Disagree.
There must be some concentration and effort. How are you getting the cigarette out? How are you lighting it? There must be at lease one hand that's not controlling the car at the time, exactly like using a phone.
Well I used to just light it and stub it out at a traffic light or something (hence not smoking on motorway or similar), and you only have to have one hand off the wheel briefly every so often to take a pull.
O
I suppose you have your hands at 10 to 2 100% of the time though?
or change the radio channel, point the vent a different way, adjust the rear view mirror or even change gears
p/quote]
Thats equipment of the car though.
And an ashtray isnt?
Your point being? The seat next to you is equipment of the car, but what you put in it isn't. So if your phone is there, you shouldn't touch it, if you put a laptop there, you shouldn't touch it.
shouldn't be touching the radio, or other equipment either, people have been done for doing that as its a distraction but its still in a car
and you dont have a point that is my point
i
I do have a point.
A burning ember whilst driving is dangerous. If you can't drive a car without having something that you just can't do without due to addiction, then you need mental attention.
The new quoting layout is ridiculous!
Don't see a problem with it :grin: :grin: :lipsrsealed:
I suppose it does look kinda funky if you're into geometric shizzle...
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:grin:
Smoking while driving is no where near as distracting as talking on a phone. It takes no concerntratio or effort and you can still keep both hands on the wheel when not taking drag.
Nick
Disagree.
There must be some concentration and effort. How are you getting the cigarette out? How are you lighting it? There must be at lease one hand that's not controlling the car at the time, exactly like using a phone.
Well I used to just light it and stub it out at a traffic light or something (hence not smoking on motorway or similar), and you only have to have one hand off the wheel briefly every so often to take a pull.
O
I suppose you have your hands at 10 to 2 100% of the time though?
or change the radio channel, point the vent a different way, adjust the rear view mirror or even change gears
p/quote]
Thats equipment of the car though.
And an ashtray isnt?
Your point being? The seat next to you is equipment of the car, but what you put in it isn't. So if your phone is there, you shouldn't touch it, if you put a laptop there, you shouldn't touch it.
shouldn't be touching the radio, or other equipment either, people have been done for doing that as its a distraction but its still in a car
and you dont have a point that is my point
i
I do have a point.
A burning ember whilst driving is dangerous. If you can't drive a car without having something that you just can't do without due to addiction, then you need mental attention.
The new quoting layout is ridiculous!
Don't see a problem with it :grin: :grin: :lipsrsealed:
I suppose it does look kinda funky if you're into geometric shizzle...
I have nothing to comment on, but feel I should add to the layers of quoting.
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:grin:
Smoking while driving is no where near as distracting as talking on a phone. It takes no concerntratio or effort and you can still keep both hands on the wheel when not taking drag.
Nick
Disagree.
There must be some concentration and effort. How are you getting the cigarette out? How are you lighting it? There must be at lease one hand that's not controlling the car at the time, exactly like using a phone.
Well I used to just light it and stub it out at a traffic light or something (hence not smoking on motorway or similar), and you only have to have one hand off the wheel briefly every so often to take a pull.
O
I suppose you have your hands at 10 to 2 100% of the time though?
or change the radio channel, point the vent a different way, adjust the rear view mirror or even change gears
p/quote]
Thats equipment of the car though.
And an ashtray isnt?
Your point being? The seat next to you is equipment of the car, but what you put in it isn't. So if your phone is there, you shouldn't touch it, if you put a laptop there, you shouldn't touch it.
shouldn't be touching the radio, or other equipment either, people have been done for doing that as its a distraction but its still in a car
and you dont have a point that is my point
i
I do have a point.
A burning ember whilst driving is dangerous. If you can't drive a car without having something that you just can't do without due to addiction, then you need mental attention.
The new quoting layout is ridiculous!
Don't see a problem with it :grin: :grin: :lipsrsealed:
I suppose it does look kinda funky if you're into geometric shizzle...
I have nothing to comment on, but feel I should add to the layers of quoting.
Far out man!!
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Is this even a serious argument? I have always smoked in my car and not once has it caused a distraction.
This is in no way comparable to being on the phone, texting or the like.
I think adjusting the rear view mirror causes more distraction if anything!
Hasn't caused a distraction yet?
Who is to say you look down, to get a tab from the packet, you look up and crash bang wallop. It is a non essential task which may lead to an incident.
I agree with you on the mirror thing...But why would you be adjusting it during travel? Pretty sure mine stays in the same place over night.
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If I had a BENTLEY I would be smoking huge Cuban cigars!
If I had a Bentley I'd be smoking a dang baton wrapped in a banana leaf. And I'd flick the ash on the passenger seat.....fcuk it why not!
Might even wipe a bogey under the seat if I'm feeling adventurous! :shocked:
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Smoking while driving is no where near as distracting as talking on a phone. It takes no concerntratio or effort and you can still keep both hands on the wheel when not taking drag.
Nick
Disagree.
There must be some concentration and effort. How are you getting the cigarette out? How are you lighting it? There must be at lease one hand that's not controlling the car at the time, exactly like using a phone.
Well I used to just light it and stub it out at a traffic light or something (hence not smoking on motorway or similar), and you only have to have one hand off the wheel briefly every so often to take a pull.
O
I suppose you have your hands at 10 to 2 100% of the time though?
or change the radio channel, point the vent a different way, adjust the rear view mirror or even change gears
p/quote]
Thats equipment of the car though.
And an ashtray isnt?
Your point being? The seat next to you is equipment of the car, but what you put in it isn't. So if your phone is there, you shouldn't touch it, if you put a laptop there, you shouldn't touch it.
shouldn't be touching the radio, or other equipment either, people have been done for doing that as its a distraction but its still in a car
and you dont have a point that is my point
i
I do have a point.
A burning ember whilst driving is dangerous. If you can't drive a car without having something that you just can't do without due to addiction, then you need mental attention.
The new quoting layout is ridiculous!
Don't see a problem with it :grin: :grin: :lipsrsealed:
I suppose it does look kinda funky if you're into geometric shizzle...
I have nothing to comment on, but feel I should add to the layers of quoting.
Far out man!!
MYEYESHURT
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I agree that smoking should be banned while driving. If you're that desperate for a fag, pull over and enjoy it!
I also hate that if I'm in traffic or driving round town I can usually smell the smoke in my car from the car in front. It's disgusting and not something I want to experience in my nice, clean smelling car.
You're also handling a stick.. that's burning.. while operating a 1 ton+ vehicle!! Madness.
The "I smoke and have never had any problems/an accident due to it" needs "so far" adding to the end.
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well i am a smoker i smoke in my car always have always will ... ITS MY CAR nuff said
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-19946656 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-19946656)
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-19946656 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-19946656)
NEWS JUST IN... SMOKING IN A CONFINED SPACE CAUSES AIR POLLUTION :nerd:
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well i am a smoker i smoke in my car always have always will ... ITS MY CAR nuff said
this is true!!
"yawns, lights up cig, burns of using 1 hand steering and other hand on hand brake while cig hangs from the mouth with ash lumps falling onto his lap"
cyaaaa :grin:
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All humans should be banned from driving and replaced with mind wiped servitors hard wired into the car and fed through tubes.
They will follow programmed routines making speeding and bad driving a thing of the past, such is the will of the Emperor
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All humans should be banned from driving and replaced with mind wiped servitors hard wired into the car and fed through tubes.
They will follow programmed routines making speeding and bad driving a thing of the past, such is the will of the Emperor
(http://th03.deviantart.net/fs31/300W/f/2008/193/9/d/The_Emperor_Protects_by_Stormcrow_18.jpg)
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smokes bad
So are loads of things, live and let live I say, :whistle:
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And tax cyclists :grin: