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Model specific boards => Golf mk4 => Topic started by: Buckers on 01 August 2012, 23:27

Title: Newbie 2.0 GTI
Post by: Buckers on 01 August 2012, 23:27
Hi all I wanted a second car that was able to overtake as my new SMAX is sluggish and nothing compared to my 2010 Dodge RAM that I was made to sell!

Anyway!  I picked up a V reg 2.0 GTI for £500, all seems okish faults that I discovered were:

Brakes judder slightly
When pulling away at low speeds I get the same juddering feeling
Boot won't open from the outside
Clutch feels slightly high but nothing untoward

Also I noticed that the oil seemed very new looking which surprised me a Little tbh.

Any quick fixes or parts I could pre empt before I take it to the garage would be much appreciated.

Admittedly I didn't research the model much but 115 BHP seems a little under powered for a car that boasts a GTI badge?  Do drop in airfilters change this at all?
Title: Re: Newbie 2.0 GTI
Post by: Nino on 01 August 2012, 23:33
Brakes judder slightly - I would say check your Discs could be warped.
When pulling away at low speeds I get the same juddering feeling - Again could be warped discs.
Boot won't open from the outside -  Common mk4 fault, require new lock.
Clutch feels slightly high but nothing untoward - Sounds like the clutch could be going should be a low bite.

Also I noticed that the oil seemed very new looking which surprised me a Little tbh. - Might of recently been serviced :)

Admittedly I didn't research the model much but 115 BHP seems a little under powered for a car that boasts a GTI badge?  Do drop in airfilters change this at all? - the 2ltr GTI is slow to be honest mate, a pippercros pannel filter usally add about 30% more air into the engine which for my 1.8T did help with response abit :)
Title: Re: Newbie 2.0 GTI
Post by: dom on 01 August 2012, 23:33
Hi all I wanted a second car that was able to overtake as my new SMAX is sluggish and nothing compared to my 2010 Dodge RAM that I was made to sell!

Anyway!  I picked up a V reg 2.0 GTI for £500, all seems okish faults that I discovered were:

Brakes judder slightly
When pulling away at low speeds I get the same juddering feeling
Boot won't open from the outside
Clutch feels slightly high but nothing untoward

Also I noticed that the oil seemed very new looking which surprised me a Little tbh.

Any quick fixes or parts I could pre empt before I take it to the garage would be much appreciated.

Admittedly I didn't research the model much but 115 BHP seems a little under powered for a car that boasts a GTI badge?  Do drop in airfilters change this at all?

Your right it is underpowered and doesn't deserve to be called a Gti at all, although for £500 I guess you can't grumble too much.

The boot is a common fault, the mechanism can seize. Try spraying some wd40 in the lock and see if that frees it, does your rear washer work? The piping often comes apart and it leaks onto the microswitch in the handle.

Are the discs warped or are any of the brakes binding?

I wouldn't worry about the clutch unless it is slipping.

I'm guessing fresh oil isn't a problem? :grin:

Nino beat me to it - Bugger!
Title: Re: Newbie 2.0 GTI
Post by: dom on 01 August 2012, 23:34
And a performance filter will do nothing to aid the power :wink:
Title: Re: Newbie 2.0 GTI
Post by: golfyste on 01 August 2012, 23:35
.....the call our golf 2slow for a reason  :laugh:
IMO I would sell it and get a 1.8t

As to the other things
The 2.0l is know or eatin oil so keep it topped up
Discs may be warped or worn? Will have to just check
Also check your engine mounts and all yor subframe bolts etc (anything that can come loose)
As for the bot will have to strip the handle most like but Ido t know
And for the clutch maybe try bleeding it if. It it may just be the clutch that is worn
Title: Re: Newbie 2.0 GTI
Post by: richw911 on 01 August 2012, 23:40
See here : http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=106940.0


The oil could look fresh because it uses so much it being constantly topped up  :lipsrsealed:
Title: Re: Newbie 2.0 GTI
Post by: Buckers on 02 August 2012, 00:01
Jeez guy's thanks!  warped brakes is something I've had before and yes it feels the same, is it worth getting top notch brakes or just get the standard, seen lots on the bay.

The boots a pain though, I didn't want to offend anyone by saying it has no right to be called a GTI (even new)  But I was used to a 5.7 Hemi @ 400bhp so everything feels slow at the moment :evil: :cry:

I mainly got it to teach the frau to drive and I refused to do it in a corsa etc!
Title: Re: Newbie 2.0 GTI
Post by: Nino on 02 August 2012, 07:55
Jeez guy's thanks!  warped brakes is something I've had before and yes it feels the same, is it worth getting top notch brakes or just get the standard, seen lots on the bay.

The boots a pain though, I didn't want to offend anyone by saying it has no right to be called a GTI (even new)  But I was used to a 5.7 Hemi @ 400bhp so everything feels slow at the moment :evil: :cry:

I mainly got it to teach the frau to drive and I refused to do it in a corsa etc!

I wouldnt bother with ebay brakes unless ur buying brembo but unless u plan on taking that car to iver 300bhp id just get stock replacements, also change your brake pads while your at it, btw your new GTI is your new money pit, welcome to the forum btw :)
Title: Re: Newbie 2.0 GTI
Post by: dom on 02 August 2012, 08:42
Yup, standard replacements will be fine. Eurocarparts sponsor the forum so you can get a 25% discount on parts, see their section at the bottom of the homepage for more info :wink:
Title: Re: Newbie 2.0 GTI
Post by: GTi_James on 02 August 2012, 09:02
Jeez guy's thanks!  warped brakes is something I've had before and yes it feels the same, is it worth getting top notch brakes or just get the standard, seen lots on the bay.

The boots a pain though, I didn't want to offend anyone by saying it has no right to be called a GTI (even new)  But I was used to a 5.7 Hemi @ 400bhp so everything feels slow at the moment :evil: :cry:

I mainly got it to teach the frau to drive and I refused to do it in a corsa etc!

Frau? do i spy another southerner? or are you dutch?
Title: Re: Newbie 2.0 GTI
Post by: Buckers on 16 September 2012, 21:22
I'm a southerner, Swindon, but live in Dorset AND miss my RAM like a hole in the head.  The golf is beginning to replace my loss though, well developments:

Its on the road ALL 4 brakes and pads done, a few other tiny bits and bobs £450 later its taxed Mot'd and I'm using it to drive to work in.

Would a drop in filter be as good or a waste of time or would below be disirable?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/K-N-57i-INDUCTION-KIT-57-0362-VW-GOLF-IV-2-115BHP-98-04-/150901626538?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&fits=Car+Make%3AVW%7CModel%3AGolf%7CPlat_Gen%3AMK+IV%7CCars+Type%3A2.0&hash=item23227016aa#ht_1707wt_952

How easy are the speakers to change?  The left isn't working also can't remember but are there speakers in the rear?  If so they don't work either!  Whilst on that subject, as much as the original tape deck is awesome, anyone have any recommendations on a decent IPOD compatable bluetooth head unit for a reasonable price?

Any other decent mods I can do for reasonable cost bearing in mind it cost me £500 + £450 repairs.


Title: Re: Newbie 2.0 GTI
Post by: barrym381 on 16 September 2012, 21:47
yeah a for sale sign in the window  :wink: an buy a proper gti (1.8t of coarse  :grin:)
Title: Re: Newbie 2.0 GTI
Post by: Buckers on 16 September 2012, 22:22
yeah a for sale sign in the window  :wink: an buy a proper gti (1.8t of coarse  :grin:)

 :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:

Yep fine I can accept that I didn't research quite enough, why go for a 1.8T when would it be recommended to get a V5, 4Motion etc?  Baring in mid I've had 38 mpg on a run it the 2.0.  :nerd:
Title: Re: Newbie 2.0 GTI
Post by: barrym381 on 16 September 2012, 22:37
yeah a for sale sign in the window  :wink: an buy a proper gti (1.8t of coarse  :grin:)

 :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:

Yep fine I can accept that I didn't research quite enough, why go for a 1.8T when would it be recommended to get a V5, 4Motion etc?  Baring in mid I've had 38 mpg on a run it the 2.0.  :nerd:
if you want a car with a drinkin habit buy the v5 or v6  :wink: an the 1.8t is a tad more reliable than the 2.0 and is easier to tune  :smiley:
Title: Re: Newbie 2.0 GTI
Post by: golfyste on 16 September 2012, 23:15
IMHO I think if you want a decent car with a bit of poke and a awesome sound but arnt to bothered about modifying get te v6 4motion

If you want something that you plan on modifying to 250bhp+ get the 1.8t

And if you want to be seen as If your doing 2mph (or atuck in the garagebroken down) as the guys in the v6 and 1.8t fly past then get a 2.0L  :laugh:
Title: Re: Newbie 2.0 GTI
Post by: GTi_James on 17 September 2012, 08:39
in other words, money sucker for the V6, oil guzzler for the 2L and deep pockets for the 1.8T? the 1.8T is more exciting though....you never know whats gonna happen next  :lipsrsealed:

and i managed 489miles on a full tank before the the light came on in a 1.8T :smug:
Title: Re: Newbie 2.0 GTI
Post by: barrym381 on 17 September 2012, 08:41
in other words, money sucker for the V6, oil guzzler for the 2L and deep pockets for the 1.8T? the 1.8T is more exciting though....you never know whats gonna happen next  :lipsrsealed:

and i managed 489miles on a full tank before the the light came on in a 1.8T :smug:
guess who was driving like a hairdresser then  :grin: :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: Newbie 2.0 GTI
Post by: GTi_James on 17 September 2012, 08:45
in other words, money sucker for the V6, oil guzzler for the 2L and deep pockets for the 1.8T? the 1.8T is more exciting though....you never know whats gonna happen next  :lipsrsealed:

and i managed 489miles on a full tank before the the light came on in a 1.8T :smug:
guess who was driving like a hairdresser then  :grin: :grin: :grin:

 :whistle: i got my moneys worth  :drool:
Title: Re: Newbie 2.0 GTI
Post by: Buckers on 17 September 2012, 18:47
489 miles that's bloody good!  My Dodge Ram (below) had a 100ltr tank and I managed 500 miles! Only doing 65-70 mpg.

What BHP + 0-60 do the standard 1.8T, V5 and V6 4motion return.  My Ram used to give me 400 BHP with 6.0 secs to 60.  I was after something that could replicate that.


(http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/zz170/Buckers31/IMG_0337.jpg)
Title: Re: Newbie 2.0 GTI
Post by: barrym381 on 17 September 2012, 20:35
489 miles that's bloody good!  My Dodge Ram (below) had a 100ltr tank and I managed 500 miles! Only doing 65-70 mpg.

What BHP + 0-60 do the standard 1.8T, V5 and V6 4motion return.  My Ram used to give me 400 BHP with 6.0 secs to 60.  I was after something that could replicate that.


(http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/zz170/Buckers31/IMG_0337.jpg)
1.8T 150bhp or 180bhp depends on year, V5=170bhp and V6 4motion 204bhp
Title: Re: Newbie 2.0 GTI
Post by: GTi_James on 18 September 2012, 08:41
it was literally granny driving at 60mph reason being i went from suffolk to cornwel and had a blow out sofitted the spare wheel and me being a noob forgot it was full size even when i had it up next to each other  :embarrassed:

if you want power phone up Rtech or have a look at the build threads  :nerd:
Title: Re: Newbie 2.0 GTI
Post by: barrym381 on 18 September 2012, 09:11
it was literally granny driving at 60mph reason being i went from suffolk to cornwel and had a blow out sofitted the spare wheel and me being a noob forgot it was full size even when i had it up next to each other  :embarrassed:

if you want power phone up Rtech or have a look at the build threads  :nerd:
:grin: :grin: will r-tech touch an oil muncher as there isnt much point tryin to tune 1 of these  :smiley:
Title: Re: Newbie 2.0 GTI
Post by: GTi_James on 18 September 2012, 10:39
im sure they wouldnt mind a challenge, read somewhere they remapped a oil converted golf, myt be on their website tbh
Title: Re: Newbie 2.0 GTI
Post by: barrym381 on 18 September 2012, 11:04
im sure they wouldnt mind a challenge, read somewhere they remapped a oil converted golf, myt be on their website tbh
thats more than a challenge  :grin: :grin: not worth throwin money at a 2slow end of  :grin: