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Model specific boards => Golf mk6 => Topic started by: dubber36 on 03 March 2012, 20:25
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Today I followed the excellent guide on here, and fitted my OEM bluetooth kit.
I've managed to code it and got all the functions on the RCD510 and MFSW to work as they should, but no one can hear me. When in the Phone Menu of the RCD510, I press "Extras" and at the top of the list it that comes up, it says "Microphone off". Can anyone please help me turn the "Microphone on"?
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Pull the mic connector apart and switch it the other way round.
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Which one Steve? At the radio or the mic end?
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Could someone with an RCD510 and factory Bluetooth, please pop their radio out and take a picture of the plug into the back of it please?
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Pm Darren mate, he had this issue when fiiting mine, something to do with the loom being setup for an RNS???
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Could someone with an RCD510 and factory Bluetooth, please pop their radio out and take a picture of the plug into the back of it please?
@dubber 36
Here's a link of the manual I have
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/53055884/Bluetooth%20retrofit%20manual.pdf
Lookup on page 6 of the manual. It shows wiring configuration you need to have for RCD 510. In summary the mic needs to be connected direct to bluetooth module.
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Thank you skander. Top man.
That's just what I needed. Now why couldn't the dealers tell me that?
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Hmmmmm, still not quite there yet.
Can anyone who sells, fits or had fitted OEM bluetooth, is the patch/piggyback loom a factory part, or is it made up like an aftermarket one? The reason I ask is that TPS have sent me the ETKA picture of the factory fitted mic and it seems to be part of the main loom that goes to the roof console to power the interior lights, sunroof, alarm ultrasonics etc. In the kit that I have, the mic is separate to the rest of the cars original wiring and is part of the patch loom.
(http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t264/dubber36/SAM_8198.jpg)
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Again just what Darren tells me, VW don't sell the looms they have to be made.
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Nearly there.
Thanks to everyone who has given some input so far. It seems that the mic has to be plugged directly into the module. the multi plug into the module has some spare terminals. No's 6,7,10,13,14,15 and 16. There will be a special prize for the first person to come along and tell me the correct terminals for me to connect the mic into. :smiley:
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Could someone with an RCD510 and factory Bluetooth, please pop their radio out and take a picture of the plug into the back of it please?
@dubber 36
Here's a link of the manual I have
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/53055884/Bluetooth%20retrofit%20manual.pdf
Lookup on page 6 of the manual. It shows wiring configuration you need to have for RCD 510. In summary the mic needs to be connected direct to bluetooth module.
Sorry to hi jack this thread, but would this be why voice commands don't work after retrofitting RNS 510 in place of the RCD 510?
The firmware on the RNS supports it (and it has the star button) but the RNS simply can't "hear" me say anything. Bluetooth phone calls work fine. So I am thinking the cable is set up for RCD 510 and needs to be set up for RNS 510 ?
So is the piggy back cable what plugs into the RCD/RNS ? or is it something else?
Thanks,
Scott
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Scott, the piggy back cable is an aftermarket lead for retro fitting the OEM bluetooth module. Your car will have the required wiring for the RCD510 and bluetooth as part of the original loom, but will not have the correct connections for voice control on the RNS.
As your mic wiring will be part of the original loom to the roof console, it will be difficult to re-plug the other end into the RNS, rather than the bluetooth module where it currently is. I would suggest that the easiest way to get yours to work would be to fit another aftermarket mic (like the one in my kit) and connect it into the bluetooth plug (small black one) in the big multi plug that connects into the back of your RNS.
I hope that makes sense.
Simon
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Nearly there.
Thanks to everyone who has given some input so far. It seems that the mic has to be plugged directly into the module. the multi plug into the module has some spare terminals. No's 6,7,10,13,14,15 and 16. There will be a special prize for the first person to come along and tell me the correct terminals for me to connect the mic into. :smiley:
Is that on the radio or the bluetooth module?
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HERE (http://www.my-gti.com/1313/volkswagen-rcd-510-pin-assignments) are the pinouts for the back of the RCD510.
And HERE (http://www.my-gti.com/173/volkswagen-skoda-bluetooth-pinouts) are the pinouts for the bluetooth connector.
Not sure if you have seen these.
The way my RNS510 is wired is, the Microphone +/- pins are connected to the RNS510 microphone input pins and the RNS510 microphone output pins are connected to the Bluetooth microphone input pins.
I think the RCD510 should be the same.
So Microphone +/- goes to Pin 1 and 7 on the RCD510 connector and Pins 9 and 4 from the RCD510 are connected to Pins 11 and 12 on the bluetooth module.
Do I get the special Prize :laugh:
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Scott, the piggy back cable is an aftermarket lead for retro fitting the OEM bluetooth module. Your car will have the required wiring for the RCD510 and bluetooth as part of the original loom, but will not have the correct connections for voice control on the RNS.
As your mic wiring will be part of the original loom to the roof console, it will be difficult to re-plug the other end into the RNS, rather than the bluetooth module where it currently is. I would suggest that the easiest way to get yours to work would be to fit another aftermarket mic (like the one in my kit) and connect it into the bluetooth plug (small black one) in the big multi plug that connects into the back of your RNS.
I hope that makes sense.
Simon
Hi Simon, thanks. What a ball ache for something I probably won't use! I've disabled the star button via VAG COM so it just repeats the navigation commands for now. That will do, unless I decide voice control is absolutely needed. I was hoping it would be something I could change quickly so it would work. Shame, but again, thanks for your help.
Cheers,
Scott
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It is a ball ache. When the dealer says you can't retro fit parts, in a way they are right. You can't without a bit of modification or aftermarket parts.
What beats me is why they can't just make one wiring loom for a Golf that would run every possible option and fit that into every car. Instead, they make a loom specific to the spec of each particular car. Surely the logistics of this outweigh any financial saving my cutting back on a few meters of wire and a couple of connectors that cost pence.
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It is a ball ache. When the dealer says you can't retro fit parts, in a way they are right. You can't without a bit of modification or aftermarket parts.
What beats me is why they can't just make one wiring loom for a Golf that would run every possible option and fit that into every car. Instead, they make a loom specific to the spec of each particular car. Surely the logistics of this outweigh any financial saving my cutting back on a few meters of wire and a couple of connectors that cost pence.
Lol that's what I thought they would do as it makes sense to have a single loom that does everything - but maybe they do it to discourage retrofits. :undecided:
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Also if you don't want to loop through the RCD510 then the Mic +/- goes to Pin 11 and Pin 12 on the bluetooth module end.
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Cheers Mike.
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I have to admit I didn't have any issues with the RCD510 it just worked. I can take the radio out at the weekend if necessary, but I dont really want to as I got away without breaking any tabs on the front. Although I am not sure the aerials are connected that well. It seems the radio receptions not been as good since I retro fitted.
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I can take the radio out at the weekend if necessary,
No need anymore thank you.
I trial fitted the kit into my Father-in-laws Passat (with RNS) and he was so impressed with how it worked, he asked if he could keep it. So deal done, but I'm now bluetoothless. I'm therefore now after another kit that is configured to plug straight into my RCD. Can anyone help me with this?
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I bought from this person on eBay worked for me http://myworld.ebay.co.uk/vworiginal2010/&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2754 although he doesn't look like he selling the modules I bought anymore. A 7 series module which does voice without an Rns.
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I bought this a couple of weeks ago: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VW-BLUETOOTH-KIT-SEAT-SKODA-MFD3-RNS-510-RNS-310-RCD-510-RNS-315-5K0-035-730-D-/280838820496?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item41634c5290
I had no real issues apart from I still have some VCDS errors coming up. But everything works fine, including the mic. The way the mic is connected with this system is via an extra feed on the adaptor loom direct back to the BT unit, already catered for so no pin isssues etc. The whole thing was plug 'n' paly to the RCD510.
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I bought this a couple of weeks ago: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VW-BLUETOOTH-KIT-SEAT-SKODA-MFD3-RNS-510-RNS-310-RCD-510-RNS-315-5K0-035-730-D-/280838820496?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item41634c5290
I had no real issues apart from I still have some VCDS errors coming up. But everything works fine, including the mic. The way the mic is connected with this system is via an extra feed on the adaptor loom direct back to the BT unit, already catered for so no pin isssues etc. The whole thing was plug 'n' paly to the RCD510.
That's good news, I bought the exact same kit yesterday.
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was just looking at that kit too. Let me know how you get on as i may get one too.
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Will do. I rang them before hand and he assured me that he had plugged one straight into a RCD510 that day, coded it and it worked just as the factory one.
Mine has been marked as dispatched, but I'm away this weekend, so will not get to fit it until early next week.
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Edit my last post, it came this morning, and I was so excited, I fitted it straight away.
This kit is bang on, very good quaility and works first time. It is also good as they have fitted different plugs so that you can choose where you plug the mic into depending on whether you have an RCD or RNS.
I had already coded my car for phone prep, so the job took well less than 1 hour. Even with coding, you are only looking at an hours work.
Right, I need to get back to work now and earn some money.
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Thanks for that. Starting to think i may order one this week now. :smiley:
Does the kit fit under the seat as OEM (which i want) or tuck below the radio?
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There's loads of room under the radio, behind the climate control panel.
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I Have that spot reserved for something else :smiley: its why i hope the wires would be long enough for under the seat.
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You could do either. There is plenty of wire to reach under the seat.
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Thanks
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Just noticed THIS ONE (http://www.bold-sport.com/store/index.php?route=product/product&path=43_44&product_id=69) on the Bold-Sport web site.
Works out at less than £100 shipped and includes the cable loom.
I know people have ordered stuff from them before without problems.
*edit* Cancel that, it is the older 9W2 unit :sad:
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Are you both still happy with this d kit?
I never did get round to order one :embarassed: but told I.can have it for my birthday if its any good.
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Mine has been faultless. Never fails to connect and I'm told by the person I'm talking to, it sounds as clear as if I'm usinging the handset.
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Hey guys, I'm looking to retrofit bluetooth to my new Scirocco. Anyone got any advice for me and anyone in Scotland that can help me out?
Cheers
Barry
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Right, I've bought the kit (5k0 035 730 E)! Anyone have any info how I can go about using the existing mic my RNS 510 already has connected to it?
Thanks
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The existing mic will be part of the wiring loom that goes up to the roof console. You'll never find the other end of the wire to plug it into your new patch loom that came with your bluetooth kit. For the sake of an extra 1/2 an hour to fit the new mic, you may as well do that.