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Model specific boards => Golf mk4 => Topic started by: inggti on 01 June 2012, 18:34
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Ok so since I had my stage 2 map. I've had nothin but problems. But now I know Wots up thanks to topher at midlands vw. Car was on rolling road today. And I now wasn't expecting to see great results but at least 225. Well I was wrong. Second run was the best one. A great big 172.2 bhp. :sick: :sick: :sick: don't now if topher saw how disappointed I felt. But still feel crap. So now gotta wait till Wednesday to take it bak to remapped to see wot he's saying
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im in the same boat mate went for my stage one re-map only got 169 bhp well f** off
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I could tell you were unhappy dude, but at least now you have some facts and figures to take back to your man who did the remap so hopefully he can tweak it.
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ouch, good luck getting it sorted dude
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i spoke to him after i left u and said about tweaking it. which his reply was that he cant tweak it its a pre set map. and ive gotta take it down to him wednesday so he can check it all. think id rather kick him in the nuts than let him mess with my car again
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who done it
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im sure with age they loose bhp. have you taken that into context?
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im sure with age they loose bhp. have you taken that into context?
if its been looked after it wont lose that many ponies :wink:
mine is 14 years old and pretty much same power as the day it left the factory according to logs and rollers
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Are you running an AGU with K03s aiming to get 225bhp?
With age even a well looked after car if the actuator is weak then your not going to make any good power.
What was Chris is findings?
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Ok maybe 225 is alot to ask but 172.2 on a ko3s?? And chris said everything was running great n75 an everything else. Fmic was doin wot it should. Just really well and truly gutted
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im sure with age they loose bhp. have you taken that into context?
if its been looked after it wont lose that many ponies :wink:
mine is 14 years old and pretty much same power as the day it left the factory according to logs and rollers
fair enough i did see a test on top gear a few years where the cars were alot lower then the factory.
i cant see with all the pipes. boost turbo on a golf that every single thing is working fine. that they would run the same as standard
its possible maybe the car is down on compression
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A lace called DG auto tech near Kidderminster did the map. And nick actuator was fine. Chris said even though it's down on power it was smooth getting upto it
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How would test pressure and how to fix
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im sure with age they loose bhp. have you taken that into context?
if its been looked after it wont lose that many ponies :wink:
mine is 14 years old and pretty much same power as the day it left the factory according to logs and rollers
fair enough i did see a test on top gear a few years where the cars were alot lower then the factory.
But if it was down on compression wouldn't I see other symptoms?????
i cant see with all the pipes. boost turbo on a golf that every single thing is working fine. that they would run the same as standard
its possible maybe the car is down on compression
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A lace called DG auto tech near Kidderminster did the map. And nick actuator was fine. Chris said even though it's down on power it was smooth getting upto it
i work in kiddie. if you want me to run mine on the dyno to see the difference from standard
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could do with a full diagnostic check (preferably on a standard map) instead of a quick power run but from the limited logging info i did get, load requests being met without loading up the n75 duty cycle, negligible timing correction and close enough maf logs.. i would expect more from a stage 2 agu/k03s combo.
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could do with a full diagnostic check (preferably on a standard map) instead of a quick power run but from the limited logging info i did get, load requests being met without loading up the n75 duty cycle, negligible timing correction and close enough maf logs.. i would expect more from a stage 2 agu/k03s combo.
This just confused the poo out of me. Sorry for being so thick. Could I have it in dumbass terms. Plz
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thats pretty much what me and jody were explaining after the dyno run dude, but it was in answer to nick's question so i had to step in to geek mode there for a sec :nerd:
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A lace called DG auto tech near Kidderminster did the map. And nick actuator was fine. Chris said even though it's down on power it was smooth getting upto it
i work in kiddie. if you want me to run mine on the dyno to see the difference from standard
The place I had it mapped haven't hot a rolling road so I had to goto midlands vw
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We're doi go from here??
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back to where you got it mapped lol
I wouldn't be happy at all with that, it shouldn't be down to you to check over the car AFTER a map, they should really have felt something wasn't right if they took it for a test run (which they didn't by the sound of it)
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could do with a full diagnostic check (preferably on a standard map) instead of a quick power run but from the limited logging info i did get, load requests being met without loading up the n75 duty cycle, negligible timing correction and close enough maf logs.. i would expect more from a stage 2 agu/k03s combo.
Maybe just a stage1 map on there then? You still got your MPPS tool I can fire over a file to test which I know should give over 200bhp with ease on a k03s AGU, you will be fine over writing the Revo map its just the Me7 which can be iffy.
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Nick Wots the waiting list for ur place and a rough ptice
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how they telling you figures if they aint got a rolling road are they using logs to work it out :undecided:
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how they telling you figures if they aint got a rolling road are they using logs to work it out :undecided:
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:grin: :grin:
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:grin: :grin:
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:grin: :grin:
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could do with a full diagnostic check (preferably on a standard map) instead of a quick power run but from the limited logging info i did get, load requests being met without loading up the n75 duty cycle, negligible timing correction and close enough maf logs.. i would expect more from a stage 2 agu/k03s combo.
Maybe just a stage1 map on there then? You still got your MPPS tool I can fire over a file to test which I know should give over 200bhp with ease on a k03s AGU, you will be fine over writing the Revo map its just the Me7 which can be iffy.
I did consider it, but without the ability to read a backup to put back on afterwards, it could leave the customer in an awkward position regarding a refund or tweaks from the place he had it mapped. I've no doubt that a full diagnostic session would highlight some weak components.. most 1.8Ts seem to suffer that :grin: but imo first step is back to the place it was done.
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Well I'm bak there Wednesday. So willb in touch with u topher to book in for a full diagnostics
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could do with a full diagnostic check (preferably on a standard map) instead of a quick power run but from the limited logging info i did get, load requests being met without loading up the n75 duty cycle, negligible timing correction and close enough maf logs.. i would expect more from a stage 2 agu/k03s combo.
Maybe just a stage1 map on there then? You still got your MPPS tool I can fire over a file to test which I know should give over 200bhp with ease on a k03s AGU, you will be fine over writing the Revo map its just the Me7 which can be iffy.
I did consider it, but without the ability to read a backup to put back on afterwards, it could leave the customer in an awkward position regarding a refund or tweaks from the place he had it mapped. I've no doubt that a full diagnostic session would highlight some weak components.. most 1.8Ts seem to suffer that :grin: but imo first step is back to the place it was done.
Best to be safe than sorry, I am like that with new MED9 EDC17 ecus..... Sorry Sir your getting a bus home... :lipsrsealed:
M3.8 will always recover fine even after failed flash, only time it will sh@t a brick is if the ecu is running an EVC protection PCB, then all you need to do is solder chip direct back to ecu and flash with MPPS with dash fuse out, Or if you ever get locked out just fly ecu upto me. Or number 2 go on ebay and buy old AGU ecus for £20 and stock them up as it only take 10 secs to recode the immo via VCDS and all the Golf AGU PCBs are the same so no matter what numbers on ecu you can flash 018R 018CG 018CH ect and have no issues.
Fingers crossed it will be 200+bhp soon.
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if all else fails i can get hold of one of those royal mail scanners that magically flash ecus back to stock :grin:
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if all else fails i can get hold of one of those royal mail scanners that magically flash ecus back to stock :grin:
lol you still remember that one.....
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yeah, an 032DR if i remember right :nerd: . i have an odd memory for numbers.. so while most people reading will think your previous post is jibberish i know exactly what you mean :laugh: one of the lads at work has an agu i've been playing with 018R and 018CG ecus in that.
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Ok didn't quite understand that. But can I have it lamens terms wot I need to do next topher?? Nick?? If it's bringing it bak to u topher or u nick
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nick loves playing with agus, and i think his new live mapping gadget will work with your ecu. you might want to look at a forge actuator if you want to get the most from the k03s
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Ok well I'll look into buying actuator. And see about booking it in.
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Ok well bit of a result. Been bak to remaped and he said map is fine?? He changed n75 and maf for one he had knocking about and seems better hitting about 1.7 bar. I think it is. But he still recons I have a boost leak. And if not its the turbo is nackered??
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cool so he's guessing the problem now? :huh:
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Yeah and he's supposedly good with vag and built a few vr6 supercharge. Suppose I'll have to wait a couple of weeks ATP save up and book into r-tech. The best of it is he started turning actuator. It's also been the 4th time I've been to him and every time he's said boost leak. But I'm sure wen topher had it on rollers it would of shown signs of this. Oh yeah web he said about boost leak he told me to take front intercooler off and join boost pipes with out intercooler on and if it's runs ok it's my intercooler. And if not its my turbo
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Sounds like you took it a real pro
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Ok well bit of a result. Been bak to remaped and he said map is fine?? He changed n75 and maf for one he had knocking about and seems better hitting about 1.7 bar. I think it is. But he still recons I have a boost leak. And if not its the turbo is nackered??
1.7bar..... :laugh: That should give you around 300lbft.
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1.7 bar on a crap map = bang :shocked:
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I just don't ow wot todo. Gonna have to wait and save some money befor booking in for r-tech. Bit skint at the mo. just take it easy wen I'm driving it
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I'm only used to old turbos like my c20let. Turn actuator up and away u go. I say it hits about 1.7 but drops to 1.4/6
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17psi then to 14psi??
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17psi then to 14psi??
that seems more like it :grin:
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i think thats probably right, i'm sure his boost gauge is in psi not bar. I've just put the log file on a usb stick so i'll post up tonight when im home (if i remember!)
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Ok yes it's in psi. Feel a little bit dumb now :sad:
But 1st and 2nd gear I hit 16/17 but 3rd onwards it's 14/12. Is this right
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what does it hold at
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I'd be going back there and getting the standard map put back on and demanding a refund.
Get a proper map from a tuner that knows what they are doing. My stage 1 from Carbon peaks at 17/18psi and holds at 15psi, a mate's stage 1 with a sh!tty map peaks at 22psi and holds at 18psi, mine is still quicker :grin: