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General => General discussion => Topic started by: shrek paul on 19 July 2012, 21:53
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hi all im new and was just woundering what the bhp is on a mk3 2l 8v gti
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Seriously?
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hello , welcome and not a lot or enough :grin:
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It has a massive 115bhp :grin:
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115.
Although now, probably 100 or so.
I think that makes power to weight about .000000065hp. :smiley:
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It goes better than the bhp figure suggests though.
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thanks thought it was more than that for some reason :huh:
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this diesel has got 2400 bhp the petrol one must have more
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115.
Although now, probably 100 or so.
I think that makes power to weight about .000000065hp. :smiley:
Is that including the VW's weight reduction RUST system that came standard on MK3's?
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thanks thought it was more than that for some reason :huh:
The 16v is more powerful and is the mk3 of choice, get over to the mk3 section of the forum and get some pictures up and don't listen to the haters, the 8v is a perfectly capable GTi and no more prone to rust than many other cars of this age.
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some one wanted a crosser and as i had one but not used it in like a year he did a swap :smug:
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Sounds like he got a good deal!
Seriously, an 8v even in v good nick is still only worth about £600
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thanks thought it was more than that for some reason :huh:
The 16v is more powerful and is the mk3 of choice, get over to the mk3 section of the forum and get some pictures up and don't listen to the haters, the 8v is a perfectly capable GTi and no more prone to rust than many other cars of this age.
I like many Mk3 owners will stick up for the Mk3.. but come one at least make things believable, there is a line and you crossed it! :grin:
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thanks thought it was more than that for some reason :huh:
The 16v is more powerful, however the VR6 is the mk3 of choice, get over to the mk3 section of the forum and get some pictures up and don't listen to the haters, the 8v is a perfectly capable car and no more prone to rust than many other cars of this age.
Fixed :wink:
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the bike i paid £350 for the bike 6 years ago :grin:
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Sounds like he got a good deal!
Seriously, an 8v even in v good nick is still only worth about £600
I had someone wanting to buy mine for £2000 without wheels.
there worth as much as people will pay.
I've cammed mine and raced my mates 16v. Nothing in it. Might of helped that I was in his slipstream but he didn't pull away :wink:
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115 bhp but like a gazillion ft/lbs of torque :grin:. I just got my 8v on the road and after reading on here for the past year I expected it to be dog slow but its not to bad at all. Enough to have some fun in.
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Sounds like he got a good deal!
Seriously, an 8v even in v good nick is still only worth about £600
I had someone wanting to buy mine for £2000 without wheels.
there worth as much as people will pay.
I've cammed mine and raced my mates 16v. Nothing in it. Might of helped that I was in his slipstream but he didn't pull away :wink:
Then he cams his, so you get in your VR6 :grin:
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my other car is a 4.1 v8 discovery :evil:
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Sounds like he got a good deal!
Seriously, an 8v even in v good nick is still only worth about £600
I had someone wanting to buy mine for £2000 without wheels.
there worth as much as people will pay.
I've cammed mine and raced my mates 16v. Nothing in it. Might of helped that I was in his slipstream but he didn't pull away :wink:
Then he cams his, so you get in your VR6 :grin:
Indeed, also factoring in that yours has only done like 30,000 miles, its gonna be worth a tad more than one with 150k Mr Tweed. :wink:
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Sounds like he got a good deal!
Seriously, an 8v even in v good nick is still only worth about £600
I had someone wanting to buy mine for £2000 without wheels.
there worth as much as people will pay.
I've cammed mine and raced my mates 16v. Nothing in it. Might of helped that I was in his slipstream but he didn't pull away :wink:
Then he cams his, so you get in your VR6 :grin:
Hahaha always I winner :grin:
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got some pic up on the mk3 page
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thanks thought it was more than that for some reason :huh:
The 16v is more powerful and is the mk3 of choice, get over to the mk3 section of the forum and get some pictures up and don't listen to the haters, the 8v is a perfectly capable GTi and no more prone to rust than many other cars of this age.
I like many Mk3 owners will stick up for the Mk3.. but come one at least make things believable, there is a line and you crossed it! :grin:
Yeah but mine will drive across that line , not roll across on empty.
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The 16v is more powerful and is the mk3 of choice, get over to the mk3 section of the forum and get some pictures up and don't listen to the haters, the 8v is a perfectly capable GTi and no more prone to rust than many other cars of this age.
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Not very capable when a bog standard 1.6 corolla is faster...
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8v is a good daliy cheap to run and fun to drive 16v and VR not much between them from my experience other than it costs more to do it in a VR and lets face it you can have 350bhp but when and where can you use it on Uk roads apart from off the lights and down some duel carriage way and thats about it before the plod catch you.
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Yeah but mine will drive across that line , not roll across on empty.
You may be new to this driving milarky so ill educate you, when that white stick starts touching the red bit you go to these things called a petrol station... still with me?... you put a green nozzel that says super unleaded (you drive a vr so obviously not a tight arse gti owner) and squeeze till a required petrol volume has been reached. You pay and cross the line still ahead of a 8v :cool: :grin: :kiss:
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Yeah but mine will drive across that line , not roll across on empty.
You may be new to this driving milarky so ill educate you, when that white stick starts touching the red bit you go to these things called a petrol station... still with me?... you put a green nozzel that says super unleaded (you drive a vr so obviously not a tight arse gti owner) and squeeze till a required petrol volume has been reached. You pay and cross the line still ahead of a 8v :cool: :grin: :kiss:
Your obviously a much better and more experienced driver than me.
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The 16v is more powerful and is the mk3 of choice, get over to the mk3 section of the forum and get some pictures up and don't listen to the haters, the 8v is a perfectly capable GTi and no more prone to rust than many other cars of this age.
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Not very capable when a bog standard 1.6 corolla is faster...
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But i don't want a bog standard 1.6 corolla and i don't want to go really really fast because thats how you lose your licence...i assume you have one of those.
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Yeah but mine will drive across that line , not roll across on empty.
You may be new to this driving milarky so ill educate you, when that white stick starts touching the red bit you go to these things called a petrol station... still with me?... you put a green nozzel that says super unleaded (you drive a vr so obviously not a tight arse gti owner) and squeeze till a required petrol volume has been reached. You pay and cross the line still ahead of a 8v :cool: :grin: :kiss:
Your obviously a much better and more experienced captain than me.
Yes, yes i am :grin:
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8v will be ok for now its just a run around as my toy is a discovery 300 v8 thats running 4.1L and around 350bhp can wheelspin all 4 wheels
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oh heres a surprise another thread starting out with a mk3 question and ending with mk3 bashing :rolleyes:
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Mainly by those driving a mk3..... :grin:
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oh heres a surprise another thread starting out with a mk3 question and ending with mk3 bashing :rolleyes:
Let it go mate, its a never ending argument that has no winners.
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115 bhp but like a gazillion ft/lbs of torque
But with that bhp firgure, that torque is only available for a moment until the engine runs out of huff.
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oh heres a surprise another thread starting out with a mk3 question and ending with mk3 bashing :rolleyes:
Let it go mate, its a never ending argument that has no winners.
lol I dont take it seriously, if I didnt I wouldnt drive a mk3 :grin:
though I do like to think there is a winner as it clearly bothers others more than it bothers us :evil:
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oh heres a surprise another thread starting out with a mk3 question and ending with mk3 bashing :rolleyes:
Let it go mate, its a never ending argument that has no winners.
lol I dont take it seriously, if I didnt I wouldnt drive a mk3 :grin:
though I do like to think there is a winner as it clearly bothers others more than it bothers us :evil:
You lot rise to the bait quite nicely, so yeah, it clearly bothers someone.
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Ain't there a mk4 gti 8v?
That's so bad no one even bothers to talk about it, atleast the mk3 gti 8v still gets talked about :grin:
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Ain't there a mk4 gti 8v?
That's so bad no one even bothers to talk about it, atleast the mk3 gti 8v still gets talked about :grin:
The 2.0 8v Mk4 was so bad that no-one bothered to buy it, hence why no-one talks about it :grin:
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The 16v is more powerful and is the mk3 of choice, get over to the mk3 section of the forum and get some pictures up and don't listen to the haters, the 8v is a perfectly capable GTi and no more prone to rust than many other cars of this age.
Not very capable when a bog standard 1.6 corolla is faster...
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But i don't want a bog standard 1.6 corolla and i don't want to go really really fast because thats how you lose your licence...i assume you have one of those.
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My comment was regarding the perfectly capable Gti...you could buy a top of the range 1.6 if spec is an issue...most 1.6 / 1.8's of any make would keep up with it....I've driven nothing but mk3's for the last 7 years...I'm a fan to say the least but it just doesn't drive like a Gti...
I have a clean full licence for the last 13 years and just because you have a powerful car does t mean you drive around everywhere like a lunatic...
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MK3 2.0 8v 113bhp 0-60 9.9 seconds, top speed 123mph. MK4 2.0 8v 113bhp 0-60 10.2 seconds, top speed 121mph.
MK3 2.0 16v 148bhp 0-60 8.1 seconds, top speed 134mph. MK4 1.8t 150bhp 0-60 8.2 seconds, top speed 134mph
MK3 2.8 vr6 12v 172bhp 0-60 7.6 seconds, top speed 139mph. MK4 1.8t 180bhp 0-60 7.6 seconds, top speed 138mph
MK3 2.9 vr6 12v 188bhp 0-60 7.1 seconds, top speed 146mph. MK4 2.8 vr6 24v 4motion 201bhp 0-60 6.9 seconds, top speed 146mph.
I'm not really seeing where the whole MK3 being slow or being a boat thing comes from, as in my opinion, with like for like bhp figures, the MK4 is no faster.
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MK3 2.0 8v 113bhp 0-60 9.9 seconds, top speed 123mph. MK4 2.0 8v 113bhp 0-60 10.2 seconds, top speed 121mph.
MK3 2.0 16v 148bhp 0-60 8.1 seconds, top speed 134mph. MK4 1.8t 150bhp 0-60 8.2 seconds, top speed 134mph
MK3 2.8 vr6 12v 172bhp 0-60 7.6 seconds, top speed 139mph. MK4 1.8t 180bhp 0-60 7.6 seconds, top speed 138mph
MK3 2.9 vr6 12v 188bhp 0-60 7.1 seconds, top speed 146mph. MK4 2.8 vr6 24v 4motion 201bhp 0-60 6.9 seconds, top speed 146mph.
I'm not really seeing where the whole MK3 being slow or being a boat thing comes from, as in my opinion, with like for like bhp figures, the MK4 is no faster.
Neither are fantastic performance cars, they are both heavy and don't handle well out of the box. However the Mk4 has much more scope for tuning than any of the MK3s.
For example; my 1.8T is running somewhere in the region of 215bhp & 250lb/ft and all it has taken is little more than a remap and exhaust. To see that kind of power gain from any of the Mk3 engines will cost you big money, Glen chucked a significant amount of money at his ABF and didn't break the 200bhp barrier.
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And the Mk3 never had the 2.9 VR either. :wink:
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And the Mk3 never had the 2.9 VR either. :wink:
Sorry, thought that they put it in the syncro, must have been misinformed.
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And the Mk3 never had the 2.9 VR either. :wink:
Sorry, thought that they put it in the syncro, must have been misinformed.
You was not :wink: :wink:
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My bad! I forgot about that one, sorry!!! :embarassed:
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The 16v is more powerful and is the mk3 of choice, get over to the mk3 section of the forum and get some pictures up and don't listen to the haters, the 8v is a perfectly capable GTi and no more prone to rust than many other cars of this age.
Not very capable when a bog standard 1.6 corolla is faster...
But i don't want a bog standard 1.6 corolla and i don't want to go really really fast because thats how you lose your licence...i assume you have one of those.
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My comment was regarding the perfectly capable Gti...you could buy a top of the range 1.6 if spec is an issue...most 1.6 / 1.8's of any make would keep up with it....I've driven nothing but mk3's for the last 7 years...I'm a fan to say the least but it just doesn't drive like a Gti...
I have a clean full licence for the last 13 years and just because you have a powerful car does t mean you drive around everywhere like a lunatic...
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This argument has been done to death and i've had a full clean licence for over 22 years now and i do sometimes drive like a lunatic, if you don't enjoy a bit of spirited driving then the golf GTi is not for you and i do count the mk3 8v in this, once you slap on some decent shocks it handles pretty well and no one outside of the 'Golf' universe has any clue what the difference is between an 8v/16v/vr6 so to 99.9% of road users i have the lowest, coolest and fastest golf GTi on the planet.. :grin:
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I had all 3 of the mk3s 16v,VR and 8v in that order all good in there own different ways my little 8v anniversary was not the fastest out the 3 but it was still fun to drive plus it turned heads where ever it went and it was 110% relaible still miss the old gurl...
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8v will be ok for now its just a run around as my toy is a discovery 300 v8 thats running 4.1L and around 350bhp can wheelspin all 4 wheels
you like boats then, had a few discoverys and allways found them way to wobbley and i'm to good at killing the drivetrain, gimmie a 90 with a bmw 6 cyl tho :evil:
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3 of my mates who are VW mechanics say the best engine they would choose from is the 8v's because they are solid and easy to work on. i could agree too!
aye the rest have more BHP but sometimes its more than just figures. i will admit though that the 1.8t is the most tunable and best sounding of the lot.
put that engine in the mk2/3 and its a massive winner!
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3 of my mates who are VW mechanics say the best engine they would choose from is the 8v's because they are solid and easy to work on. i could agree too!
aye the rest have more BHP but sometimes its more than just figures. i will admit though that the 1.8t is the most tunable and best sounding of the lot.
put that engine in the mk2/3 and its a massive winner!
Just because some spanner monkey says it's easy to work on, doesn't make it better. All are solid, so some may be a challenge to the brain for some to work on, but that's progress.
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3 of my mates who are VW mechanics say the best engine they would choose from is the 8v's because they are solid and easy to work on. i could agree too!
aye the rest have more BHP but sometimes its more than just figures. i will admit though that the 1.8t is the most tunable and best sounding of the lot.
put that engine in the mk2/3 and its a massive winner!
Just because some spanner monkey says it's easy to work on, doesn't make it better. All are solid, so some may be a challenge to the brain for some to work on, but that's progress.
true but for sheer reliability they say its the best engine.
they used to run and own one of the fastest street legal drag cars in the 90's using nothing but 8V engines and a beatle on its original engine with thier own garage who specialise in 8V engines and building campers & beatles so i always go on what they say.
again though if i had the choice it would be the 1.8t engine to tune and not the 8V. pretty cheap and easy to find engines.
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Don't think the 8v is any more reliable than the 16v...most of the problems with the mk3 don't boil down to engine problems....coil, distrib, ) leads, sensors etc are common to fail on both..
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Don't think the 8v is any more reliable than the 16v...most of the problems with the mk3 don't boil down to engine problems....coil, distrib, ) leads, sensors etc are common to fail on both..
I have had more miles out of 8v engines over 16v engines, they do have a better life span as they rev lower and have less moving parts etc etc.
A 16v engine will go 150k + before a rebuild so its not sh!t by any standards, but Ive had 8v engines on 200k on the same head gasket and seals.....
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3 of my mates who are VW mechanics say the best engine they would choose from is the 8v's because they are solid and easy to work on. i could agree too!
aye the rest have more BHP but sometimes its more than just figures. i will admit though that the 1.8t is the most tunable and best sounding of the lot.
put that engine in the mk2/3 and its a massive winner!
Most tunable.....yes......best sounding......no
A VR6 sounds better, and you dont need to put a big exhaust or a dump valve on it.
Didn't know there was a mk3 syncro. Learn summin' new every day.
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This thread is captivating but entirely exhausting. :laugh:
Doesn't life have substantial depth, enough to warrant not going around pointing out everyone else's shortcomings and or supposed 'wrong' decisions?
All it ever does, is serve to make the aggressors look stupid and/or neanderthal and the victims become uneasy. I say lay off the verbal aggro and take you bad energy out on a punch bag (not the missus :shocked:)
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This thread is captivating but entirely exhausting. :laugh:
Doesn't life have substantial depth, enough to warrant not going around pointing out everyone else's shortcomings and or supposed 'wrong' decisions?
All it ever does, is serve to make the aggressors look stupid and/or neanderthal and the victims become uneasy. I say lay off the verbal aggro and take you bad energy out on a punch bag (not the missus :shocked:)
Oh it's not that bad.......... :rolleyes: You need to look at some older threads. :laugh: Especially in Dub rides.
Oh and your car is not as fast as mine... disagree with me and we have a problem, I only have a missus, no punch bag here. Just kicked the dogs and punched a wall. :evil:
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This thread is captivating but entirely exhausting. :laugh:
Doesn't life have substantial depth, enough to warrant not going around pointing out everyone else's shortcomings and or supposed 'wrong' decisions?
All it ever does, is serve to make the aggressors look stupid and/or neanderthal and the victims become uneasy. I say lay off the verbal aggro and take you bad energy out on a punch bag (not the missus :shocked:)
Oh it's not that bad.......... :rolleyes: You need to look at some older threads. :laugh: Especially in Dub rides.
Oh and your car is not as fast as mine... disagree with me and we have a problem, I only have a missus, no punch bag here. Just kicked the dogs and punched a wall. :evil:
A double handed power wank is equally good at excreting (lol) bad energy, if you wanna save your knuckles.
Ps. Your car is a heap.
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This thread is captivating but entirely exhausting. :laugh:
Doesn't life have substantial depth, enough to warrant not going around pointing out everyone else's shortcomings and or supposed 'wrong' decisions?
All it ever does, is serve to make the aggressors look stupid and/or neanderthal and the victims become uneasy. I say lay off the verbal aggro and take you bad energy out on a punch bag (not the missus :shocked:)
Oh it's not that bad.......... :rolleyes: You need to look at some older threads. :laugh: Especially in Dub rides.
Oh and your car is not as fast as mine... disagree with me and we have a problem, I only have a missus, no punch bag here. Just kicked the dogs and punched a wall. :evil:
A double handed power wank is equally good at excreting (lol) bad energy, if you wanna save your knuckles.
Ps. Your car is a heap.
Wow, you take sarcasm well.. :rolleyes:
Thanks for the kind words towards my car. You clearly have no idea.
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This thread is captivating but entirely exhausting. :laugh:
Doesn't life have substantial depth, enough to warrant not going around pointing out everyone else's shortcomings and or supposed 'wrong' decisions?
All it ever does, is serve to make the aggressors look stupid and/or neanderthal and the victims become uneasy. I say lay off the verbal aggro and take you bad energy out on a punch bag (not the missus :shocked:)
Oh it's not that bad.......... :rolleyes: You need to look at some older threads. :laugh: Especially in Dub rides.
Oh and your car is not as fast as mine... disagree with me and we have a problem, I only have a missus, no punch bag here. Just kicked the dogs and punched a wall. :evil:
A double handed power wank is equally good at excreting (lol) bad energy, if you wanna save your knuckles.
Ps. Your car is a heap.
Wow, you take sarcasm well.. :rolleyes:
Thanks for the kind words towards my car. You clearly have no idea.
Please don't say you missed the irony in my comments. It was meant as a back handed compliment in reference to your earlier comments regarding the speeds of both our cars. No offense meant mush :kiss: