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Title: WIDE LOOK HELP
Post by: Tomonator1985 on 10 April 2012, 11:36

I’m looking to put some wheel spacers on to get a slightly wider look, fill the arches out a tad etc etc.

What can people recommend size, make wise?

Or any other tricks to get a wider look, without new wheels or arches……I can think of none.

Thanks!
Title: Re: WIDE LOOK HELP
Post by: Diamond Hell on 10 April 2012, 11:41
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MEGA FAIL CHAMPION

Indeed.
Title: Re: WIDE LOOK HELP
Post by: Tomonator1985 on 10 April 2012, 11:47
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MEGA FAIL CHAMPION

Indeed.

...care to expand on this at all?

and i would like to just quote D'Ream in saying "the only way is up" (knowledge wise) so help a brother out yeah?
Title: Re: WIDE LOOK HELP
Post by: The Mighty Elvi on 10 April 2012, 11:53
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MEGA FAIL CHAMPION

Indeed.

...care to expand on this at all?

and i would like to just quote D'Ream in saying "the only way is up" (knowledge wise) so help a brother out yeah?

Yazz and the Plastic Population I think you'll find.

Forgot to add.

It's D:Ream btw,

MORE FAIL.
Title: Re: WIDE LOOK HELP
Post by: Tomonator1985 on 10 April 2012, 12:07
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MEGA FAIL CHAMPION

Indeed.

...care to expand on this at all?

and i would like to just quote D'Ream in saying "the only way is up" (knowledge wise) so help a brother out yeah?

Yazz and the Plastic Population I think you'll find.

Forgot to add.

It's D:Ream btw,

MORE FAIL.


............HUFF. the only way is DOWN for me then....



Title: Re: WIDE LOOK HELP
Post by: clipperjay on 10 April 2012, 12:26
I'm not a fan of spacers they prematurely wear out your bearings and if they crack for any reasons they will come flying off wheel aswell!
Its a cheap ass way of getting wider wheel stance, but I just don't trust them even for sake of looks!
You can get a wide track system off a Mk3 little more involved but better options out there, plus I think you can use 5 stud pattern more on wheel whore choice!
TBH a good drop on coillies and phat alloys should be a better option than making them wider just for looks?
Title: Re: WIDE LOOK HELP
Post by: Diamond Hell on 10 April 2012, 13:00
You can get a wide track system off a Mk3 little more involved but better options out there, plus I think you can use 5 stud pattern more on wheel whore choice!

This, but I sense you're a pussy and skint.

TBH a good drop on coillies and phat alloys should be a better option than making them wider just for looks?

So this isn't going to happen either, so for that reason I'm staying with my original

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MEGA FAIL CHAMPION

Indeed.
Title: Re: WIDE LOOK HELP
Post by: Tomonator1985 on 10 April 2012, 13:13
I'm not a fan of spacers they prematurely wear out your bearings and if they crack for any reasons they will come flying off wheel aswell!
Its a cheap ass way of getting wider wheel stance, but I just don't trust them even for sake of looks!
You can get a wide track system off a Mk3 little more involved but better options out there, plus I think you can use 5 stud pattern more on wheel whore choice!
TBH a good drop on coillies and phat alloys should be a better option than making them wider just for looks?

cool. thanks for that. I do have it on coilovers with bbs rs's but it jsut looks a bit skinny to me.
Title: Re: WIDE LOOK HELP
Post by: basssound on 10 April 2012, 21:09
Spacers cracking and flying out ect...what complete rubbish!!!
Depending on the width, e.t of your rims and arch work will tell you how thick of a spacer you can use.
On a completely standard car then 20mm wouldn't be an issue, as for prematurely wearing out bearings well that's rubbish as well.
Title: Re: WIDE LOOK HELP
Post by: JC on 10 April 2012, 21:15
Spacers cracking and flying out ect...what complete rubbish!!!
Depending on the width, e.t of your rims and arch work will tell you how thick of a spacer you can use.
On a completely standard car then 20mm wouldn't be an issue, as for prematurely wearing out bearings well that's rubbish as well.


would you re-use head bolts too then  :lipsrsealed:
Title: Re: WIDE LOOK HELP
Post by: basssound on 10 April 2012, 21:50
Spacers cracking and flying out ect...what complete rubbish!!!
Depending on the width, e.t of your rims and arch work will tell you how thick of a spacer you can use.
On a completely standard car then 20mm wouldn't be an issue, as for prematurely wearing out bearings well that's rubbish as well.


would you re-use head bolts too then  :lipsrsealed:

When rebuilding Mercedes Benz HGV engines which I do being a Mercedes Benz technician then the answer to your question is yes I would.
Stretch bolts have a minimum and maximum bolt length, I measure bolts when the heads have been removed once before...

Actually to be fair it all depends on the manufacturer as to what their repair instruction recommend.
Title: Re: WIDE LOOK HELP
Post by: Sam on 10 April 2012, 21:54
Spacers cracking and flying out ect...what complete rubbish!!!
Depending on the width, e.t of your rims and arch work will tell you how thick of a spacer you can use.
On a completely standard car then 20mm wouldn't be an issue, as for prematurely wearing out bearings well that's rubbish as well.


I agree with most of this, spacers are as likely to crack as your wheel is surely and the amount of factors affecting bearing fatigue far exceed those that a spacer impliments. The only real risk i see is making sure that your wheel bolts are long enough and that your camber is still correct.
Title: Re: WIDE LOOK HELP
Post by: clipperjay on 10 April 2012, 22:13
Spacers cracking and flying out ect...what complete rubbish!!!
Depending on the width, e.t of your rims and arch work will tell you how thick of a spacer you can use.
On a completely standard car then 20mm wouldn't be an issue, as for prematurely wearing out bearings well that's rubbish as well.


I agree with most of this, spacers are as likely to crack as your wheel is surely and the amount of factors affecting bearing fatigue far exceed those that a spacer impliments. The only real risk i see is making sure that your wheel bolts are long enough and that your camber is still correct.

Its MY opinion I've seen excessive wear on larger spacers and seen cheap ass ones from fleebay being sold and cracking. The other issues are when they use them to adapt different wheels and the space conversions have been dangerous! Like I said I dont give a rats ass if you welded one to your face I'M NOT A FAN OF THEM IMO!
For you to have three posts and come on here say to me its rubbish well go back to Merc's I'm sure you have tiny little computers that sound like speak and spell to advise if your bolts are long enough fella..... :wink:
Title: Re: WIDE LOOK HELP
Post by: basssound on 10 April 2012, 22:21
Spacers cracking and flying out ect...what complete rubbish!!!
Depending on the width, e.t of your rims and arch work will tell you how thick of a spacer you can use.
On a completely standard car then 20mm wouldn't be an issue, as for prematurely wearing out bearings well that's rubbish as well.


I agree with most of this, spacers are as likely to crack as your wheel is surely and the amount of factors affecting bearing fatigue far exceed those that a spacer impliments. The only real risk i see is making sure that your wheel bolts are long enough and that your camber is still correct.

Its MY opinion I've seen excessive wear on larger spacers and seen cheap ass ones from fleebay being sold and cracking. The other issues are when they use them to adapt different wheels and the space conversions have been dangerous! Like I said I dont give a rats ass if you welded one to your face I'M NOT A FAN OF THEM IMO!
For you to have three posts and come on here say to me its rubbish well go back to Merc's I'm sure you have tiny little computers that sound like speak and spell to advise if your bolts are long enough fella..... :wink:

Oh dear....
Title: Re: WIDE LOOK HELP
Post by: Sam on 10 April 2012, 22:23
I would have assumed that we were talking about good quality spacers of the correct fitment, not ebay specials...
Title: Re: WIDE LOOK HELP
Post by: clipperjay on 10 April 2012, 22:30
I would have assumed that we were talking about good quality spacers of the correct fitment, not ebay specials...

Sam what do you want me to say here?

Most newbies come here asking questions about spacers????
what are there budgets?
Are cheap ones available? yes
Do you think if the lads knows what available to him knows enough about camber and toe in toe out?
I prefer the lad gets better options for his Golf!
I'm the only one on this dam thread that gave him decent enough advice and I'm getting shi*t for it?
I might just not bother anymore, and just be a CU*NT to every new fuc**ker on here!!!!  :evil: :kiss: 
Title: Re: WIDE LOOK HELP
Post by: JC on 10 April 2012, 22:38
jay, i love ya  :kiss:

and agree, - i tried spacers on my B3 wagon, change the WHOLE FEEL OF THE CAR, and they were proper solid spacers.

to the OP. as with everything there will be pro's and cons with everything suggested . Research and good luck
Title: Re: WIDE LOOK HELP
Post by: Sam on 10 April 2012, 22:55
Oh dear, sorry jay. Mk2 section has gone a little loopy over the past week. I was trying to direct the chat to somthing that would give good info on  quality wheel spacers rather than another one about how sh!t 10quid ebay spacers are. Just opinions on good spacers etc. I know dh stated before that he had had problems on his/his mates track car because of poor spacers but then a few people said they had uses x spacers and wouldnt run a track car without them as an initial and cheap mod.
Title: Re: WIDE LOOK HELP
Post by: lewis1641 on 11 April 2012, 10:59


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cool. thanks for that. I do have it on coilovers with bbs rs's but it jsut looks a bit skinny to me.
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if you are running bbs rs's then get them rebuild with some wider dishes. i am doing that with my rm's

Title: Re: WIDE LOOK HELP
Post by: lemski on 15 April 2012, 11:13
Dave thats a gd point.
On the spacer front. Cheap one break. I remember takin my wheel off to bits of spacer falling out. If i were to space out the rear of my mk2 id go hubcentric. Fk seem gd quality
Title: Re: WIDE LOOK HELP
Post by: Mr Blue on 15 April 2012, 11:59
Spacers cracking and flying out ect...what complete rubbish!!!
Depending on the width, e.t of your rims and arch work will tell you how thick of a spacer you can use.
On a completely standard car then 20mm wouldn't be an issue, as for prematurely wearing out bearings well that's rubbish as well.


+1
Title: Re: WIDE LOOK HELP
Post by: kittie on 17 April 2012, 12:44
I've not read the whole thread but just wanted to add - I run spacers on my car (to get the wheels over the brake callipers).

When you go wide by this method, you screw up the handling of the car and the steering feels frankly awful. I used to run BMW wheels with a lower offset (in effect bringing the wheels out further) and it was horrible.

I've gone now to RAs with *just* enough of a spacer to clear the callipers and it's a million times better.

If you enjoy driving, don't bother, seriously.