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Model specific boards => Golf mk4 => Topic started by: dopeydean on 23 June 2012, 13:43
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hi all my dopey wife has lost the one and only key for are golf mk4 gti any ideas on how much it is to replace and reprograme the key manythanks
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from the dealers.....£180 i got quoted
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Go to a scrappy get the same key and get someone to program it up for you where abouts are you if your in london or near southampton then r44ms?? is your man !
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Love the fact your username is dopeydean but your dopey wife lost the keys haha epic.
Agree with 2nd hand key an reprogram. Dont you have the key code in the booklet for the car?
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hi there i got a new one done by timpsons yeah thats right, only selected shops do it but if you look them up on the internet they will advise which ones do it to see if one isnear to you, cost was £135.00
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so will i need new lock set aswell ?????????
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If you've lost the ONLY key, you're in for a big big bill, as some how, someone needs to get inside the car, then get the electronics out, take the chip out, put that in a programmer, get your code, get keys, new ignition barrel and locks.
Won't see much change from a grand.
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Can the dealer not get a key from the VIN number? Yes it will be expensive (generally around £250 including coding for other makes i have owned) but a shed load cheaper than £1,000.
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generally around £250 including coding for other makes i have owned
But he'll need everything, he's lost the ONLY key.
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generally around £250 including coding for other makes i have owned
But he'll need everything, he's lost the ONLY key.
I know. On a Vx you can get a cut key supplied and coded (by Vx) if there are no other keys. I think the key arrives at the dealers already cut - they get in to the car with it and can code the key from there... He would just need the AA to get his car to the dealers.
Or - what am I missing?
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generally around £250 including coding for other makes i have owned
But he'll need everything, he's lost the ONLY key.
I know. On a Vx you can get a cut key supplied and coded (by Vx) if there are no other keys. I think the key arrives at the dealers already cut - they get in to the car with it and can code the key from there... He would just need the AA to get his car to the dealers.
Or - what am I missing?
You need the ignition on to code the key, that proposed new key won't switch the ignition on as its not authorized/coded. The alarm will go off as soon as you try.
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if you've lost you key you have to go into VW give them your V5 with VIN number and ID and they will give you a spanking new key fob from germany takes about 7 days to come costs £140 then £70 to get programmed to your car. i know it happened to me couple of months back i dropped my key in the canal lol.
forgot to include you have to get the car towed to the dealers to get the key coded in if you have AA/RAC/GreenFlag then your fine.
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all you need to go is go dealers they should be able to order one. as people have said. it will need coding but it will unlock the car it just wont start it and the alarm will go off
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You will need to get a new key from VW or some auto locksmiths can cut one by dismanteling the lock barrel, but as long as you can get the SKC you don't need to go to the dealers to get the key programmed anyone can do it with vagcom :afro:
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Remind me to never loose my spare key! :laugh:
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Check and see if you are covered by your Home Contents policy, i know i am covered for lost car keys
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You will need to get a new key from VW or some auto locksmiths can cut one by dismanteling the lock barrel, but as long as you can get the SKC you don't need to go to the dealers to get the key programmed anyone can do it with vagcom :afro:
Only if the ignition is switched on.
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You will need to get a new key from VW or some auto locksmiths can cut one by dismanteling the lock barrel, but as long as you can get the SKC you don't need to go to the dealers to get the key programmed anyone can do it with vagcom :afro:
Only if the ignition is switched on.
Which you can do without a key if you take the steering wheel surround off and remove the ignition switch from the barrell :nerd: or use the new key blank you get cut at an auto locksmiths to power the car in, it doesn't matter about the immobiliser light being on.
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You will need to get a new key from VW or some auto locksmiths can cut one by dismanteling the lock barrel, but as long as you can get the SKC you don't need to go to the dealers to get the key programmed anyone can do it with vagcom :afro:
Only if the ignition is switched on.
Which you can do without a key if you take the steering wheel surround off and remove the ignition switch from the barrell :nerd: or use the new key blank you get cut at an auto locksmiths to power the car in, it doesn't matter about the immobiliser light being on.
You can't do that. Without the key being programmed, the immob won't let you in and the alarm will go off as soon as you try - that's what the 'chip' 'programmed key' is for, otherwise people would be stealing cars quite easily like in the old days.
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You will need to get a new key from VW or some auto locksmiths can cut one by dismanteling the lock barrel, but as long as you can get the SKC you don't need to go to the dealers to get the key programmed anyone can do it with vagcom :afro:
Only if the ignition is switched on.
Which you can do without a key if you take the steering wheel surround off and remove the ignition switch from the barrell :nerd: or use the new key blank you get cut at an auto locksmiths to power the car in, it doesn't matter about the immobiliser light being on.
how do you get in the car to do this?
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the new key thats been cut will unlock the doors but it will not turn off the immobiliser until the chip as been coded to the car so you cant start it but you can open it
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You can't do that. Without the key being programmed, the immob won't let you in and the alarm will go off as soon as you try - that's what the 'chip' 'programmed key' is for, otherwise people would be stealing cars quite easily like in the old days.
Yes you can I've done it
How do you think I do cluster swaps, the keys aren't coded to the cluster when the ignition is switched on for the first time, all they need to do is turn the ignition on to get power to the cluster and then code them in to the cluster and the CCM.
Also the key "not being coded" has nothing to do with the alarm, all that is in the key is an immobiliser chip this doesn't have any effect on the alarm only the immobiliser
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the new key thats been cut will unlock the doors but it will not turn off the immobiliser until the chip as been coded to the car so you cant start it but you can open it
:afro: exactly and as long as you have or can get the SKC it can be coded with vagcom :afro:
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You will need to get a new key from VW or some auto locksmiths can cut one by dismanteling the lock barrel, but as long as you can get the SKC you don't need to go to the dealers to get the key programmed anyone can do it with vagcom :afro:
Only if the ignition is switched on.
Which you can do without a key if you take the steering wheel surround off and remove the ignition switch from the barrell :nerd: or use the new key blank you get cut at an auto locksmiths to power the car in, it doesn't matter about the immobiliser light being on.
how do you get in the car to do this?
If you can't get in then it is auto locksmith time or get a key from the V5 at VW then code it yourself
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neil is right, i have to code freshly cut keys quite often. the immobiliser doesn't stop you turning the key, it'll even let you start the car briefly.
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the new key thats been cut will unlock the doors but it will not turn off the immobiliser until the chip as been coded to the car so you cant start it but you can open it
what if you have de-locked it?
but the alarm will go off wont it?
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You can't do that. Without the key being programmed, the immob won't let you in and the alarm will go off as soon as you try - that's what the 'chip' 'programmed key' is for, otherwise people would be stealing cars quite easily like in the old days.
Yes you can I've done it
How do you think I do cluster swaps, the keys aren't coded to the cluster when the ignition is switched on for the first time, all they need to do is turn the ignition on to get power to the cluster and then code them in to the cluster and the CCM.
Also the key "not being coded" has nothing to do with the alarm, all that is in the key is an immobiliser chip this doesn't have any effect on the alarm only the immobiliser
It does, the alarm will go off when a non coded key goes in and turns the barrel. I've coded keys also.
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the alarm will go off if it's been armed with the fob and the door was unlocked using the key in the barrel, but that wont stop you coding anything. Every one i've done the alarm stops as soon as the key is turned in the ignition barrel
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the new key thats been cut will unlock the doors but it will not turn off the immobiliser until the chip as been coded to the car so you cant start it but you can open it
what if you have de-locked it?
but the alarm will go off wont it?
your fooked :grin:
thats why i aint got a de lock kit as every now and then my locks wont open so i need to put the key into the lock turn it and its fine again i often wondered how i would manage if i did have a delock kit as this process of getting the locks to unlock doesnt work if you try it in the boot lock :undecided:
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the alarm will go off if it's been armed with the fob and the door was unlocked using the key in the barrel, but that wont stop you coding anything. Every one i've done the alarm stops as soon as the key is turned in the ignition barrel
Even if the alarm is armed on the fob, it disarms even if you use the key in the barrel unless the door electronics have a fault and haven't detected the unlocked state.
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then every mk4 i've done has had a dodgy door lock, which really wouldn't surprise me :grin: b5/b5.5 passats seem to suffer the worst with the door lock faults though for some reason
either way with a correctly cut key and an immo chip capable of being coded (unless its immo2) its a quick job if you already have the skc. if the alarm is going off while you're trying to do this you have issues somewhere other than the key
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You can't do that. Without the key being programmed, the immob won't let you in and the alarm will go off as soon as you try - that's what the 'chip' 'programmed key' is for, otherwise people would be stealing cars quite easily like in the old days.
Yes you can I've done it
How do you think I do cluster swaps, the keys aren't coded to the cluster when the ignition is switched on for the first time, all they need to do is turn the ignition on to get power to the cluster and then code them in to the cluster and the CCM.
Also the key "not being coded" has nothing to do with the alarm, all that is in the key is an immobiliser chip this doesn't have any effect on the alarm only the immobiliser
It does, the alarm will go off when a non coded key goes in and turns the barrel. I've coded keys also.
The car doesn't know if the key is coded as the immo chip has nothing to do with the alarm, you can turn the alarm off using a key blade in the ignition to switch the car on with no fob attached
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The car doesn't know if the key is coded
Yes it does.
you can turn the alarm off using a key blade in the ignition to switch the car on with no fob attached
Not a non coded one you can't, as that'll be what sets the alarm off as soon as you try in the barrel.
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i feel a wager coming on :laugh:
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my non coded key that i had cut just to open the boot as it sometimes goes a bit dodgy does not set my alarm off but opens my doors and does not turn off my immobiliser
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my non coded key that i had cut just to open the boot as it sometimes goes a bit dodgy does not set my alarm off but opens my doors and does not turn off my immobiliser
if there's an immo chip in the key you should've said so yesterday i had the gear to do that in jv's car :lipsrsealed:
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my non coded key that i had cut just to open the boot as it sometimes goes a bit dodgy does not set my alarm off but opens my doors and does not turn off my immobiliser
if there's an immo chip in the key you should've said so yesterday i had the gear to do that in jv's car :lipsrsealed:
now you bloody say :grin:
its ok mate i only had it cut purely to unlock the boot its a bog standard key not the flip type one as the boot kept destroying the flip type ones :lipsrsealed: