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Title: 1.8t into 4motion
Post by: gti_boz on 30 April 2012, 18:08
Is it possible to put a 1.8t into a 4mo? Can you get the box etc to match up? How much work if it is possible?

Cheers in advance. :)
Title: Re: 1.8t into 4motion
Post by: dan2252 on 30 April 2012, 18:11
ive not idea how  you do it but ive seen loads of vids on youtube of 4mos converted to 1.8ts so it is doable.. surly would be better to charge the 2.8?
Title: Re: 1.8t into 4motion
Post by: wretch20vt on 30 April 2012, 18:24
easiest way is to get everything from a donar S3. then put it in a 4 motion shell.
Title: Re: 1.8t into 4motion
Post by: scarr89 on 30 April 2012, 18:28
Why would you want to do that? Why not just buy a 1.8T? :huh: :undecided:

Or you thinking about a 4 wheel drive 1.8T?
Title: Re: 1.8t into 4motion
Post by: barrym381 on 30 April 2012, 18:31
Why would you want to do that? Why not just buy a 1.8T? :huh: :undecided:

Or you thinking about a 4 wheel drive 1.8T?
considering this myself  :smiley:
Title: Re: 1.8t into 4motion
Post by: wretch20vt on 30 April 2012, 18:32
Why would you want to do that? Why not just buy a 1.8T? :huh: :undecided:

Or you thinking about a 4 wheel drive 1.8T?

so its a mk4 1.8t 4motion
Title: Re: 1.8t into 4motion
Post by: cullygti on 30 April 2012, 18:39
could it not be done using s3 lump into 1.8t shell its still quattro with a bit more power  :undecided:
or just buy an s3 1.8t with quattro already with no messing around  :smiley:
Title: Re: 1.8t into 4motion
Post by: wretch20vt on 30 April 2012, 18:59
could it not be done using s3 lump into 1.8t shell its still quattro with a bit more power  :undecided:
or just buy an s3 1.8t with quattro already with no messing around  :smiley:

??? Quattro is the audi 4x4 system!
Title: Re: 1.8t into 4motion
Post by: scarr89 on 30 April 2012, 19:11
Would the 1.8T produce enough power to make the 4 wheel drive worth it? I mean what are the 4mo engines producing stock?
Title: Re: 1.8t into 4motion
Post by: cullygti on 30 April 2012, 19:13
could it not be done using s3 lump into 1.8t shell its still quattro with a bit more power  :undecided:
or just buy an s3 1.8t with quattro already with no messing around  :smiley:

??? Quattro is the audi 4x4 system!

yeah i know  :grin: just think it would be easier than fannying about to just buy an s3 or am i missing summat  :laugh:
Title: Re: 1.8t into 4motion
Post by: barrym381 on 30 April 2012, 19:14
Would the 1.8T produce enough power to make the 4 wheel drive worth it? I mean what are the 4mo engines producing stock?
just over 200 but a mine had 236  :smiley: an its a 1.8t in my s3
Title: Re: 1.8t into 4motion
Post by: barrym381 on 30 April 2012, 19:15
could it not be done using s3 lump into 1.8t shell its still quattro with a bit more power  :undecided:
or just buy an s3 1.8t with quattro already with no messing around  :smiley:

??? Quattro is the audi 4x4 system!

yeah i know  :grin: just think it would be easier than fannying about to just buy an s3 or am i missing summat  :laugh:
think its just to have something diffrent  :smiley:
Title: Re: 1.8t into 4motion
Post by: cullygti on 30 April 2012, 19:17
ah right then il shut up  :grin:
Title: Re: 1.8t into 4motion
Post by: barrym381 on 30 April 2012, 19:21
ah right then il shut up  :grin:
im thinkin of it as its cheaper to tune the 1.8t than the v6  :wink:
Title: Re: 1.8t into 4motion
Post by: scarr89 on 30 April 2012, 19:21
ah right then il shut up  :grin:
im thinkin of it as its cheaper to tune the 1.8t than the v6  :wink:

I see I see... :wink:
Title: Re: 1.8t into 4motion
Post by: gti_boz on 30 April 2012, 19:24
Well I'm running quite abit of power in my 1.8t gti and it's useless just spins up.. And the smallest amout of rain then it's just terrible.. I also have a metg kit n few other bits that I've not yet done.. Have considered a s3.. Just really like the mk4 and thought it would be difrent
Title: Re: 1.8t into 4motion
Post by: barrym381 on 30 April 2012, 19:24
ah right then il shut up  :grin:
im thinkin of it as its cheaper to tune the 1.8t than the v6  :wink:

I see I see... :wink:
but will never sound as good as my old 4mo  :cry:
Title: Re: 1.8t into 4motion
Post by: wretch20vt on 30 April 2012, 19:43
Well I'm running quite abit of power in my 1.8t gti and it's useless just spins up.. And the smallest amout of rain then it's just terrible.. I also have a metg kit n few other bits that I've not yet done.. Have considered a s3.. Just really like the mk4 and thought it would be difrent


Better tires???
Title: Re: 1.8t into 4motion
Post by: damien010685 on 30 April 2012, 21:36
could it not be done using s3 lump into 1.8t shell its still quattro with a bit more power  :undecided:
or just buy an s3 1.8t with quattro already with no messing around  :smiley:

??? Quattro is the audi 4x4 system!


The S3 models between 99 and 03 uses the same system as the golf 4motion and r32 Haldex!! even though its called quattro it isnt
Title: Re: 1.8t into 4motion
Post by: Rhyso on 30 April 2012, 21:47
It has been done plenty of times; chap on here has done it; should be a project thread kicking around somewhere

FYI - Quattro is only fitted to A4's and above; S3's use the Haldex system as found in the 4Motion and R32.  Got to love those marketing chaps
Title: Re: 1.8t into 4motion
Post by: Wazzzer on 30 April 2012, 21:52
Traditionally Quattro was permanent 50/50 (I think) 4WD system

Haldex splits the drive to whatever wheel is deemed to need it by the ECU
Title: Re: 1.8t into 4motion
Post by: damien010685 on 30 April 2012, 21:53
quattro is permanent 4x4  haldex basically engages 4x4 when you lose traction etc  
Title: Re: 1.8t into 4motion
Post by: JimBR on 30 April 2012, 22:28
Get a cheap A3 1.8T quattro if that's what you want.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Audi-A3-1-8-T-quattro-Sport-stunning-car-97k-miles-/280858381107?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item416476cb33#ht_1227wt_937

Maybe not the best example but you get the idea.
Title: Re: 1.8t into 4motion
Post by: AaronGS on 01 May 2012, 03:23
Yohan has done it (http://uk-mkivs.net/forums/t/420434.aspx (http://uk-mkivs.net/forums/t/420434.aspx))

However, what troubles are you actually having with yours spinning? I run about 330-350bhp in mine and have no real wheel spin issues unless its really icey. Maybe better tyres and an LSD would be a cheaper, quicker, easier option? Or a slightly gentler right foot?
Title: Re: 1.8t into 4motion
Post by: Golf_GT_TDI on 01 May 2012, 03:36
Tuned TDI lump into a 4motion now thats a conversion  :evil:
Title: Re: 1.8t into 4motion
Post by: cullygti on 01 May 2012, 09:23
just get an a3 tdi quattro  :laugh: its already done for you  :grin:
Title: Re: 1.8t into 4motion
Post by: wretch20vt on 01 May 2012, 09:31
but aldi's are ugly.
Title: Re: 1.8t into 4motion
Post by: cullygti on 01 May 2012, 09:33
yeah the wifes got an a3 sport tdi much more comfortable than the golf seats are same as recaro without the badge and a lot firmer but it does look crap  :laugh: oh and its slow  :grin:
Title: Re: 1.8t into 4motion
Post by: Golf_GT_TDI on 01 May 2012, 12:39
Yep, I'd rather have a TT than a A3  :nerd: