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Model specific boards => Golf mk4 => Topic started by: Nino on 12 August 2012, 17:56

Title: ok so after trying this & checking that, I think its time I had it looked at.
Post by: Nino on 12 August 2012, 17:56
Hey guys,

Alittle while ago I posted a few error codes I was getting..

17545
 P1137
 Long Term Fuel Trim Add.Fuel,Bank1 System too Rich

17704
 P1296
 Cooling system malfunction

17705
 P1297
 Connection turbocharger - throttle valve pressure hose

I manage to fix the 17704 by replacing the Temp sender & termo but I still have the other two, So far I have done the following..

Now I do know that my 2ndry air thingy is faultly as it sounds like a tracktor when i start her up for about 60 sec but I have been told this has nothing to do with my fault codes.

My 2 questions are, before I get her booked into Euro performance is there anything else you guys can think of that i could/should or havent tryed yet?
also am I right in thinking that the error code 17545 would be because of 17705 causing it? or will that defo be for another reason??

Thanks guys :)
Title: Re: ok so after trying this & checking that, I think its time I had it looked at.
Post by: rio_gti on 12 August 2012, 21:10
Bet there is a split in one of the vacuum hoses double check them all or even buy some new silicone vacuum host think its 3mm inside diameter and replace it all
Title: Re: ok so after trying this & checking that, I think its time I had it looked at.
Post by: Wazzzer on 12 August 2012, 21:14
you need a pressure test to be 100% sure
Title: Re: ok so after trying this & checking that, I think its time I had it looked at.
Post by: Nino on 12 August 2012, 21:32
Quote from: rio_gti on 12 August 2012, 21:10
Bet there is a split in one of the vacuum hoses double check them all or even buy some new silicone vacuum host think its 3mm inside diameter and replace it all

I see can you advise on a full set to buy and wont make me skint lol?
Title: Re: ok so after trying this & checking that, I think its time I had it looked at.
Post by: Nino on 12 August 2012, 21:33
Quote from: Wazzzer on 12 August 2012, 21:14
you need a pressure test to be 100% sure

How do I do this Wazz?  :undecided:
Title: Re: ok so after trying this & checking that, I think its time I had it looked at.
Post by: jamie1989 on 12 August 2012, 21:42
Fit a catch can job done less than £50.
Title: Re: ok so after trying this & checking that, I think its time I had it looked at.
Post by: Wazzzer on 12 August 2012, 21:57
You need someone who knows what they're doing with pressure tests. They are also called smoke tests. See if any local garages can do it :wink:
Title: Re: ok so after trying this & checking that, I think its time I had it looked at.
Post by: Nino on 12 August 2012, 23:23
Ok cheers :)
Title: Re: ok so after trying this & checking that, I think its time I had it looked at.
Post by: jamie1989 on 12 August 2012, 23:28
For a smoke test go see Craig at gotboost in Bridgend I think it costs around £35 but dont quote me on that.

As above spend £5-6 on 2 meters of 3mm silicone tubing off ebay and change the vacuum pipes from inlet to fbr and recirculating valve.
The breather pipes can be a nightmare when split etc too I wouldnt bother replacing them id just fit a catch can its much cheaper.
Title: Re: ok so after trying this & checking that, I think its time I had it looked at.
Post by: cullygti on 12 August 2012, 23:29
if your really stuck im sure if you arrange with me and jamie we will come and have a look at whats going on if your prepared to drive up and meet us and if you do decide to fit a catch can and you need help give us a shout as long as you come up il help you get it fitted  :wink:
Title: Re: ok so after trying this & checking that, I think its time I had it looked at.
Post by: JimBR on 13 August 2012, 00:01
17705 is pretty infamous. I had it and it was my PCV system leaking. I replaced all the hoses with creation motorsport silicone ones and its been fine since.

Are all the hoses under the inlet oily?
Title: Re: ok so after trying this & checking that, I think its time I had it looked at.
Post by: Nino on 13 August 2012, 00:03
Quote from: cullygti on 12 August 2012, 23:29
if your really stuck im sure if you arrange with me and jamie we will come and have a look at whats going on if your prepared to drive up and meet us and if you do decide to fit a catch can and you need help give us a shout as long as you come up il help you get it fitted  :wink:

To be honest It would be nice If I could drive up to you for you both to take a look im guessing you know what to look for and may just look and go thats it right there lol btw where u based?
Title: Re: ok so after trying this & checking that, I think its time I had it looked at.
Post by: Nino on 13 August 2012, 00:04
Quote from: JimBR on 13 August 2012, 00:01
17705 is pretty infamous. I had it and it was my PCV system leaking. I replaced all the hoses with creation motorsport silicone ones and its been fine since.

Are all the hoses under the inlet oily?

I did check that pipe but it looked fine  :undecided:
Title: Re: ok so after trying this & checking that, I think its time I had it looked at.
Post by: cullygti on 13 August 2012, 00:59
im in ebbw vale and jamie is in aberdare mate  :smiley:
Title: Re: ok so after trying this & checking that, I think its time I had it looked at.
Post by: Nino on 13 August 2012, 07:54
yor both roughly a hour away drive then, i'll keep trying a few things first because I'll have to pop up a day we are all off work  :grin:
Title: Re: ok so after trying this & checking that, I think its time I had it looked at.
Post by: jamie1989 on 13 August 2012, 08:38
Yeah anytime on weekends or evenings im cool with  :cool:
Title: Re: ok so after trying this & checking that, I think its time I had it looked at.
Post by: JimBR on 13 August 2012, 09:03
Mine looked fine when I took them off, there were no obvious splits. They must have been leaking at the joints. The oily mess everywhere is a giveaway.
Title: Re: ok so after trying this & checking that, I think its time I had it looked at.
Post by: Nino on 13 August 2012, 13:29
I couldnt see any oil, althou there is some around the bottom end of my block just below the Termo area, and there is also some on the bottom of the sump near the big intercooler pipe area althou im unsure weather thats oil fromt he drive shaft as thats oily too. I took my Turbo/intercooler pipe off and looked all round it, bent it looking for cracks/holes but nothing. The PCV pipe looked almost brand new to me althou the clips holding it on are the standard *once you remove them you can't re-use them jobs* so I didn't fully remove it for inspection. Am I right in thinking thats the pipe that connects to the inlet?
Title: Re: ok so after trying this & checking that, I think its time I had it looked at.
Post by: Nino on 13 August 2012, 13:58
I just found these on Ebay althou unsure weather they would be anygood? also it says something about may not fit my engine code? AUM.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VW-GOLF-MK4-1-8T-BORA-JETTA-SILICONE-TURBO-BOOST-HOSE-INTAKE-PIPE-KIT-1999-2006-/230717415044?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item35b7d45e84
Title: Re: ok so after trying this & checking that, I think its time I had it looked at.
Post by: cullygti on 13 August 2012, 14:11
just get them from here loads of ppl using these including myself

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VW-GOLF-MK4-1-8T-20V-SILICONE-TURBO-INTAKE-PIPE-AUM-AUQ-/160792629445?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item256ffcd0c5

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VW-GOLF-MK4-1-8T-20V-SILICONE-5-PIECE-BOOST-KIT-AUM-AUQ-/160764236545?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item256e4b9301

might be worth you getting this aswell if you aint going to do a catch can

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Silicone-Crankcase-Breather-Hose-VW-Golf-1-8T-AUM-AUQ-/150834406531?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item231e6e6483
Title: Re: ok so after trying this & checking that, I think its time I had it looked at.
Post by: Rhyso on 13 August 2012, 16:05
Cardiff an hour away?? Wow your MK4 must be broken  :grin: :grin:

Garage up in Merthyr called EuroCar has a smoke test kit; think he charges about £35 too
Title: Re: ok so after trying this & checking that, I think its time I had it looked at.
Post by: cullygti on 13 August 2012, 16:43
i was thinking the same dont take an hour to come from cdiff  :grin:
Title: Re: ok so after trying this & checking that, I think its time I had it looked at.
Post by: rio_gti on 13 August 2012, 17:17
what real good quality vacuum hose is there, thats really hard to squash down so you know it aint gonna collapse etc?

Title: Re: ok so after trying this & checking that, I think its time I had it looked at.
Post by: Nino on 13 August 2012, 18:20
Quote from: Rhyso on 13 August 2012, 16:05
Cardiff an hour away?? Wow your MK4 must be broken  :grin: :grin:

Garage up in Merthyr called EuroCar has a smoke test kit; think he charges about £35 too

I drive so i get 42mpg lmao bar but seriously Im not pushing the car at all i dont want to untill i sort this issue out incase it causes anything else to break, Cully thanks for those links i'll inves when i can afford it :)