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Title: 1993 2.0L 8v into mk2 GL???
Post by: Twizted Nibbz on 18 April 2012, 12:59
Hi Guys,

Still no word on getting my old account details back so ill use this one for now!

Basically im looking at a pearler of a mk2, its a 1.8GL in white - 5 door. its an absolute stunner full service history 2 previous owners etc etc.

Well i currently have a 1993 2.0 8v mk3 that i wasgoing to sell but now im thinking of conversion. I have the full car its road worthy and runs sound so no bits would need to be sourced really.

1 - is it worth it?

2 - am i going to need any custom bits made up?

3 - will the mk3 ignition system, ecu etc etc fit and work without too much hassle if i have the full car and on standard management etc

4 - which gearbox would be best fitted?

Ive had quite a few Mk2's and ive replaced pretty much every single part on them in my time including numerous engine swaps in the past and im also a qualified deisel fitter so actually undertaking the work isnt a problem.

I'd really appreciate a bit of guidance. I have tried the search function but it didnt really come up trumps withanything that i found useful and from previous experience i know you guys have a wealth of info to share...

cheers brett
Title: Re: 1993 2.0L 8v into mk2 GL???
Post by: Diamond Hell on 18 April 2012, 14:59
I really wouldn't bother for the increase in performance you won't see.
Title: Re: 1993 2.0L 8v into mk2 GL???
Post by: Twizted Nibbz on 18 April 2012, 15:10
I really wouldn't bother for the increase in performance you won't see.

I dont see how its possible that you will not get a performance increase from a 1.8GL going up to a 2.0L 8v... in a smaller car that weighs less....

As far as i was aware you will get a fairly sizeable increase. It aint going to blow nobody's socks off i know that, but lets face it im going to get more fun out of the mk3 gti engine than the 1.8GL? And if ive already got both cars in working condition the GL is a spanker btw, there is absolutely no point in buying another gti engine instead i may aswell make use of what i have.

are you sure that there will be NO performance gains by upgrading from a 1.8 GL to a 2.0L gti????
Title: Re: 1993 2.0L 8v into mk2 GL???
Post by: clipperjay on 18 April 2012, 15:29
What year is the GL?
Electrics would be a pain if it wasnt a 90-92 MK2 Golf, CE2 anything older you are better off getting a new fuse box and loom.
Why not do a 16ver from an ABF same amount of work but better poke?
What experience has told me is trying to use old spare parts to save money is a fools economy unless its like for like and straight forward?
being a GL which is possibly a Autobox just makes it even more grief unless you have all the bits for swap over from manual?
 
Title: Re: 1993 2.0L 8v into mk2 GL???
Post by: Simeon on 21 April 2012, 20:14
Chuck a G60 in it, much more fun :wink:
Title: Re: 1993 2.0L 8v into mk2 GL???
Post by: Twizted Nibbz on 23 April 2012, 10:44
Chuck a G60 in it, much more fun :wink:

im trying to raise the money to buy one ive seen local and im about a grand short so far so hopefully this will raise me the last grand when its done and ill be driving one! lol

What year is the GL?
Electrics would be a pain if it wasnt a 90-92 MK2 Golf, CE2 anything older you are better off getting a new fuse box and loom.
Why not do a 16ver from an ABF same amount of work but better poke?
What experience has told me is trying to use old spare parts to save money is a fools economy unless its like for like and straight forward?
being a GL which is possibly a Autobox just makes it even more grief unless you have all the bits for swap over from manual?
 

Its a 91 mate
and the reason is because i would have to buy a new engine etc i allready have the 2 cars for the swap so i need to buy nothing for the conversion.....
Title: Re: 1993 2.0L 8v into mk2 GL???
Post by: clipperjay on 23 April 2012, 12:40
Its upto you!
Sounds like an excercise to me, but you will gain experience if not monatary value!
G60 sounds good aswell!  :wink:
Title: Re: 1993 2.0L 8v into mk2 GL???
Post by: Twizted Nibbz on 23 April 2012, 13:32
well considering both cars cost me less then £1200 and one is a minter full service history and mint inside and out etc id say i will be better off money wise. And.... after speaking to another known golf whizz it apears to prove to be a pretty good upgrade. obv 16v would be better but no point wasting money...

I believe the gearbox thats on the GL will be fine. it is Manual too i believe. I'll have to start putting pics up once month end has gone by and ive a bit of money to sort my phone and camera out. I will be doing the straight swap ill have to work on splicing the looms together but thats not too much issue.

and in the mean time looks like im gonna be reduced to a Mk4 GTI!!! FFS....
Title: Re: 1993 2.0L 8v into mk2 GL???
Post by: Diamond Hell on 23 April 2012, 17:22
Well if I were you I'd sell the 8V GTI Golf3 and buy another Golf3 but 16V.  Should fit into your overall £1200 budget if you shop carefully.

As someone who's gone through 1.8 - 2.0 8V - 2.0 16V I can assure you that the first time you set foot into an ABF Golf2 you will regret your decision.
Title: Re: 1993 2.0L 8v into mk2 GL???
Post by: Twizted Nibbz on 24 April 2012, 10:36
I hear what your saying mate. I've always had mk2's and my mates got an abf'd mk1 thats now a 20vt with about 340 bhp and ive driven both.

Surely theres no way on this planet im going to get a nice abf with tax and test so i can drive it home
for 350 sheets and i wont get no more for the 8v i dont think.
Title: Re: 1993 2.0L 8v into mk2 GL???
Post by: The Mighty Elvi on 24 April 2012, 11:25
Surely theres no way on this planet im going to get a nice abf with tax and test so i can drive it home
for 350 sheets and i wont get no more for the 8v i dont think.

ORLY?

http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=227170.0
Title: Re: 1993 2.0L 8v into mk2 GL???
Post by: Twizted Nibbz on 24 April 2012, 15:05
fair point mate ill ave a nosey payday next week, tbh its the faffin about n petrol n extra insurance n everything else that im going to need to do as well that stops me i have everything i need in my posession this minute to do the swap which was where my thinking came from.
Title: Re: 1993 2.0L 8v into mk2 GL???
Post by: Diamond Hell on 24 April 2012, 20:07
You are unlikely to need more petrol in the 16V, unless you're driving the tits off it at which point you'll be having a lot more fun than anyone with a 2.0 8V motor.

Best analogy is that as the 8V is thanking the host and going home for a nice cocoa before bed the 16V is cracking open another beer and turning the volume up on the stereo.
Title: Re: 1993 2.0L 8v into mk2 GL???
Post by: Twizted Nibbz on 25 April 2012, 10:44
You are unlikely to need more petrol in the 16V, unless you're driving the tits off it at which point you'll be having a lot more fun than anyone with a 2.0 8V motor.

Best analogy is that as the 8V is thanking the host and going home for a nice cocoa before bed the 16V is cracking open another beer and turning the volume up on the stereo.

you got the wrong end of the stick.... lol

I meant to fetch a car not to drive it. its in norwich about 300 miles from me thats a hundred quid round trip there plus the gettinghome for the other driver. that makes that car 600 quid and not in my price range and i dont want one thats got bits wrong with it because its i will have to spend more money on top. again just may aswell stick with what ive got.

Ive had golfs for ten years mate i know how much fuel they use lol. I know theres a difference between the 2 aswell mate ive had both in the past I just cant be arsed with the messing about to get a new one and all the bits required when ive got everything i need right here in front of my house
Title: Re: 1993 2.0L 8v into mk2 GL???
Post by: Diamond Hell on 25 April 2012, 12:15
Please don't call me 'mate' - it's intensely patronising and I don't know you from Adam.

You may have been driving Golfs for 10 years, but it sounds like you've been driving the wrong ones, or you're a pussy if you think the 8V is OK in comparison to the 16V.

Good luck nailing your donkeys in.  :grin:
Title: Re: 1993 2.0L 8v into mk2 GL???
Post by: Twizted Nibbz on 25 April 2012, 13:16
Please don't call me 'mate' - it's intensely patronising and I don't know you from Adam.

You may have been driving Golfs for 10 years, but it sounds like you've been driving the wrong ones, or you're a pussy if you think the 8V is OK in comparison to the 16V.

Good luck nailing your donkeys in.  :grin:

Oright mate Ill try....  :wink:

I dont know where you get this info from? Who said ive been driving 8v's if you actually read the thread you will have already established that i have had both in the past... Im not looking for smarmy comments from people that think they know what the whole world wants, i was looking for some advice on putting that enigne in that particular model nothing more... With the greatest amount of respect if you cant comment on that then please dont comment......

Its something for me to do on the weekends, it will cost no more than it allready has I dont dont desperately want to drive the fastst golf in the stoke if i did put a 20vt or a vr6 in its more a a something to do project....

 :laugh: