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Title: Fair fuel prices
Post by: Neo Badness on 18 March 2012, 15:55
Just to maintain the illusion of democracy, if you follow the link and submit it. Perhaps nothing will change, but can't complain about it if you don't sign. Well you can complain but it will sound hollow and false.

http://action.fairfueluk.com/page/speakout/CutFuelDutyNow

Or we finally form armed militias to overthrow Cameron and his cronies old boys club just for the sheer satisfaction of watching that smug grin fade from his fat vapid face as he is told he's been found guilty of the rape of this country he'll be first against the wall. Then we hunt down Blair... As the news spreads and the country erupts into spontaneous rapturous applause, neighbors shakes hands, old ladies cry tears of joy in the street. It's over. We are free from tyranny. No longer are the poor subjugated for the benefit of the rich. We can govern our land justly by people we actually voted for who have more than self interest at heart. This would once again be a green and pleasant land of new ideas, prosperity and hope for our children and our childrens children.


Or we can rustle our morning papers a bit more noisily than usual and mutter darkly into our coffee mugs...
 :smiley:
Title: Re: Fair fuel prices
Post by: raptorSE on 18 March 2012, 19:42
Now I don't like the French but when it comes to sticking together they do a good job. Motorists need to get together and start blocking ports etc It's getting beyond a joke now. 90p a litre is tax for these fat cats to fill there pockets  :angry:
Title: Re: Fair fuel prices
Post by: Neo Badness on 19 March 2012, 08:16
British people are too british to protest in large numbers and forget that there are more of "us" than "them".  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Fair fuel prices
Post by: sharki786 on 19 March 2012, 18:03
fileld out the form butthis is the 3rd time. i think its a joke going up by 16p. we are already getting f*cjed by insurance and tax going up and fuel but now its getting to a joke stage. these c*nts are greedy as fcuk. nothing else to say :angry:
Title: Re: Fair fuel prices
Post by: dTEA on 19 March 2012, 22:41
British people are too british to protest in large numbers and forget that there are more of "us" than "them".  :rolleyes:
But they have eyes everywhere with CCTV and as the riots proved they will hunt you down and treat you as tho you raped their mothers with the sentences they hand out. Still agree with you tho
Title: Re: Fair fuel prices
Post by: Mr GTD on 20 March 2012, 11:03
British people are too british to protest in large numbers and forget that there are more of "us" than "them".  :rolleyes:
But they have eyes everywhere with CCTV and as the riots proved they will hunt you down and treat you as tho you raped their mothers with the sentences they hand out. Still agree with you tho

Agree!
Title: Re: Fair fuel prices
Post by: Roverdose on 20 March 2012, 11:11
(http://www.eltvista.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/v-for-vendetta.jpg)

+1 there ARE more of us than them ANARCHY!  :grin:
Title: Re: Fair fuel prices
Post by: Neo Badness on 20 March 2012, 11:40
(http://www.eltvista.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/v-for-vendetta.jpg)

+1 there ARE more of us than them ANARCHY!  :grin:

+2 :smiley:
Title: Re: Fair fuel prices
Post by: raptorSE on 20 March 2012, 11:54
=3
Title: Re: Fair fuel prices
Post by: Neo Badness on 20 March 2012, 11:57
=3

vs the government and corporations, sounds like good odds to me.  :tongue:
Title: Re: Fair fuel prices
Post by: Neo Badness on 20 March 2012, 11:58
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDW_Hj2K0wo
Title: Re: Fair fuel prices
Post by: Khare on 20 March 2012, 12:02
British people are too british to protest in large numbers and forget that there are more of "us" than "them".  :rolleyes:
But they have eyes everywhere with CCTV and as the riots proved they will hunt you down and treat you as tho you raped their mothers with the sentences they hand out. Still agree with you tho

Thing is, people think that they need to cause vandalism and crime in a protest. The original point of a protest is a peaceful march of large numbers of people behaving like adults should and stating clearly their point of views. In the part of Spain I'm from they do protests all the time and even though the police are present, no one gets arrested, beaten, or convicted. In the UK and in most places when there's a protest you always see molotov cocktails being thrown, some cuffed pikey, blood, etc. People seem to think that you need to break a royal's car window, set fire to a city, throw fire extinguishers from high buildings and loot every shop possible.
Title: Re: Fair fuel prices
Post by: Kerrse on 20 March 2012, 12:09
Protest & petitions are pointless, we need to look at the way our country is run as we have been getting f**ked by every goverment for as long as i can remember. We seem to suffer why they all live perfect lives in luxury..time for revolution i say  :cool:
Title: Re: Fair fuel prices
Post by: logeyboy on 20 March 2012, 12:18
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Title: Re: Fair fuel prices
Post by: Roverdose on 20 March 2012, 12:56
come election time you can put a cross across the whole ballot sheet, tear it in 2 and it's regestered as a no vote. If more people did this they would have to notice. However a government would still have been elected. I hate that there's no other option than the usual eaton educated wino toffs or racists to vote for, we need a revolutionary. We need luke skywalker!
Title: Re: Fair fuel prices
Post by: VR6_Wherry on 20 March 2012, 14:04
i'm quite lucky where i live, it's not too bad! 115.9p :)

Super unleaded at 118.9

http://www.jerseyfuelwatch.com/
Title: Re: Fair fuel prices
Post by: Neo Badness on 20 March 2012, 14:22
I do agree that protest doesn't need to result in violence.

However, either through frustration or opportunism someone spoils it for everyone else. An already twitchy government utilise these happenings to further their own ends.
Civil Liberties are clamped down upon as result. The rights of the individual are circumvented whilst the profits of shareholders are paramount. I have voted in every election since I was of age and feel no progress is being made.

It's a feeling of helplessness, of seeing the problem but being unable to do anything about it. So frustrating knowing other people feel the same yet nothing else comes of it. Divided and conquered...

Can I argue that this life of drudgery I am being forced into by the government and big business is a form of torture and challenge them under the human rights act..?! It's life, but not living. Why should that only be the preserve of the rich?

 
Title: Re: Fair fuel prices
Post by: raptorSE on 20 March 2012, 14:25
Should have a box marked vote of no confidence id be ticking that  :angry:
Title: Re: Fair fuel prices
Post by: CJA321 on 20 March 2012, 14:33
Something really does need to happen.... Everyone i speak to is unhappy, but noone is willing to do anything. We need change!!!!! Scottish independance seemed stupid untill now!!  :shocked:
Title: Re: Fair fuel prices
Post by: Neo Badness on 20 March 2012, 14:34
Should have a box marked vote of no confidence id be ticking that  :angry:

Hadn't really seriously considered it previously as Alex Salmond is a fat thingy too but, I am considering voting yes for Scottish Independence just in the hope that it'll wipe the smile off that smug prick Camerons face.
Title: Re: Fair fuel prices
Post by: Roverdose on 20 March 2012, 14:48
Should have a box marked vote of no confidence id be ticking that  :angry:
+1
maybe we should start an e petition on the .gov website? less talk more action i say! We need to embrace the law of the land, as long as you don't steal and don't hurt anyone then everything should be fine! I don't see why things get so complicated! I posted this website up before but im gonna do it again anyway.

http://www.tpuc.org/

Title: Re: Fair fuel prices
Post by: Neo Badness on 20 March 2012, 14:56

http://www.tpuc.org/




God I hate websites that constantly use italics to condescend to the reader despite advocating that they stand for the contrary. :rolleyes:

Why can't they simply present the facts and allow people make their own decisions based on information supplied? I will persevere with reading other parts of the website to what they have to offer though.
Title: Re: Fair fuel prices
Post by: CJA321 on 20 March 2012, 15:05
Should have a box marked vote of no confidence id be ticking that  :angry:

Hadn't really seriously considered it previously as Alex Salmond is a fat thingy too but, I am considering voting yes for Scottish Independence just in the hope that it'll wipe the smile off that smug prick Camerons face.

Salmond is an ass as well as you say.... Loads better than scameron though....
Title: Re: Fair fuel prices
Post by: Roverdose on 20 March 2012, 15:11
the forums pretty good, theres alot i didn't know until i read it. did you know under common law the law of the land a policeman has no jurastriction over you unless you verbally give him your name! They can't do anything until you actually say it. Didn't beleive it until they tried to give me points. Refused, got chucked out of court. UNBELEIVABLE!
Title: Re: Fair fuel prices
Post by: Neo Badness on 20 March 2012, 15:17
did you know under common law the law of the land a policeman has no jurastriction over you unless you verbally give him your name! They can't do anything until you actually say it. Didn't beleive it until they tried to give me points. Refused, got chucked out of court. UNBELEIVABLE!

Is that true? You refused to give them your name and foof court adjourned you are free to go?

Did you know that Fanta (Owned by Coca Cola PLC) came about in 1939 when they wanted to sell to Nazi Germany but not corrupt their wholesome all American image? It's about profit not people.
Title: Re: Fair fuel prices
Post by: Roverdose on 20 March 2012, 15:35
basicly you refuse to give them you name, they will play tricks on you to get you to say it and everything. you quote the law of the land aka i havn't hurt anyone or stolen anything and by refusing to divulge your name verbally im refusing to you jurastiction over me. when i say it gets thrown out of court i mean it doesnt make it that far. it cant go that far as they have no jurastriction over you. did you also know your car doesnt have to be regestered with dvla or licensed! its all legal but it WILL get towed and you will have to go through the legal process again and again every time it happens but you can also sue them for costs and damages when they do it. not worth doing imo as it is a massive waste of time and will cost you in the long run, but i love how nobody publicises that you dont actually have to listen to dvla nazis.
Title: Re: Fair fuel prices
Post by: plasticfantastic on 20 March 2012, 15:37
All the stuff your talking about comes under 'Freemans Law' Read up about it, its very interesting. It explains how our law system dates back and is still based upon maritime law which is why you step into a 'dock'. Also by doing so your agreeing that you are the corporation of yourself, which is why your name appears as capitals on things such as a birth certificate. They have leagal controll over 'JOE BLOGGS' because he is classed as a registered coporation, wheres as Joe from the family bloggs is a free entiny on the land, who only needs to live by the common laws of the land.
Title: Re: Fair fuel prices
Post by: dTEA on 20 March 2012, 15:44
But how many of us/you would use any of this and feel able to with no recourse from the officialdom? You need to be very knowledgable in the first instance as sub acts etc can get you in even more hot water.
Title: Re: Fair fuel prices
Post by: Roverdose on 20 March 2012, 15:48
agreed. you can use freeman law to get out of debt. i wonder if you can de-regester yourself...
Title: Re: Fair fuel prices
Post by: Roverdose on 20 March 2012, 15:51
or would changing my name to Ian of the familly Gowland-Jones work at all?
Title: Re: Fair fuel prices
Post by: Neo Badness on 22 March 2012, 12:19
http://action.fairfueluk.com/page/s/fairfueluk-stop-this-fuel-price-madness

Sign up
Title: Re: Fair fuel prices
Post by: scarr89 on 22 March 2012, 17:24
fileld out the form butthis is the 3rd time. i think its a joke going up by 16p. we are already getting f*cjed by insurance and tax going up and fuel but now its getting to a joke stage. these c*nts are greedy as fcuk. nothing else to say :angry:

We are all getting raped by insurance due to the way the compensation 'scheme' has gone, with lawyers constantly hassling you to claim for a broken nail and with  people putting on whip lash to get a couple of grand.

I don't think the increase in tax will go to line the fat cats pockets...
Title: Re: Fair fuel prices
Post by: thai-wronghorse on 23 March 2012, 21:44
All this 'Freemans law' stuff is very interesting indeed.
Title: Re: Fair fuel prices
Post by: Gavv8 on 23 March 2012, 21:54
£1.50 a litre for unleaded coming to a garage near you.............. :angry: :sad:
Title: Re: Fair fuel prices
Post by: Britman on 24 March 2012, 10:07
the governments are run by corperations basicly thet have a say in background, usa is worst for this. So it will never go down unless major public protest some how, they managed it with koni to get government to act in usa shame knowone can lead something here over some issues. I recommend watchin zeitgeist or loose change free docs to watch if google them, if have half a day spare to watch them ha. It bascily shows how world really run and how federal bank is run and fraction reserve banking etc and general history most. teh federal reserve is private bank lending to government same with one in uk as well most people dont even know  :laugh:. Shame most people dont care and just carry on with there lives oblivious.
Title: Re: Fair fuel prices
Post by: Ant1981 on 24 March 2012, 10:14
How much will be 'too much'?
Title: Re: Fair fuel prices
Post by: Neo Badness on 25 March 2012, 00:57
People are poor and can't see that they work to buy shyte they don't actually need.

Vid is less than 5mins and focuses on the US but it would equally apply in Europe. I also like the drawings.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HR-YrD_KB0M&feature=colike
Title: Re: Fair fuel prices
Post by: scarr89 on 25 March 2012, 02:48
I filled up with £76.06 of diesel today, that will get me about 550 miles. Absolutely horrendous. I could just fill up once a month and visit my parents & GF once a month, but life just ISN'T that easy. FOL - f**k OUR lives.
Title: Re: Fair fuel prices
Post by: Gavv8 on 25 March 2012, 09:42
The price of fuel won't go down and anyone who thinks it will is kidding themselves, its a foolproof way for any government to pay for phoney budget 'gifts' and tax concessions, i think a better way to save money is to change your driving habits by re-educating yourself to drive with economy in mind which is far more eco-friendly and cost effective than rushing out to buy a smaller engined/efficient car.
My old Mk3 is worth shirt buttons now and if i really wanted to i could go and buy something that is much cheaper to run without trying as hard but i'm pretty sure those savings would shrink to a negligible point just as quickly so i'm just going to try and be a better driver and if we ever have to go back to canals and river travel at least i'll already have a boat  :wink:
Title: Re: Fair fuel prices
Post by: plasticfantastic on 25 March 2012, 10:34
Did you know that Fanta (Owned by Coca Cola PLC) came about in 1939 when they wanted to sell to Nazi Germany but not corrupt their wholesome all American image? It's about profit not people.

Its was a similar story with IBM who made most of their money by building custom machines for the Nazis during the war. The machines were never sold to the Nazis but rented to them. American IBM engineers worked on the machines, in germany, regularly throughout the war but to this day they still say that they had no idea what the machines where used for.  The machines they built where to count the Jews as they went into the gas chambers.

the governments are run by corperations basicly thet have a say in background, usa is worst for this. So it will never go down unless major public protest some how, they managed it with koni to get government to act in usa shame knowone can lead something here over some issues. I recommend watchin zeitgeist or loose change free docs to watch if google them, if have half a day spare to watch them ha. It bascily shows how world really run and how federal bank is run and fraction reserve banking etc and general history most. teh federal reserve is private bank lending to government same with one in uk as well most people dont even know  :laugh:. Shame most people dont care and just carry on with there lives oblivious.

Agreed, more people need to realise this. Also people really need to try and understand the concept of money more, because once you do it is really easy to see why our 'economy' is in collapse, along with the rest of the world.

Debt based money doesnt work, we are playing a continual game of catch up to keep up with the interest that is created on our money. Im not just talking about the individual who gets a loan or a mortgage (although this still creates an inetrest debt where the money will never exist to repay  it) but mainly on a government level. Before 1913 the government created our money when they needed it, costing them nothing. Now we let the Bank Of England print it for us, then we pay them for the privalage with interest. But that interest that is added is never money that actually exists. If you ever wondered where your income tax goes, it goes straight to the bank of england to pay for the interest on our 'money'.
Title: Re: Fair fuel prices
Post by: Steve_PD on 25 March 2012, 11:04
I filled up with £76.06 of diesel today, that will get me about 550 miles. Absolutely horrendous. I could just fill up once a month and visit my parents & GF once a month, but life just ISN'T that easy. FOL - f**k OUR lives.

I put that in at least once a week just to get to work and back. Any pleasure driving I got to fill up again :sad:

A couple garages by me are now charging 151.9p for diesel :sick: But I go 4 miles to the M4 motorway services and pay 146.9p figure that one
Title: Re: Fair fuel prices
Post by: JC on 25 March 2012, 11:13
I fill up once every 10 days or so. All commuting.

Just found a house within 500 yards of my work. Think I will snap it up of the fuel price keeps rising
Title: Re: Fair fuel prices
Post by: scarr89 on 25 March 2012, 12:18
I fill up once every 10 days or so. All commuting.

Just found a house within 500 yards of my work. Think I will snap it up of the fuel price keeps rising

Walking/cycling/other means of transport seems to be the way to go. TBH I am very lucky that I can walk to work, and only commute home to see my family. I think 'living' at work and then commuting to see family is probably cheaper than living at home and commuting to work.

Within 2 years time I reckon it will £2 for a litre of diesel, then what are people going to do when it costs ~£100 to fill up just to drive 400-500miles? Are we all just going to stop having social lives and tell work to pay us more so we can actually get to work? The world is going to collapse very soon.
Title: Re: Fair fuel prices
Post by: Gavv8 on 25 March 2012, 14:29
I live in the sticks and have a 30 mile round trip to work every day...put about £40 a week in the tank and that includes a bit of running around although we've got a little 1.4 206 for longer trips so i'm not struggling just yet, its the tax and insurance that i get annoyed about and having just insured my daughter for the first time , this makes petrol look like good vfm..