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Title: VW Golf GTI Mk7 (2013) CAR Mag scoop
Post by: MAW73 on 22 March 2012, 10:51
http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/Secret-new-cars/Search-Results/Spyshots/VW-Golf-GTI-Mk7-2013-CARs-new-scoop/

(http://i868.photobucket.com/albums/ab242/WITHCOMBEM/vwgolfscoop01.jpg)

(http://i868.photobucket.com/albums/ab242/WITHCOMBEM/vwgolfscoop03.jpg)
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Post by: gizzywizzy on 22 March 2012, 12:24
Liking that.  It is not too far removed from the mk6.  See they are persisting with monzas, guess VW aren't bothered by white worm issues.

Hw much do we reckon, shall start saving now, though I am tempted by the Astra VXR.
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Post by: ajmoir36 on 22 March 2012, 12:34
What does it look like a mk6.5 although the new chassis should make it a true mk7
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Post by: SilverChariot on 22 March 2012, 13:05
I wonder if those red bits in the headlights will light up at night!
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Post by: jdjd on 22 March 2012, 13:33
In GTI spec, it brings an uprated 2.0-litre four-cylinder engine, now producing 217bhp and 251lb ft. Power's up only marginally, but that's a substantial torque hike, all of it on tap from 1800-5200rpm.

So the next hot Golf is fast: 0-62mph takes just 6.7sec and top speed is 153mph, according to CAR's friendly faces in Wolfsburg.



Lolz for all the dreamers talking of 230bhp-250bhp +
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Post by: jv on 22 March 2012, 14:08
"artists' impressions" :grin:
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Post by: Will@carbon on 22 March 2012, 14:15
Looks basically the same to me, which isn't a bad thing.
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Post by: Flying Haggis on 22 March 2012, 14:18
 :cry: Good thing I m picking up my new car this weekend...... At least it ll be 2 years before I have to see one of those fly by.
Title: Re: VW Golf GTI Mk7 (2013) CAR Mag scoop
Post by: JoeGTI on 22 March 2012, 14:35
Like all these "scoops", I'd be surprised if the actual car looks exactly like this. It does look a lot like the MK6 which is good news for us I guess! There's a strong resemblance to the latest Polo with that lower bumper too.

I like the rear lights... they're a bit Alfa-like  :laugh:
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Post by: carl1 on 22 March 2012, 14:39
Is this a joke, looks a mess, no way will it look like that.
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Post by: PenguinGTI on 22 March 2012, 15:03
Is this a joke, looks a mess, no way will it look like that.

Have to agree. The front is nothing more than a Polo lower bumper merged with a Mk6 headlight and bonnet. The side is completely unaltered over a standard Mk6. On top of that, follow the crease in the bonnet from the headlight up to the A-pillar. Towards the A-pillar, the central section of the bonnet protrudes from the side-section, almost indicative of a power bulge design. Then compare this with the farside crease, which remains the same as the Mk6.  :huh:

And then there's the back... ugly!

It's a very bad photo shop, and I don't think it's particularly reliable.
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Post by: Sean465 on 22 March 2012, 15:09

hmmmm, very interesting. Not taking much notice of the pi55artist impression, more the engine. Very similar to my my mates tt, which has 211 bhp and 255 lb/ft. Mid range shove will be fantastic..
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Post by: PenguinGTI on 22 March 2012, 15:17
Sums up the article for me

"Tellingly, there will also be a Bluemotion Golf GTI this time - riding on skinnier tyres, with longer gearing and a recalibrated ECU..."

 :rolleyes:

Real motoring authority.


hmmmm, very interesting. Not taking much notice of the pi55artist impression, more the engine. Very similar to my my mates tt, which has 211 bhp and 255 lb/ft. Mid range shove will be fantastic..

Exactly, this article doesn't actually reveal anything about the car. They've simply amalgamated random aspects and tried to manufacture a GTI story. The artist's impression is a dodgy photo-shop, the mechanical performance statistics are simply imported from another VAG model and this is summed up by the revelation that VW are going to make a Bluemotion GTI.

Please  :laugh:, at least wait until the 1st of April before making such jokes.
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Post by: PenguinGTI on 22 March 2012, 15:18
In fact, now that I read my own post back...

...tarted up looks...

...imported mechanicals from other VAG models...

..."bluemotion GTI"...


Sounds more like an Edition 35  :laugh:
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Post by: Sean465 on 22 March 2012, 15:28
 :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: now that did make me laugh......(no offence Edi35 Owners!!)
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Post by: david25 on 22 March 2012, 15:43
The Bluemotion story may have some truth, VW are making the Polo Blue GT, a warm eco hatch thing:

http://www.autocar.co.uk/www.autocar.co.uk/News/NewsArticle/AllCars/261628/ (http://www.autocar.co.uk/www.autocar.co.uk/News/NewsArticle/AllCars/261628/)
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Post by: PenguinGTI on 22 March 2012, 15:52
The Bluemotion story may have some truth, VW are making the Polo Blue GT, a warm eco hatch thing:

http://www.autocar.co.uk/www.autocar.co.uk/News/NewsArticle/AllCars/261628/ (http://www.autocar.co.uk/www.autocar.co.uk/News/NewsArticle/AllCars/261628/)

Hmm, though it's not quite a bluemotion GTI.
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Post by: Jimble on 22 March 2012, 16:41
Jesus wept! It's not even a decent photoshop! I really wish they'd stop fcuking putting these "mk7 revealed" type articles out!  :angry:
Title: Re: VW Golf GTI Mk7 (2013) CAR Mag scoop
Post by: david25 on 22 March 2012, 19:35
The Bluemotion story may have some truth, VW are making the Polo Blue GT, a warm eco hatch thing:

http://www.autocar.co.uk/www.autocar.co.uk/News/NewsArticle/AllCars/261628/ (http://www.autocar.co.uk/www.autocar.co.uk/News/NewsArticle/AllCars/261628/)

Hmm, though it's not quite a bluemotion GTI.


No, but you could imagine a "Golf Blue GTI" with the 1.8T or 2.0T with cylinder deactivation, only 17" wheels and the full Bluemotion aero undertray, no?
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Post by: Jimmymature on 22 March 2012, 20:02

I reckon the artist in Car Magazine was given five minutes to design a MK7 and gone with it. All these pictures that will be coming out are nothing but a way to sell mags and make it look like they are in the know!

When I see the real car and see the real figures then and only then will I form an opinion.


Jim
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Post by: PenguinGTI on 22 March 2012, 22:24
The Bluemotion story may have some truth, VW are making the Polo Blue GT, a warm eco hatch thing:

http://www.autocar.co.uk/www.autocar.co.uk/News/NewsArticle/AllCars/261628/ (http://www.autocar.co.uk/www.autocar.co.uk/News/NewsArticle/AllCars/261628/)

Hmm, though it's not quite a bluemotion GTI.


No, but you could imagine a "Golf Blue GTI" with the 1.8T or 2.0T with cylinder deactivation, only 17" wheels and the full Bluemotion aero undertray, no?

I get what you mean, and I agree. In fact I reckon a Bluemotion model with GTI styling would be a very popular option - the current Mk6 bluemotion is a great looking car actually, but the magazine comes across more as suggesting that VW will be trying to compromise between economy and performance...

...GTD, GT, TSI - aren't these already sort of "cheaper running costs with added sportiness" models?

For example, with regards to the Polo, I think a Polo GTD would sell better (think Ibiza FR, Fabia VRS Gen1)
Title: Re: VW Golf GTI Mk7 (2013) CAR Mag scoop
Post by: PenguinGTI on 22 March 2012, 22:36

I reckon the artist in Car Magazine was given five minutes to design a MK7 and gone with it. All these pictures that will be coming out are nothing but a way to sell mags and make it look like they are in the know!

When I see the real car and see the real figures then and only then will I form an opinion.


Jim

Quite agree with you Jim, although the front is growing on me (still don't like the back though).
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Post by: Snoopy on 22 March 2012, 22:47
Maybe reintroduce the driver model then. As there basically gti looks but more economy.
Current bluemotion looks like an R anyway  :tongue:
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Post by: jdjd on 23 March 2012, 00:26
Maybe reintroduce the driver model then. As there basically gti looks but more economy.
Current bluemotion looks like an R anyway  :tongue:

Burn but unfortunately not lol
Title: Re: VW Golf GTI Mk7 (2013) CAR Mag scoop
Post by: david25 on 23 March 2012, 10:32
The Bluemotion story may have some truth, VW are making the Polo Blue GT, a warm eco hatch thing:

http://www.autocar.co.uk/www.autocar.co.uk/News/NewsArticle/AllCars/261628/ (http://www.autocar.co.uk/www.autocar.co.uk/News/NewsArticle/AllCars/261628/)

Hmm, though it's not quite a bluemotion GTI.


No, but you could imagine a "Golf Blue GTI" with the 1.8T or 2.0T with cylinder deactivation, only 17" wheels and the full Bluemotion aero undertray, no?

I get what you mean, and I agree. In fact I reckon a Bluemotion model with GTI styling would be a very popular option - the current Mk6 bluemotion is a great looking car actually, but the magazine comes across more as suggesting that VW will be trying to compromise between economy and performance...

...GTD, GT, TSI - aren't these already sort of "cheaper running costs with added sportiness" models?

For example, with regards to the Polo, I think a Polo GTD would sell better (think Ibiza FR, Fabia VRS Gen1)

GTD and similar are a mix of sport and economy, however I think VW's marketing machine is focusing on this new-ish niche with the Blue label with
a message of you can have your cake and eat it.

With regards to the Polo, my personnal preference would be for the new Blue model, 60mpg and the sweet 1.4 engine.
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Post by: dubber36 on 23 March 2012, 10:59
Maybe reintroduce the driver model then.


Surely that's the GT?
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Post by: Snoopy on 23 March 2012, 12:09
The GT does not have the GTI styling though. I guess the GTD is the modern version of the golf Driver.
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Post by: dubber36 on 23 March 2012, 12:38
The GT does not have the GTI styling though. I guess the GTD is the modern version of the golf Driver.


Granted, but Driver only had the GTI's wheel arches, rear spoiler, twin headlight grille and 14" steel wheels. Everything else was fairly basic spec.

I'm sure that with the exception of the ride height, rear bumper/exhaust and seat fabric, the GTD is identical to the GTI. Infact you can cross off seat fabric from that list now, as they both get leather.
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Post by: GolfTi on 23 March 2012, 13:06
Pure speculation from car mag.
They have as much idea what the mk7 will look like as you or I.



I'd like to see more unique styling for the GTI so that people don't ever confuse it with a GTD  :wink:
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Post by: JoeGTI on 23 March 2012, 13:11
The GT does not have the GTI styling though. I guess the GTD is the modern version of the golf Driver.


I'm sure that with the exception of the ride height, rear bumper/exhaust and seat fabric, the GTD is identical to the GTI. Infact you can cross off seat fabric from that list now, as they both get leather.

GTD differences:

Wheels
Rear exhausts
White stitching on wheel / handbrake, gear lever, floor mats, rather than red
chrome trim on grill rather than red
no red brake calipers

I'm not sure there's any difference in ride height, though I may be wrong!

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Post by: Snoopy on 23 March 2012, 17:17
The GT does not have the GTI styling though. I guess the GTD is the modern version of the golf Driver.


Granted, but Driver only had the GTI's wheel arches, rear spoiler, twin headlight grille and 14" steel wheels. Everything else was fairly basic spec.

I'm sure that with the exception of the ride height, rear bumper/exhaust and seat fabric, the GTD is identical to the GTI. Infact you can cross off seat fabric from that list now, as they both get leather.
mk 2 was less similar than the mk1 version.
Title: Re: VW Golf GTI Mk7 (2013) CAR Mag scoop
Post by: DubaiGTI on 22 April 2012, 07:51
http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/Secret-new-cars/Search-Results/Spyshots/VW-Golf-GTI-Mk7-2013-CARs-new-scoop/

Detailed article. 
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Post by: Gene Hunt. on 22 April 2012, 08:15
I hope they do bin the Monza alloys,well past there sell by date now.
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Post by: Jimmymature on 22 April 2012, 10:02
I hope they do bin the Monza alloys,well past there sell by date now.

I don't agree, I'm still comments from people about my wheels even strangers in the street comment.



Jim
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Post by: andykram on 22 April 2012, 10:19
I bought this mag for this article while on hols last week. They seemed to be saying the ST and VXR were far the better hot hatches. The GTi as usual with its 217 would be off the pace but will be the consumate all rounder as it is now.

So no real change as far as I can see!!!
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Post by: gizzywizzy on 22 April 2012, 12:02
The GTI offers the consummate all round package in that it is a soft hot hatch but can also do the school run, the weekly shopping run and you can get a baby buggy and luggage in the boot.

Doubt anyone will say these new additions from Vauxhall and Ford will prove so practical.
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Post by: Jimmymature on 22 April 2012, 12:48
The GTI offers the consummate all round package in that it is a soft hot hatch but can also do the school run, the weekly shopping run and you can get a baby buggy and luggage in the boot.

Doubt anyone will say these new additions from Vauxhall and Ford will prove so practical.

Not so sure that the ST won't be pushing the GTI more this time round.  Now it doesn't have the gas guzzling engine and stupid turning circle I bet the new ST will be challenging the MK7 GTI a bit further than the old ST did.

I certainly will be test driving one when they come out.


Jim
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Post by: I.D.C. on 22 April 2012, 15:15
I bought this mag for this article while on hols last week. They seemed to be saying the ST and VXR were far the better hot hatches. The GTi as usual with its 217 would be off the pace but will be the consumate all rounder as it is now.

So no real change as far as I can see!!!
What a lot of nonsense - I have the magazine also and it dose not say the Focus and VAX are better. It's a quality car magazine that only puts it's conclusions down when cars have been test driven. Wait for the real world driving before looking closely at the numbers
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Post by: andykram on 23 April 2012, 20:24
It said they'd be "more focussed", "faster" etc. Forget I used the word "better" then - wrong choice of word. Everything else is just stuff we knew already.
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Post by: Cliff_944 on 24 April 2012, 07:48
This is interesting
http://m.automobilemag.com/features/news/1204_deep_dive_volkswagen_group_product_plans/index.html
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Post by: Buck on 24 April 2012, 10:48
This is interesting
http://m.automobilemag.com/features/news/1204_deep_dive_volkswagen_group_product_plans/index.html

Cliff
Good find there. Interesting read on the new models too.
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Post by: Steve30 on 24 April 2012, 16:10
Liking that.  It is not too far removed from the mk6.  See they are persisting with monzas, guess VW aren't bothered by white worm issues.

Hw much do we reckon, shall start saving now, though I am tempted by the Astra VXR.

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They just fall to bits and remember its still front wheel drive motor with all that power going through ?? :sick:
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Post by: Gene Hunt. on 24 April 2012, 20:20
I hope they do bin the Monza alloys,well past there sell by date now.

I don't agree, I'm still comments from people about my wheels even strangers in the street comment.



Jim
.......sorry mate but for the trouble they take to stop the dreaded ''white worm'' they need a new style. Ed 30 or the ED 35 look spot on.
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Post by: Edi35 on 29 April 2012, 21:31
I hope they do bin the Monza alloys,well past there sell by date now.

I don't agree, I'm still comments from people about my wheels even strangers in the street comment.



Jim
.......sorry mate but for the trouble they take to stop the dreaded ''white worm'' they need a new style. Ed 30 or the ED 35 look spot on.

ED30 & 35 wheels are great however Monza Shadows are even better. I have had 3 VW's with Diamond cut finish on the wheels and no white worm yet. Just wash them every week and don't kerb them.
Title: Re: VW Golf GTI Mk7 (2013) CAR Mag scoop
Post by: PenguinGTI on 09 May 2012, 00:47
http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/Secret-new-cars/Search-Results/Spyshots/VW-Golf-Mk7-2013-the-inside-story/

Just came across this article. In terms of literature it doesn't seem to add too much that's new but the pictures are a bit better than some of the proposals that have been floating around the web.
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Post by: mkviken on 09 May 2012, 09:04
Wow it us the engines will be 16-22kg lighter than mk6

Wonder what the 2.0TSI version will weigh in. It was already 10kg lighter than mk5 I think.

Along with the lighter body this will make it a much better car to drive.

The worst part of the mk6 dynamically is its nose heavy feeling.
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Post by: I_want_GTI on 09 May 2012, 22:32
http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/Secret-new-cars/Search-Results/Spyshots/VW-Golf-Mk7-2013-the-inside-story/

Just came across this article. In terms of literature it doesn't seem to add too much that's new but the pictures are a bit better than some of the proposals that have been floating around the web.

That looks more and more like the Seat Ibiza - Think its the MK6 for me..!
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Post by: Edi35 on 10 May 2012, 11:38
I like it  :smiley:
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Post by: tconl on 10 May 2012, 21:45
it will grow on us like all the others did
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Post by: Mr GTD on 10 May 2012, 23:32
Looks to similar to what we've already got..
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Post by: PenguinGTI on 11 May 2012, 11:05
If anything I think the Mk6 is currently the looker of the newish Golfs (Mk5, Mk6 and proposed Mk7). The Mk5 for me has always been a bit too round (especially the bum) whereas the Mk6 brought in just the right amount of angular design to look aggressive, modern and overall very stylish (all in my own opinion of course). The Mk7 looks a little bit too angular for my liking - it's lost some of the roundness of the Mk6 and also has unnecessarily complicated lines (tail-lights are an example).
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Post by: Mr GTD on 11 May 2012, 11:59
If anything I think the Mk6 is currently the looker of the newish Golfs (Mk5, Mk6 and proposed Mk7). The Mk5 for me has always been a bit too round (especially the bum) whereas the Mk6 brought in just the right amount of angular design to look aggressive, modern and overall very stylish (all in my own opinion of course). The Mk7 looks a little bit too angular for my liking - it's lost some of the roundness of the Mk6 and also has unnecessarily complicated lines (tail-lights are an example).

+1 wud definately have to agree with all that...the MK6 is definately the looker of the bunch and proposed MK7(in my opinion of course)
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Post by: I_want_GTI on 13 May 2012, 01:04
If anything I think the Mk6 is currently the looker of the newish Golfs (Mk5, Mk6 and proposed Mk7). The Mk5 for me has always been a bit too round (especially the bum) whereas the Mk6 brought in just the right amount of angular design to look aggressive, modern and overall very stylish (all in my own opinion of course). The Mk7 looks a little bit too angular for my liking - it's lost some of the roundness of the Mk6 and also has unnecessarily complicated lines (tail-lights are an example).

+1 wud definately have to agree with all that...the MK6 is definately the looker of the bunch and proposed MK7(in my opinion of course)
+1
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Post by: Snoopy on 13 May 2012, 05:01
+1 from me too I was never that happy with the round euro bubble mk5 great car but just did not seem like a golf.
All my own view and personal opinion. Were as the mk6 makes me smile when I see it or sit in it.