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General => General discussion => Topic started by: wentalong on 08 August 2012, 19:58
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Hey All,
This is real off forum tbh, let alone off-topic ;) but atleast its car related.... :rolleyes:
Near me lies an abandoned car, a (what i believe to be) a 65 'Stang convertible (Need to double check with the cars plates).
It's been there for as long as i remember, the first time i saw it ws maybe a year or two ago, on what looks like private land (area is quite fieldy) Tires flat, colour faded, canvas broken (Blue sheet thing placed over the back for some mild protection from rain... although it looks as water tight as tissue paper...) with grass growing up the sides &wheel arches, and that was the first time i saw it, so i imagine it was there a good few years before I saw it to.... Ever since it hasn't moved when I've gone past it (every 4months-ish) and so i do believe it is abandoned/unwanted as there are a umber of cars around it left there to die...
Im going to go the the car in a week or two and ask all the houses around it to see if there are any owners there and if they will sell it, however, Just in case no one around it knows the owner/is the owner, Im wondering what i can do next?
I know i can apply for a V62 and then get a V5 saying im a registered keeper of the car,
But is there any way to become the legal OWNER of the car so the original owner cant turn up one day and ask for it back after i spent ££££'s restoring it?
Cheers Guys :)
Curtis
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Use the search button as its been talked about before with other cars
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its mine paypal me £500 via gift and u can have it :wink: :grin:
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Don't take this the wrong way dude but if it's been sat for years exposed to the elements it's probably a bit far gone.
A friend has redone a dodge charger that needed pretty much all panels and it's pushing the 45k mark.
There's a 60's mustang coupe inthe unit I share having bodywork done and it is a huge job - like unbelievably huge work.
Braver than I am.
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Will get on the search bar nowww, did do a lot of research on google, but nothing was clear on actually receiving an OWNERS title... Just a registered keepers title, :(
I know it probably will be quite weather damaged but the poor things only sitting there un-loved and un-used, and I'd give anything to restore it... (Have an indescribable love and passion for mustangs for some reason?!) And if it is weathered and I do find the owner, I'll hopefully be able to get it for peanuts.... At least that way I will get it under cover... (My nans Ex-Spray shop/street garage) in her back garden :D the things water tight and was built by my dad and his brother many years ago when they started spraying and fixing cars in her back garden (neighbors eventually got pissed off though ;) ) but is well suited to the job of restoring it....
I just wanted to know if you can be given the owners title by the DVLA if no one claims it? The government get owners title when they tow and crush cars... Don't see why I wouldn't be able to?
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I can't offer any advice mate but why not just ring the DVLA or something and ask the experts? They'll be able to tell you what the score is?
I would love to see the progress on this, so if you do get it, update this post so I can follow a project thread :)
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I was thinking to do the same thing this morning but realised I had no minutes left -.- will have to try and do it during lunch when I'm home, also thought about a picture/project thread on this last night... Would be a longgggg thread as there will be a lot I want to do to the car let alone what the car needs done ;) however I'll do it anyway ;) I'll post back on here when I visit the car and see if I get it or not :) *fingers crossed!*
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Why not use the DVLA website and just enter the reg no. ? :rolleyes:
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It would be a good project that! Good luck mate.
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Just got in and managed to give the DVLA a call, I asked about it and was told i could be given a V62 then would get a V5 through that making me the registered keeper of the car, but if the owner came along with proof of purchase I'd have absolutely NO fight against it what so ever and he could claim the vehicle back if he wished... The DVLA will not give out any proof of ownership papers etc.
I asked if the owner was deceased would i be able to then claim ownership through that? No, the ownership passes to the next of Kin...
So, the end result is i will be able to trace the car to someone in the family if the DVLA give me the details on the owner (If none of the people around the car don't own it...) and so will then (I believe) need written consent from the next of kin/owner saying they pass ownership to me and from there i believe i will be the owner (Not sure though...)
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:grin: :grin: pretty sure if they have kept it away from the local scrap man you wont be gettin it :smiley:
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Scrappies don't go around there ;) areas just a small road with houses on one side with fields around it, no point for them ;)
Also, the surrounding cars left to die are really not worth restoring as their new-ish... Hehe the things worth it no matter what, hopelessly in love ;)
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Scrappies don't go around there ;) areas just a small road with houses on one side with fields around it, no point for them ;)
Also, the surrounding cars left to die are really not worth restoring as their new-ish... Hehe the things worth it no matter what, hopelessly in love ;)
no but they are worth money in scrap an you have more chance of an gold medal than gettin that car :grin: :grin:
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Scrappies don't go around there ;) areas just a small road with houses on one side with fields around it, no point for them ;)
Also, the surrounding cars left to die are really not worth restoring as their new-ish... Hehe the things worth it no matter what, hopelessly in love ;)
no but they are worth money in scrap an you have more chance of an gold medal than gettin that car :grin: :grin:
Very true, which is why Im willing to pay owner for the cars value in scrap, or even give him a most likely a MUCH heavier BMW e28 Sitting in the Nan's garage which will have to be removed before the Stang' goes in (If it hopefully does)
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Scrappies don't go around there ;) areas just a small road with houses on one side with fields around it, no point for them ;)
Also, the surrounding cars left to die are really not worth restoring as their new-ish... Hehe the things worth it no matter what, hopelessly in love ;)
no but they are worth money in scrap an you have more chance of an gold medal than gettin that car :grin: :grin:
Very true, which is why Im willing to pay owner for the cars value in scrap, or even give him a most likely a MUCH heavier BMW e28 Sitting in the Nan's garage which will have to be removed before the Stang' goes in (If it hopefully does)
scrap value on a mustang :grin: :grin: or a trade for an old e28 these ideas are worse than the bodykit you want for your mk4 :grin: :grin:
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Scrappies don't go around there ;) areas just a small road with houses on one side with fields around it, no point for them ;)
Also, the surrounding cars left to die are really not worth restoring as their new-ish... Hehe the things worth it no matter what, hopelessly in love ;)
no but they are worth money in scrap an you have more chance of an gold medal than gettin that car :grin: :grin:
Very true, which is why Im willing to pay owner for the cars value in scrap, or even give him a most likely a MUCH heavier BMW e28 Sitting in the Nan's garage which will have to be removed before the Stang' goes in (If it hopefully does)
scrap value on a mustang :grin: :grin: or a trade for an old e28 these ideas are worse than the bodykit you want for your mk4 :grin: :grin:
Mwahahaaa I liked it! :wink: dont see why the guy would have a problem with me giving him the money he would get from scrapping it, or replacing it with another car if he really wanted me to? either way the car is a classic and it's not worth having it scrapped :cry:
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Scrappies don't go around there ;) areas just a small road with houses on one side with fields around it, no point for them ;)
Also, the surrounding cars left to die are really not worth restoring as their new-ish... Hehe the things worth it no matter what, hopelessly in love ;)
no but they are worth money in scrap an you have more chance of an gold medal than gettin that car :grin: :grin:
Very true, which is why Im willing to pay owner for the cars value in scrap, or even give him a most likely a MUCH heavier BMW e28 Sitting in the Nan's garage which will have to be removed before the Stang' goes in (If it hopefully does)
scrap value on a mustang :grin: :grin: or a trade for an old e28 these ideas are worse than the bodykit you want for your mk4 :grin: :grin:
Mwahahaaa I liked it! :wink: dont see why the guy would have a problem with me giving him the money he would get from scrapping it, or replacing it with another car if he really wanted me to? either way the car is a classic and it's not worth having it scrapped :cry:
as it will be worth more in bits than scrap value :smiley:
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ohhhh very true.... I'll still get down on my knees and beg... Then pay whatever he want for it... Within a reasonable range :tongue:
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ohhhh very true.... I'll still get down on my knees and beg... Then pay whatever he want for it... Within a reasonable range :tongue:
think you should just forget this pipe dream as said any resto needs buckets of cash :smiley:
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It sounds like a very good idea to try and save this car, you need to get some pics up!
Would the dvla give you the details of the current registered owner just like that?
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ohhhh very true.... I'll still get down on my knees and beg... Then pay whatever he want for it... Within a reasonable range :tongue:
think you should just forget this pipe dream as said any resto needs buckets of cash :smiley:
Not until i ask the owner, not worth letting a car like this die and not know if i could have saved it :smiley:
Davey: Thanks for agreeing with my hopes hehee :smiley: will DEFINITELY get some pictures up if/when i get the beauty! :)
I've heard they can if you ask to become a registered holder of the car because you have to put up adverts in the local paper and call them to ask etc... So i assume so?
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Would the dvla give you the details of the current registered owner just like that?
From what I remember they will, if you have a valid reason for asking, write a letter with cheque/postal order for £5 admin fee it used to be.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
'wentalong' all the best with it, hope it works out and the car can be saved
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sometimes you just gotta do it..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsaYK9P6m68 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsaYK9P6m68)
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Im sure I read somewhere that when you Submit the forms the dvla write to the registered keeper and only if they reply saying you can have it will they issue the v5 to you, if they get no response then you can't do anything, I may have dreamt this though.
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sometimes you just gotta do it..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsaYK9P6m68 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsaYK9P6m68)
Damn right.... If you had love for the car you'd do it no matter what... Barry's just heartless... :wink:
JimR: The way it works is (From my understanding):
- You see the car
- If you feel its abandoned ask around for the owner
- If you can find the owner and its on private land ask the landowner for details of the car/owner (the guy may have done a runner and built up loads of unpaid storage bills on the land)
- If no luck still report it as being off road/tax being out date to the DVLA
- Then ask for a v62 (I think this is the form which lets you apply for becoming the registered keeper)
- Show you have made an effort to find the owner (Put ads in local newspapers i.e:'1000BC Flintstone rocket ship owner: Willing to buy car, if not will become keeper and take car... Contact me... Blah Blah Blah...'
- I think they then give you a V5 which says at the top that it doesn't prove you an owner just a registered keeper, think of it as you babysitting a kid, and as soon as the parents come home/if they come home, they can take the kid away from you and there's nothing you can do...
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I was thinking to do the same thing this morning but realised I had no minutes left
This tells me you should have no business trying to restore a Mustang however much you like it. You cannot afford it and it will ruin you.
Dream that dream by all means, but I think you have no chance of completing this project. :lipsrsealed:
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I was thinking to do the same thing this morning but realised I had no minutes left
This tells me you should have no business trying to restore a Mustang however much you like it. You cannot afford it and it will ruin you.
Dream that dream by all means, but I think you have no chance of completing this project. :lipsrsealed:
I had no minutes because i used them, didn't run out of credit (Im on a contract, and used them on business calls before i left for work and cant re-add minutes until the contract rolls over again at the end of the month) :laugh:
Everyone seems to be forgetting, i havent fully inspected the car yet, there could be near to no damage (Trusty pount shop blue sheet may have worked for god knows how many years :shocked: ) or it could fall to pieces from rust at the touch of a finger, either way, If I was to get the car, it would be finished, whether it be slowly due to lack of funds or not, either way, money will be spent on it when the cash is there, sometimes I get a flow of cash in one week and others I wont get much to spend on things, it depends, so believe me or not when I say, If I do get the car, To the best quality possible, It will be restored.
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sometimes you just gotta do it..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsaYK9P6m68 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsaYK9P6m68)
Damn right.... If you had love for the car you'd do it no matter what... Barry's just heartless... :wink:
barry is just bein honest sorry but as said its costly :wink: an thats not a good phone contract that wont let you go over your allowance :grin:
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sometimes you just gotta do it..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsaYK9P6m68 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsaYK9P6m68)
Damn right.... If you had love for the car you'd do it no matter what... Barry's just heartless... :wink:
barry is just bein honest sorry but as said its costly :wink: an thats not a good phone contract that wont let you go over your allowance :grin:
Yeah It's true, but tbh even if it is taken and not restored at all, atleast its in a new, dry home, where it awakes the next prince to give it the kiss of life, if not me :grin:
And the contract sucks when you need to call someone, but glad im not going £80 over a month anymore :rolleyes: :lipsrsealed:
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Mustang rebuilds are a waste of time and money these days, by the time your properly done, you can easily wave goodbye to 20 to 40k where you could buy in a fresh rebuild from the states for under 18k
A car left outside to the elements would most likely be a 6 cylinder notchback, in which case I really wouldn't bother, anything later than a 71 Mach 1 is not worth considering, bit like buying a mk 3 really
Get some pics up! If it says Boss anywhere on it, I'll double what you pay for it :evil:
Thom
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Mustang rebuilds are a waste of time and money these days, by the time your properly done, you can easily wave goodbye to 20 to 40k where you could buy in a fresh rebuild from the states for under 18k
A car left outside to the elements would most likely be a 6 cylinder notchback, in which case I really wouldn't bother, anything later than a 71 Mach 1 is not worth considering, bit like buying a mk 3 really
Get some pics up! If it says Boss anywhere on it, I'll double what you pay for it :evil:
Thom
Its true that 'Stangs and all other actual 'Classic Muscle Cars' can be brought re-build from the US cheaper than doing a refurb over in the UK but at the same time, this car couldddd be okay and need little work... I'm yet to properly check it out and so can't verify the age and model for definate, but your probably right about the lump in it, could be a 289ci but I won't know until I check :P
If it is boss I think I'm gunna stay with it untill the owner sells it so no one else can take it! ;) hahaa I don't think it is however!
Pictures will be put up (Regardless of if I manage to buy it or not) :) sometime in 2 weeks when I'm home :)
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After a bit more research on Gooooooogle, I saw a few images of the later 70's Mustang 'Verts and they seemed to have jogged my memory a bit with the Accused abandoned car, Not too sure if its the car for sure but seems to look real similar to my eyes... Also the Pierre Bronze/Gold colour was available as an option when the cars were first brought out...
More images here:
http://www.cars-on-line.com/43255.html