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Model specific boards => Golf mk6 => Topic started by: Spartacus on 25 May 2012, 13:40
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The lease on my GTi company car expires in 4 months time so I have to change it over. I have come to the following decisions :
1. Another GTi - My Mk6 has been brilliant, I look forward to driving it everyday, only downside is it has left me wanting more. The game has moved on in last 3 years and 210bhp does not really stand out any more plus Mk7 will be shown in Sept, on sale 2013 ?( Number 3 on list )
2. Ed35 - More Tax, less mpg, perhaps a bit more raw than the standard GTi. Is it just a GTi with the MKV engine, 35 stickers and BlueMotion spoilers ? ( Number 2 on list )
3. GTD - Less Tax, more mpg but far too slow and not special enough, not even on list despite the savings.
4. BMW m135i - Oh god a BMW ! But what a car- 320bhp, RWD, Xenons and Leather std, 5 doors, 0-60 in 4.9 secs for the Auto and 37mpg. It may be the perfect step up from the Mk6. They go into production in July so reach here in September, pefect timing. ( Number 1 on list )
Feel I am committing a sin, I have an appt booked to spec the car next week. Not been into a BMW garage for over 20 years !
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Do you have the option to buy your current GTI seeing as it is such a good car? Surely it would save you a shiit load of money.
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Do you have the option to buy your current GTI seeing as it is such a good car? Surely it would save you a shiit load of money.
Yes I do, just waiting for the leasing company to confirm what they want for it.
I am hoping for about £12k
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Do you have the option to buy your current GTI seeing as it is such a good car? Surely it would save you a shiit load of money.
Yes I do, just waiting for the leasing company to confirm what they want for it.
I am hoping for about £12k
Remap it , you won't want to hand it back :wink:
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I think you've answered your own dilemma, Beemer....there's a few on here that's seriously thinking of jumping ship...some have already done so!
The Doc, Penguine and possible Jimble to name but a few...
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Do you have the option to buy your current GTI seeing as it is such a good car? Surely it would save you a shiit load of money.
Yes I do, just waiting for the leasing company to confirm what they want for it.
I am hoping for about £12k
Remap it , you won't want to hand it back :wink:
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The lease on my GTi company car expires in 4 months time so I have to change it over. I have come to the following decisions :
1. Another GTi - My Mk6 has been brilliant, I look forward to driving it everyday, only downside is it has left me wanting more. The game has moved on in last 3 years and 210bhp does not really stand out any more plus Mk7 will be shown in Sept, on sale 2013 ?( Number 3 on list )
2. Ed35 - More Tax, less mpg, perhaps a bit more raw than the standard GTi. Is it just a GTi with the MKV engine, 35 stickers and BlueMotion spoilers ? ( Number 2 on list )
3. GTD - Less Tax, more mpg but far too slow and not special enough, not even on list despite the savings.
4. BMW m135i - Oh god a BMW ! But what a car- 320bhp, RWD, Xenons and Leather std, 5 doors, 0-60 in 4.9 secs for the Auto and 37mpg. It may be the perfect step up from the Mk6. They go into production in July so reach here in September, pefect timing. ( Number 1 on list )
Feel I am committing a sin, I have an appt booked to spec the car next week. Not been into a BMW garage for over 20 years !
The M135i is likely to be the car iget after my GTI goes.
Get the beemer.
Jim
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The Beemer is nice
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maybe its me.. but i think the 1 series is just fugly! :sick:
i am warming to the new 3 series and also the new Aldi 5 coupe but not the 1 series..
looks aside though i am sure it is without doubt a quality bit of kit..
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Even if you remap the GTI it will be no where near as good as the BMW... I would say buy the Gti and mod it... but only if it saved you a considerable sum of money. :nerd:
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Depends what you want/need. The GTi is fun and practical all in one package where as the 1 series isn't. There are always compromises. If it was me ED35 and a re map. :cool:
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If the wife's 123d 1 series cab continues being as good as it has been so far in the few weeks we've had it then a BMW will be next for me too. This was always VW's danger i.e. that they get more and more expensive to the point where people say they can get better, more prestigious cars for the money. Along comes the 135 for less than an R and Bob's your uncle, everybody's off down the BMW dealers!!!
And I have to say, the quality of our lass's Beemer is miles in front of my GTi. I do love my GTi but I'm not so blinkered as to not see its deficiencies.
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Personally I'd take the GTI over the 135. Mapped the GTI is a very, very good car and if you like it then I wouldn't necessarily be looking to jump ship.
I was facing a similar dilemma when I was thinking in selling the GTI - for me the Edition 35 isn't worth the price premium I'd have had to pay over my existing GTI (same goes for the R which I notice you haven't listed - might be worth a think though). The GTD does offer better economy but I agree that going from a GTI to a GTD does feel like a bit of a step down.
If the price on your GTI isn't that bad I'd hold onto it until the MK7 is at least released. If you don't like the Mk7 then you'll be in a better position to consider the BMW but I wouldn't rush your decision.
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Buy the GTI, use the cash allowance to fund the loan, then jump on the Mk7 GTI on the company car scheme...Then flog the current one.
Have you felt the plastic inside them beemers, all the things you touch and feel, :sick:
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A gti with a £500 remap is about 250 hp an edition 35 remaped about 270 hp depending on the car.
A 135 with a £500 remap is 360 hp but with rear wheel drive it won't act all silly when you nail it. The biturbo will give you a lovely straight power curve that dosn't look like a camels hump.
I chopped in my gti after 6 months and went back to a BMW. I've bought a 335d remaped it's about 350 hp and 520 ft and it is much much faster than my remaped gti. In fact it's in a different legue to the golf but it was expensive.
Is it even fair to compare the 135 to a gti of any sort, I would think it's going to be faster than a golf R.
If I'm honest I'm not a massive fan of the look of the 1 series but I do quite like the 3 door hatch. Each to their own.
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^^^^^ So a remapped ed35 only takes it up to R power, i thought a remap took it one up to 290- 315 bhp, is the R different as they claim 300bhp+ with just a remap , just curious.
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^^^^^ So a remapped ed35 only takes it up to R power, i thought a remap took it one up to 290- 315 bhp, is the R different as they claim 300bhp+ with just a remap , just curious.
Depends on who's map but most are 290+
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1 Series are a nice car in coupe form not keen on hatchback, biggest issue for us though was space as its quite cramped (I'm 6'3") which ruled it out sadly.
135 offers an awful lot of performance :evil:
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If you don't need rear seats or a decent boot then the 1 series would be an option.
Any that I have hired out I always thought the internal plastics were a bit plasticky and much prefer the MK6.
However that straight six turbo would be a corker..
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^^^^^ So a remapped ed35 only takes it up to R power, i thought a remap took it one up to 290- 315 bhp, is the R different as they claim 300bhp+ with just a remap , just curious.
It all depends on the individual car and how generous and honest the guys rolling road is :wink:
It's not a good idea to put touch power through the front wheels anyway is it they go a bit daft and silly, that's why the R has 4x4.
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Here's a point.
How much do you recon a golf would cost if it had a 3.0 litre 6 cylinder twin turbo with 320 hourse power and rear wheel drive (or 4x4) ?
How much is an rs3? £40k
I recon about £35k
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I was looking at the 1 series M coupe. Seriously quick for the money. Not bad looking either. And no understeer. :evil:
But for me, the GTD is just far more practical (and economical) for everyday use. And the 1 series hatch is seriously fugly.
The test drive results for the new Audi A3 are starting to appear. Only available in 3 door in September. Looks like the prices may be similar to the current range.
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To me, if you want a performance hatch for under £30k you simply won’t be able to beat the M135i particularly with the standard spec it comes with.
I saw someone earlier in the thread comment on the plastics in the BMW!!! They clearly haven’t looked at the extremely poor plastics in their Golf.
The Golf just isn’t in the same league for quality as the Audi's and BMW's.
Me/ waits for all the VW cultist's to rip me a new one.....
Jim
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Not sure that I will wait for the Mk7 Golf (R) either. Seriously tempted by the Merc A class AMG and it looks like it'll be around the same price as the BMW and probably the MK7 Golf R. :evil: Going to be available earlier as well by the looks of it. :cool:
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Seriously tempted by the Merc A class AMG and it looks like it'll be around the same price as the BMW and probably the MK7 Golf R. :evil: Going to be available earlier as well by the looks of it. :cool:
That's the next car I'll look seriously at.
It has the potential to be great...but then, so did the RS3 :sad:
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It'll partly depend on the standard spec for me, otherwise it will probably be very easy to turn a £30k car into a £35 - £40k one.... :cry: But the rumoured performance is very promising - perhaps VW will have to respond? :wink:
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Seriously tempted by the Merc A class AMG and it looks like it'll be around the same price as the BMW and probably the MK7 Golf R. :evil: Going to be available earlier as well by the looks of it. :cool:
That's the next car I'll look seriously at.
It has the potential to be great...but then, so did the RS3 :sad:
As much as I think it's a great looking car, Merc's just aren't that great to drive. They're comfortable, relaxing but not really hot hatch material :undecided:.
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As much as I think it's a great looking car, Merc's just aren't that great to drive. They're comfortable, relaxing but not really hot hatch material :undecided:.
*cough* Black Series cars?
If AMG to a proper job and sort the chassis out, and the engine is a typically monumental AMG affair, it will be worth the near £40k price it will likely be.
Put things into perspective...a Golf R in the spec I'd want is £39k
And lets be honest, it's a long time since a Golf GTI was a true Hot Hatch.
Even more so the R.
The target audience has changed...plenty of people are happy to pay £40k+ for a numb steering, awfully damped Aldi that's dull as dishwater to drive, because it's quick from A to B...why not a Merc?
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Not many Black series cars are around the £40k mark though... try £100k :shocked:
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Seriously tempted by the Merc A class AMG and it looks like it'll be around the same price as the BMW and probably the MK7 Golf R. :evil: Going to be available earlier as well by the looks of it. :cool:
That's the next car I'll look seriously at.
It has the potential to be great...but then, so did the RS3 :sad:
As much as I think it's a great looking car, Merc's just aren't that great to drive. They're comfortable, relaxing but not really hot hatch material :undecided:.
As stated above the "propper" mercedes cars ie 500 V8 enigned, AMGs etc are very, very capable machines (Given no snow, standing water blah lol)
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Just caught this thread. Can I just say NO!
It's a really ugly car. It may be great, but it's sooooo ugly. Sorry :undecided:
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Not sure it's ugly, and even if it were the roar of 3 litres of pure twin turbo power, torque and tuned growel from the exhaust should take your mind off it..
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It's not just me that finds it aesthetically displeasing, you just have to do a little search on the net and you'll find plenty (and i really mean most) of other people agree....
Heres just one of many
http://www.automobilesdeluxe.tv/the-2013-bmw-1-series-is-a-very-ugly-car/
It's the Waynetta Slob of cars. Nobody wants to be seen, or caught inside it! :wink:
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lol, that's the standard one they're refering to. Do you think the Golf S looks stunning?
The M135i looks superb imo and as these other people won't be helping me out with funding it, I couldn't give a sh!t what these 'pros' think.
Jim
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lol, that's the standard one they're refering to. Do you think the Golf S looks stunning?
The M135i looks superb imo and as these other people won't be helping me out with funding it, I couldn't give a sh!t what these 'pros' think.
Jim
Get photo's up this motor please ?
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Not sure that I will wait for the Mk7 Golf (R) either. Seriously tempted by the Merc A class AMG and it looks like it'll be around the same price as the BMW and probably the MK7 Golf R. :evil: Going to be available earlier as well by the looks of it. :cool:
Yep, that's on my radar too :smiley:
Also lined up firmly in BMW’s sights is the soon-to-be-revealed Mercedes-Benz A45 AMG, which is expected to reach Britain early next year bearing a similar price tag and packing 335bhp from a turbocharged 2.0-litre engine, an all-wheel-drive system and double-clutch transmission; all-new aerodynamics, a stiffer suspension system, bigger brakes and an upgraded interior. "
(http://cdn.ballerstatus.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/2012-05-02-be3.jpg)
(http://cdn.ballerstatus.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/2012-05-02-be2.jpg)
(http://cdn.ballerstatus.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/2012-05-02-be1.jpg)
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I didn't think there could be anything uglier than a 1 series but Mercedes have managed it, what happened to curves. :sick:
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Im not a fan ofmercs but that doesnt look too bad :lipsrsealed:
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lol, that's the standard one they're refering to. Do you think the Golf S looks stunning?
The M135i looks superb imo and as these other people won't be helping me out with funding it, I couldn't give a sh!t what these 'pros' think.
Jim
Get photo's up this motor please ?
(http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/7330/bmwm135irear.jpg)
(http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/2135/bmwm135i.jpg)
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Is a 1 series about the same size as a Polo, maybe we should be comparing it to a Polo GTI, looks a bit expensive then. :smiley:
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lol, that's the standard one they're refering to. Do you think the Golf S looks stunning?
The M135i looks superb imo and as these other people won't be helping me out with funding it, I couldn't give a sh!t what these 'pros' think.
Jim
Get photo's up this motor please ?
(http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/7330/bmwm135irear.jpg)
(http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/2135/bmwm135i.jpg)
now thats nice :tongue:
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Sorry chaps I just dont get it. I like certain beemers, just not that one. But like u say jimmy it's your money mush!
The merc Amg looks good from the front and 3/4 side shot, but that arse is F'd up. It's like they've kept the worst trait of the old A class. It does have a wicked interior though, but only because it makes you think your driving a CLK Black series... :laugh:
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I prefer Beemer to the Merc looks nice , but does it look any good in the flesh ?? :undecided:
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If I had to chose anything right now, it would be an RS3, it's become the "next" car on the list!
Never been a fan of the 1 series, zero room in the back and it feels like you inside a letterbox, all door not enough window for me.
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I like the look of that bimmer. Me wants one!
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Is a 1 series about the same size as a Polo, maybe we should be comparing it to a Polo GTI, looks a bit expensive then. :smiley:
The Polo is proberly bigger inside, especially the rear so maybe a VW UP :smiley:
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I like the look of that bimmer. Me wants one!
Did I mentioned the power and the price..... :evil:
Got to get one.....
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I like the look of that bimmer. Me wants one!
Did I mentioned the power and the price..... :evil:
Got to get one.....
How much Jim? :undecided:
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£29,999, it comes with Xenons and LED DRL, leather and 320 horses!!! And the exhaust has been deisgned to give the engine a roar!!!
Can't wait to test drive one in a few months.
Jim
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The numbers look impressive on both BMW and Merc and that would not be enough to tempt me as I just don't like them at all both are ugly and the Merc hideous too :sick:
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If this car was good looking it would be 5- 6k more, BMW have been clever with the price for that car and lets face it, its about that engine in it for most and pitching it in GTI territory. I even find myself as im driving along looking at 1 series wanting to like them but all that they remind me of is that chap out of JLS with the big eyes.
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If this car was good looking it would be 5- 6k more, BMW have been clever with the price for that car and lets face it, its about that engine in it for most and pitching it in GTI territory. I even find myself as im driving along looking at 1 series wanting to like them but all that they remind me of is that chap out of JLS with the big eyes.
Bread van :grin:
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£29,999, it comes with Xenons and LED DRL, leather and 320 horses!!! And the exhaust has been deisgned to give the engine a roar!!!
Can't wait to test drive one in a few months.
Jim
£27000 if you go for the 5 door..... (?)
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White seems to suit the 1 series better when I've seen them in the flesh.
I shall certainly look to test drive one when they come out.
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£29,999, it comes with Xenons and LED DRL, leather and 320 horses!!! And the exhaust has been deisgned to give the engine a roar!!!
Can't wait to test drive one in a few months.
Jim
£27000 if you go for the 5 door..... (?)
I had seen that but i'd assumed it was a typo as I don't know how they can sell it for that price....
Jim
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£29,999, it comes with Xenons and LED DRL, leather and 320 horses!!! And the exhaust has been deisgned to give the engine a roar!!!
Can't wait to test drive one in a few months.
Jim
I think they have changed it to just over 30k now, it did say 27.5k
£27000 if you go for the 5 door..... (?)
I had seen that but i'd assumed it was a typo as I don't know how they can sell it for that price....
Jim
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Yeah, the three door is £29,995 and the five door is £30,525
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cheeky buggers - I was having a 5 door @ that money :grin:
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cheeky buggers - I was having a 5 door @ that money :grin:
you were not the only one!! :undecided:
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I'll bet the 135 is not bad on fuel either.
Don't get me wrong, I like the a class amg thingy but have a look at the pictured of newest Hyundai i30 though.
Actually flick between the two, they are similar don't you think.