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Model specific boards => Golf mk2 => Topic started by: walchy01 on 13 July 2012, 20:19
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Evening All
This has got to be one of a very select few of VW GTI 8V 3 door cars around, for sale on a private auction site is a Mk2 8v, 1 elderly owner from new, FSH, Only 25,000 miles, it is a 90 on an H plate, big bumpers etc, no roof though;(, serviced by VW every two years,odd time more often,it has 13 VW stamps, and also has last 8 MOT Certificates to back the mileage up,all good bodywork and underneath,
I am busting to buy it but my question is how much do I go to in order to own this one off motor?
Got £4,000 in my mind, what are your thoughts?
Would make a real show car that's for sure.
Thank you
Walchy
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Colour??
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The one and only ....... RED
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£4K would be a great price but I would expect £6-8K... :wink:
BUT if you were thinking about it as a daily I would be expecting a few big bills - as things will need replacing from lack of use as much as from over use....
Has it been garaged?
TBH I wouldn't want it (Unless I won the lottery) as its as much a sin to not use a MK2 as it is to wreck one by putting on stupid mods.... :nerd:
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Is it a 16V? No.
There's your answer.
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Is it a 16V? No.
There's your answer.
Agree, 16v or nowt :)
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£4K would be a great price but I would expect £6-8K... :wink:
BUT if you were thinking about it as a daily I would be expecting a few big bills - as things will need replacing from lack of use as much as from over use....
Has it been garaged?
TBH I wouldn't want it (Unless I won the lottery) as its as much a sin to not use a MK2 as it is to wreck one by putting on stupid mods.... :nerd:
Yep have to fully agree on that one, it needs using,daily;)
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Is it a 16V? No.
There's your answer.
Agree, 16v or nowt :)
Some people just have no class.... :wink:
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Buy a "just broken in" valver for £1000.
Spend £2500 tarting it up.
Spend £500 on Hookers.
WIN, WIN, WIN.
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Buy a "just broken in" valver for £1000.
Spend £2500 tarting it up.
Spend £500 on Hookers.
WIN, WIN, WIN.
:grin: :grin:
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Buy a "just broken in" valver for £1000.
Spend £2500 tarting it up.
Spend £500 on Hookers.
WIN, WIN, WIN.
:grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :laugh: :laugh:
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Good shout! If your budgets big then buy the best shelled car you can, a non-gti if needs be, then spend the change on decent engine gearbox suspension etc. That's still a peasants car by all rights, v low down in the golf food chain so I wouldn't be interested myself, unless it was normal 8v money
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Best car I ever had was a £350 single bid ebay special.
A big bumper 8v with over 200k on the clock.
Reliable and fun.
So you boys stick your 25k genuine miles up your poopers.
*jealous*
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Is it a 16V? No.
There's your answer.
Agree, 16v or nowt :)
Really? Is it that big a deal? My 8v is a joy to drive (its nippy enough without being so fast that its just unsafe) but if I really wanted a powerful car then something other than a 20 year old 1.8 would be better.
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Just to be clear, this is an investment for the long haul, so not looking for quick profit etc...
Surely ths car in 10 years is worth 10k money? :undecided:
Better than in the bank earning £2 a month, paying them bankers silly bonuses :laugh:
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I think if it's in solid condition 4k would be a bargain... If its been garaged and not pink then it's a steal...
As a budding classic a low mileage original un modded example will soon outstrip the values of heavily modded examples.......as for reliability it's a VW and the fact it has been serviced regularly will negate lack of use... Mine has done 35k now and it runs like clockwork low mileage un reliability is a myth
8v 16v doesnt matter unless you are a boy racer, they are both fun but performance is not really up to new car standards...
Oh and out of interest I had serious interest when I wobbled and thought of selling mine for stupid money..,yep great investment and fun on the dry weekend :smiley:
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I think if it's in solid condition 4k would be a bargain... If its been garaged and not pink then it's a steal...
As a budding classic a low mileage original un modded example will soon outstrip the values of heavily modded examples.......as for reliability it's a VW and the fact it has been serviced regularly will negate lack of use... Mine has done 35k now and it runs like clockwork low mileage un reliability is a myth
8v 16v doesnt matter unless you are a boy racer, they are both fun but performance is not really up to new car standards...
Couldn't agree more :wink: I'm watching it all the way in to the line, must admit I preferred my many 8v GTI's to the 16v anyway, don't know what the fuss is about, only top end that's different and with the speed limits and traffic lights locally can't get past 40 MPH anyway :angry:
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I think if it's in solid condition 4k would be a bargain... If its been garaged and not pink then it's a steal...
As a budding classic a low mileage original un modded example will soon outstrip the values of heavily modded examples.......as for reliability it's a VW and the fact it has been serviced regularly will negate lack of use... Mine has done 35k now and it runs like clockwork low mileage un reliability is a myth
8v 16v doesnt matter unless you are a boy racer, they are both fun but performance is not really up to new car standards...
Couldn't agree more :wink: I'm watching it all the way in to the line, must admit I preferred my many 8v GTI's to the 16v anyway, don't know what the fuss is about, only top end that's different and with the speed limits and traffic lights locally can't get past 40 MPH anyway :angry:
You might be right about it being a 10 or 15K car in the future BUT I can't see it.... Like all these things it's a gamble...
I would at least use it once in a while and then if it don't make the money you wanted you can say "I've enjoyed owning it and running it"...
Even if you get it for £4K you are going to have to spend £1-2K sorting out the issues with a low mileage car - assuming your not using it for a daily hack for the next 10 years to keep the mileage so low.... Ask Matt @ Autohausdolby about low mileage cars... He's got a Syncro and it's costing him a small fortune replacing all the parts that now are failing on it!!
Long term investment - Maybe!
I've been wrong before! & Will be again!! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
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Why such a hater.... I have had my 35k 8v for nearly 4years, Apart from new wheels the most expensive thing I have bought is a brand new key from vw classic de about 13€,touch wood I can't find anything to spend money on I wish I could ...As for value I have seen a low mileage four door in white (you may recall it ) sell for more then 10k, i had someone flying down to see mine at a figure not far short of that..There have been numerous mk1s selling for more than 12k...
If this car is clean and original at 4k it will be a bargain... Service and detail 6k no problem, as for the future it can only go up as it gets rarer
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I think if it's in solid condition 4k would be a bargain... If its been garaged and not pink then it's a steal...
As a budding classic a low mileage original un modded example will soon outstrip the values of heavily modded examples.......as for reliability it's a VW and the fact it has been serviced regularly will negate lack of use... Mine has done 35k now and it runs like clockwork low mileage un reliability is a myth
8v 16v doesnt matter unless you are a boy racer, they are both fun but performance is not really up to new car standards...
Couldn't agree more :wink: I'm watching it all the way in to the line, must admit I preferred my many 8v GTI's to the 16v anyway, don't know what the fuss is about, only top end that's different and with the speed limits and traffic lights locally can't get past 40 MPH anyway :angry:
You might be right about it being a 10 or 15K car in the future BUT I can't see it.... Like all these things it's a gamble...
I would at least use it once in a while and then if it don't make the money you wanted you can say "I've enjoyed owning it and running it"...
Even if you get it for £4K you are going to have to spend £1-2K sorting out the issues with a low mileage car - assuming your not using it for a daily hack for the next 10 years to keep the mileage so low.... Ask Matt @ Autohausdolby about low mileage cars... He's got a Syncro and it's costing him a small fortune replacing all the parts that now are failing on it!!
Long term investment - Maybe!
I've been wrong before! & Will be again!! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Apart from paint which I doubt it needs what is going to cost 1 to 2k sorting it?
My car would be perfect with that ploughed into it.
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Depends... It's hard to say without having any pic's or history to work on...
But if you wanted to keep it totally OEM & looking like a car that's only done 25K that there are issues with the brakes...
So new brake pipes & calipers all round, new window seals, new grille and lights and head lights etc - and no doubt sorting out other issues that have been bodged in its 20+ years of history... despite it only having 25K...
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Depends... It's hard to say without having any pic's or history to work on...
But if you wanted to keep it totally OEM & looking like a car that's only done 25K that there are issues with the brakes...
So new brake pipes & calipers all round, new window seals, new grille and lights and head lights etc - and no doubt sorting out other issues that have been bodged in its 20+ years of history... despite it only having 25K...
That's not a grands worth, think you are a tad misguided
Where do you get All this pile of pants from???? Maybe a Brake problems on barn find but this is no barn find car it has been regularily serviced...my brakes are original and sound,The pads have been replaced I must admit.. my brake pipes are excellent... My grill is as new, my headlights I have cleaned and they sparkle, how an earth does lack of use require a plastic grill to be replaced, my window seals are like new and their seems to be a total lack of bodging...Crikey why the low mileage hatred??? Mine has had at some point a new water pump alternator and other items associated with a 23 year old car, it drives like a two year old car tight smooth and no rattles..
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Depends... It's hard to say without having any pic's or history to work on...
But if you wanted to keep it totally OEM & looking like a car that's only done 25K that there are issues with the brakes...
So new brake pipes & calipers all round, new window seals, new grille and lights and head lights etc - and no doubt sorting out other issues that have been bodged in its 20+ years of history... despite it only having 25K...
That's not a grands worth, think you are a tad misguided
Where do you get All this pile of pants from???? Maybe a Brake problems on barn find but this is no barn find car it has been regularily serviced...my brakes are original and sound,The pads have been replaced I must admit.. my brake pipes are excellent... My grill is as new, my headlights I have cleaned and they sparkle, how an earth does lack of use require a plastic grill to be replaced, my window seals are like new and their seems to be a total lack of bodging...Crikey why the low mileage hatred??? Mine has had at some point a new water pump alternator and other items associated with a 23 year old car, it drives like a two year old car tight smooth and no rattles..
Chill out M8....
Seems like you haven't bought any new parts lately....
I would love a Low mileage car - but not by buying one at a premium and then facing the replacement issues that will come with owning it!
My knowledge comes from having a very good m8 who own's a VW specialist garage, and owns (as I said earlier) a low mileage Syncro that he has just put back on the road... and I have had to supply him stacks of parts that you now can't buy from the dealers anymore...
To "him" they are free parts as we swap his man hours for my parts..
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I would also say that I own an Audi S2 with 82K on the clocks that I've owned from 1995 and I'm now selling it despite saying I was always going to keep her no matter what happens...
But she is now up for sale and despite the low mileage no one will buy here because the mileage is too low for them and they know what work is required to sort her out - despite her being laid up for 6 years and garaged....
If you think MK2 parts are hard to find try getting any for an S2!!
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Depends... It's hard to say without having any pic's or history to work on...
But if you wanted to keep it totally OEM & looking like a car that's only done 25K that there are issues with the brakes...
So new brake pipes & calipers all round, new window seals, new grille and lights and head lights etc - and no doubt sorting out other issues that have been bodged in its 20+ years of history... despite it only having 25K...
Trying to chill but you don't listen... I bought a 33k mile car nearly four years ago.. I have done 1400 miles in that time. I have serviced it once, pads changed, A couple of oil changes, digi set up check and replaced the coolant when I bought a shiny new header tank as old one was brown... That is the total of my Mechanical expenditure..... I have not spent the thousand pound plus you insist is needed to keep a low mileage car.all of my expenditure is normal and due to the low use mileage it is a lot less than most others in four years
Your comments are misguided and anecdotal yet you continue to slag off low mileage cars.....how can I chill M8
That's not a grands worth, think you are a tad misguided
Where do you get All this pile of pants from???? Maybe a Brake problems on barn find but this is no barn find car it has been regularily serviced...my brakes are original and sound,The pads have been replaced I must admit.. my brake pipes are excellent... My grill is as new, my headlights I have cleaned and they sparkle, how an earth does lack of use require a plastic grill to be replaced, my window seals are like new and their seems to be a total lack of bodging...Crikey why the low mileage hatred??? Mine has had at some point a new water pump alternator and other items associated with a 23 year old car, it drives like a two year old car tight smooth and no rattles..
Chill out M8....
Seems like you haven't bought any new parts lately....
I would love a Low mileage car - but not by buying one at a premium and then facing the replacement issues that will come with owning it!
My knowledge comes from having a very good m8 who own's a VW specialist garage, and owns (as I said earlier) a low mileage Syncro that he has just put back on the road... and I have had to supply him stacks of parts that you now can't buy from the dealers anymore...
To "him" they are free parts as we swap his man hours for my parts..
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:angry: right then, final update, the auction finished yesterday, I bid 4k and it was sold for £4025, still feel that's great value even if you do need to work your way through replacing parts, anyway sadly not owned it so onwards and upwards, good discussions guys, love it how passionate you all are about these cars, fantastic to see, but no falling out :grin: :grin: :grin: :huh: :grin:
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Sorry to here that I am sure for the sake of 50 quid you would have bought it, maybe next time if you are lucky, will be looking to see if it appears on one of the "classic" dealer rip off sites soon....Is it still viewable??. keep an eye on car and classics, some great stuff comes up on there :smiley:
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:angry: right then, final update, the auction finished yesterday, I bid 4k and it was sold for £4025, still feel that's great value even if you do need to work your way through replacing parts, anyway sadly not owned it so onwards and upwards, good discussions guys, love it how passionate you all are about these cars, fantastic to see, but no falling out :grin: :grin: :grin: :huh: :grin:
What a bummer... To miss it for a few quid...
Can we have a link to it now??
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He might not have missed out by a few quid Ken. You of all people ought to know how ebay works. The buyer could have bid £10k with 2 seconds to go.
It sounds like a steal at that price. There was an F reg Monza 16V that had one owner, full service history and 26,000 miles sold local to me recently. I've got a feeling that was offered on Pistonheads for £10k or thereabouts and finally sold for £7.5k.
I'd love a low mileage one. Even though mine's an original, one owner car, it's still done 160k. If it had done 60k, I think I'd use it more as I'm mindfull of the mileage getting too high.
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:angry: right then, final update, the auction finished yesterday, I bid 4k and it was sold for £4025, still feel that's great value even if you do need to work your way through replacing parts, anyway sadly not owned it so onwards and upwards, good discussions guys, love it how passionate you all are about these cars, fantastic to see, but no falling out :grin: :grin: :grin: :huh: :grin:
What a bummer... To miss it for a few quid...
Can we have a link to it now??
Ken
I have asked my mate to give a link if he can, it is not like eBay,it was a traders only event online for dealers obviously :embarassed:
If I get one I will happily upload for everyone to view.
Thanks
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Here is the info of the car, minor imperfections would have made a great car :cry:
Details of Golf. Description sounds a bit of a shed but wouldn't have cost much to sort.
Volkswagen GOLF HATCHBACK
1.8 GTi 3dr
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Start time: 12 July 2012 at 14:00
Status: Auction has ended
Sold for: £4,025.00
Auction ended on 14 July 2012 at 14:00
History: 35 bids (£ 100 starting bid)
Seller details: View sellers feedback
West Yorkshire
United Kingdom
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Vehicle Specifics - Seller assumes all responsibility for listing this item.
Manufacturer: Volkswagen Number of Doors: 3
Model GOLF HATCHBACK Total Number of Owners: 1
Type: Hatchback Engine Size: 1,800cc
Registration Number (*) : H739SCP Chassis Number: WVWZZZ1GZLW670599
Mileage: 25500 MOT Expiration Date: July 2012
Model Year 1990 V5 Present: Yes
Date of 1st Registration: 01 Aug 1990 Green Slip: No
Body Colour: Red EU Supplied Vehicle: No
Trim Colour: Black Cloth Imported Vehicle: No
Transmission: Manual Condition Used
Fuel: Petrol Service History No
(*) Please be aware that cherished registration plates are not included unless stated in the description below
Item Description
Seller Comments
no service book present
The Current mileage is. 25607
The vehicle comes with2 keys.
front bumper scuffed o/s corner
o/s rear panel has rust
rear bumper has scuff o/s corner
no sterieo burn in drivers seat
glove book lock broken cant gain entry
all 4 alloys corroding
this is a really tidy car but it has been through are work shop and failed on the following
rear o/s shocker
bump stop split
front and rear pos centre silencer blowing
rear calipers sticking on
needs new disks and pads
wheel bearings
cambelt due never changed
the work shop estimate excluding cambelt was £1555.80
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i have now tracked down the original service book and it is has 13 Volkswagen Main Dealer stamps in total - 6500miles in 1991 - 7441miles 1992 - 8377miles 1994 - 9881miles 1996 - 12083miles 1998 - 13517miles 2000 - 15622miles 2002 - 18014miles 2004 - 19888miles 2006 - 21804miles 2008 - 23669miles 2010 - 25581miles 2012
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Even if you get it for £4K you are going to have to spend £1-2K sorting out the issues with a low mileage car
the work shop estimate excluding cambelt was £1555.80
Looks Like I was Right Again..... :tongue:
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Here is the info of the car, minor imperfections would have made a great car :cry:
IMO You were lucky NOT to get it - May Only have 25K on the clock but looks and sounds like an Unloved car... Look at the Alloys... :sick:
If you thought about it with your head and not your heart - to put this back to a standard to match the mileage you (IMO) would really struggle to make a short term profit on it... I know thats maybe not what you were thinking - but has to be taken into consideration...
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Agree with ken on this one.
Whilst this is a low miler and it would be nice to own a MINT low miler, this is far from it.
Needs panels, bumpers, wheels, interior, suspension etc etc.
Would be cheaper to buy a tidy-ish car for a grand then spend the rest doing it up. You'd end up with a nice car for a lot less the only difference being the mileage on the engine.
And on a Golf that doesn't matter too much. If it did bother you though you could have the engine rebuilt.
The only selling point on this car is what the clock reads.
IMO this is quite a lot of money for a car that isn't too good.
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Bloody hell that is so wrong..the seats are wrong wheels are wrong it's a young uns car and they don't do a thousand miles a year unless he just got given it by Nan ...
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No way is that worth 4k. :huh:
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No 8v is worth 4grand. That's 20vt money, and a nice one at that!! Don't be dissappointed for missing out on it, you got away lightly!!
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Bloody hell that is so wrong..the seats are wrong
I thought they were the right seats for a 1990 8V. My 1989 small bumper 8V had the same pattern, but when I bought a replacement set to do some repairs, I found that they had come from a 90 spec car and were a slightly different shape.
I have to agree with the other comments about the cars value. No way is it worth £4k. Even though it has service history, alarm bells would be ringing regarding the mileage. If it is genuine, then another £2k would make it into a very nice car, but at £6k, there's never going to be any profit in it.
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Bloody hell that is so wrong..the seats are wrong wheels are wrong it's a young uns car and they don't do a thousand miles a year unless he just got given it by Nan ...
Oi! Less of the young un tar brushing :P
In my opinion it's worth what someone is willing to pay, i've had lots of interest on mine even though its not even for sale and lots asking me to let them know if i ever sell it before putting it up for sale. Not long back a 66k mile mint original atlas grey 8v one went for £6500 and i've seen a few with 45-52ish k miles on up for 8-10k and selling (for what end sum i do not know)
Damien has been right, in the way he's looked at this, i'm guessing assuming this car would be as mint as your own when you picked it up? And Ken, you've been right in the way you looked at it, assuming it hadnt been a loved for and cherished example and needs work? We're all on this forum for our love of the VW Golf, no need for disputes :cool:
Others also seem to be forgetting that not everyone wants a 'fast' car, therefore 8v/16v doesnt matter, and if thats what i personally wanted from a car i'd not be buying a mk2 golf at all!
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Well put but do you think an old un would paint the wheels that colour??? :smiley:
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Not at all :grin: many of us youngun's wouldnt either! To think i was getting stressed about the center colour on my wheels then someone goes and paints theirs that colour!
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I can see a g reg big bumper with pre 90 check seats but not really seen any big bumper with 14" teardrops as standard.... As for 1500 pounds for brakes and exhaust with some paintwork that's a bit steep IMO.
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Be interesting to see how quickly the car re-appears and at what price.
Now why someone put it up for sale with those wheels on is another matter :shocked: :grin:
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Be interesting to see how quickly the car re-appears and at what price.
Now why someone put it up for sale with those wheels on is another matter :shocked: :grin:
Got to agree, will soon be back up for sale on Piston Heads at £8k :embarassed:
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£4000 - RETAIL if it was super mint. I know of a g60 LHD syncro 3 door going for that sort of money and those are mega rare.
The estimated repair bill £1550 LMFAO! Parts are pennies! its the labour charge. Can do a cambelt with my eyes closed! :grin:
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That's got to be worth getting you on tele again for :grin:
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The estimated repair bill £1550 LMFAO! Parts are pennies! its the labour charge.
But you have to factor in labour costs, even if they are your own. Unless you are Messrs Brewer and China that is. When you're doing a job for yourself, you're not earning money from anyone else.
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Is there not some website now that you can check old english mot's if you have reg and chassis number? Id be intrigued to see does the mileage match up
i smell a lemon, full vag service history but timing belt never changed?
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Is there not some website now that you can check old english mot's if you have reg and chassis number? Id be intrigued to see does the mileage match up
i smell a lemon, full vag service history but timing belt never changed?
Errrr Is it not DVLA....
No big surprise for the cam belt... 60K or 4/5 years, anything to save a few quid as it's a Yorkshire car!! :tongue:
Cars only done 25K.... :grin:
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Is there not some website now that you can check old english mot's if you have reg and chassis number? Id be intrigued to see does the mileage match up
i smell a lemon, full vag service history but timing belt never changed?
Errrr Is it not DVLA....
No big surprise for the cam belt... 60K or 4/5 years, anything to save a few quid as it's a Yorkshire car!! :tongue:
Cars only done 25K.... :grin:
http://motinfo.direct.gov.uk/internet/jsp/ECHID-Internet-History-Request.jsp
its 20 yr old, should have had 4 timing belts done on it! if 'genuine' car with 'genuine' history!
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Seem's this car is back up for sale...
http://classifieds.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/volkswagen/golf-gti-mk1-mk2/vw-golf-gti-mk2--26-000-miles/705230 (http://classifieds.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/volkswagen/golf-gti-mk1-mk2/vw-golf-gti-mk2--26-000-miles/705230)
A customer of mine pointed me to it after reading a thread on ED...
Had a feeling I'd seen it before, when he copy and pasted the link!
Looks much better for the silver alloys!!
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Ken
Thanks for that pal, a few quid profit made on that then :shocked: aaahh well.....
Cheers
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SORRY M8...
It wasn't sold last time I looked..
Would be surprised if he got the full price for it and lets not forget he's had to spend a few quid on it putting it right..