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Model specific boards => Golf mk4 => Topic started by: navmk4gti on 25 February 2012, 01:53
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Been doing some reading up as im getting a wobble when i brake sharply.. How do i check the discs are warped? The discs are only year old but thought check them too.. Will be changing tracking rods and pads next week.. Had look at pads they dont actualy look that bad :undecided:
Also at high speed 90mph plus ( private road ofcourse :evil:) the steering shakes quite bad .. Iv had wheelS balanced and even got new tyres all around.. Would a knackered steering rack cause this or a warp disc :undecided:
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Play in steering rack or a warped disc both give the symptoms you describe, take your disc off and have it checked. Majority of cars I service, it's those using eBay grooved or drilled discs that warp.
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Would this also be the same as an advisory on your MOT for 'brake imbalance' ? I got this advisory a month or so ago and they mechanic said the brakes probably just need a good clean out...
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A good way of checking the brakes is to get a magnetic DTI and put on te wing and put the tip on the disc and the. Turn it and look out for the differential in measurement.
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A good way of checking the brakes is to get a magnetic DTI and put on te wing and put the tip on the disc and the. Turn it and look out for the differential in measurement.
+1. That's if you have one tho.
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A good way of checking the brakes is to get a magnetic DTI and put on te wing and put the tip on the disc and the. Turn it and look out for the differential in measurement.
+1. That's if you have one tho.
+2 thats if you have a dti or even know what one is.have them at work not cheap to buy a decent one though.also if you do this put somethnig under the magnet as might scrath paint taking it off.
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wobble at high speed sounds like track rod end
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A good way of checking the brakes is to get a magnetic DTI and put on te wing and put the tip on the disc and the. Turn it and look out for the differential in measurement.
+1. That's if you have one tho.
+2 thats if you have a dti or even know what one is.have them at work not cheap to buy a decent one though.also if you do this put somethnig under the magnet as might scrath paint taking it off.
Yeah forgot to mention that haha I would never do it and wouldn't reccomeded it either :laugh:
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Whats a dti thingy bob thing :lipsrsealed: :grin:
Yh im goin to change track rod end as one them is completly covered in rust and
Will change pads as been over a year since changed them.. Hopefuly that will sort it dont wana replace discs again
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Whats a dti thingy bob thing :lipsrsealed: :grin:
Yh im goin to change track rod end as one them is completly covered in rust and
Will change pads as been over a year since changed them.. Hopefuly that will sort it dont wana replace discs again
DTI stands for "dial test Indictator" it is basically a dial on a rod with a magnetic base and it has a pointer that can move in and out and as it does the dial reads how far it has moved normally in thousandths of a inch and to .01mm etc
So you put it on your wing and put the pointer on your disc and rotate the outside of the dial so the poi ter is pointing to 0 and then spin your disc and watch move any movement on the dial.
They also used for measure the concentric it's of shafts in motors, turbos etc
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Whats a dti thingy bob thing :lipsrsealed: :grin:
Yh im goin to change track rod end as one them is completly covered in rust and
Will change pads as been over a year since changed them.. Hopefuly that will sort it dont wana replace discs again
DTI stands for "dial test Indictator" it is basically a dial on a rod with a magnetic base and it has a pointer that can move in and out and as it does the dial reads how far it has moved normally in thousandths of a inch and to .01mm etc
So you put it on your wing and put the pointer on your disc and rotate the outside of the dial so the poi ter is pointing to 0 and then spin your disc and watch move any movement on the dial.
They also used for measure the concentric it's of shafts in motors, turbos etc
:smiley:
+1 you in enginering by any chance mate?
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Thats some techy stuff.. Wb just spining the disc and puting hand on it and feel if there uneven groove :grin:
had quick feel discs today they arent that worn in at all so think they all
Good.
any idea hw much dealer charge brake pads all places near me give crappy jap copys which dont last at all :undecided:
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Whats a dti thingy bob thing :lipsrsealed: :grin:
Yh im goin to change track rod end as one them is completly covered in rust and
Will change pads as been over a year since changed them.. Hopefuly that will sort it dont wana replace discs again
DTI stands for "dial test Indictator" it is basically a dial on a rod with a magnetic base and it has a pointer that can move in and out and as it does the dial reads how far it has moved normally in thousandths of a inch and to .01mm etc
So you put it on your wing and put the pointer on your disc and rotate the outside of the dial so the poi ter is pointing to 0 and then spin your disc and watch move any movement on the dial.
They also used for measure the concentric it's of shafts in motors, turbos etc
:smiley:
+1 you in enginering by any chance mate?
Yeah mate only 18 tho just comin to the end of my apprenticeship :smiley:
Thats some techy stuff.. Wb just spining the disc and puting hand on it and feel if there uneven groove :grin:
had quick feel discs today they arent that worn in at all so think they all
Good.
any idea hw much dealer charge brake pads all places near me give crappy jap copys which dont last at all :undecided:
You can't normally feel it as the "weave" could occurs over half a turn o the disc so unless you hole the Wing incredibly tight and have solid finger you won't be able to feel it :laugh:
Dunno about dealer but have a look on places such as awesome, larkspeed and venom for performance pads dunno about own, tps maybe?
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awesome are getting close to being as crazy as stealers now .. will give tps a ring on monday then.. the front are 256mm and rear are 212mm is that right on a AGU? :smiley:
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awesome are getting close to being as crazy as stealers now .. will give tps a ring on monday then.. the front are 256mm and rear are 212mm is that right on a AGU? :smiley:
Ok mate, yeah bits like that don't tend to be cheap from then but they are good or bits like ricirc valve etc
You mean disc size?
Are they not 288 front and 232 on the rear?
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sorry my bad it is 288 front 256 rear :grin:
ill try sourcing some mintex never tried them before :smiley:
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sorry my bad it is 288 front 256 rear :grin:
ill try sourcing some mintex never tried them before :smiley:
:grin: ok mate you got the rear 256 upgrade I'm guessin then.
I heard Mintex are ok and normally quite cheap never tries them myself tho.
Ok mate good luck with the search :cool:
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sorry my bad it is 288 front 256 rear :grin:
ill try sourcing some mintex never tried them before :smiley:
:grin: ok mate you got the rear 256 upgrade I'm guessin then.
I heard Mintex are ok and normally quite cheap never tries them myself tho.
Ok mate good luck with the search :cool:
no not got upgrade... there 232 actualy just checked on some brakes site :laugh: got there in the end :grin:
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sorry my bad it is 288 front 256 rear :grin:
ill try sourcing some mintex never tried them before :smiley:
:grin: ok mate you got the rear 256 upgrade I'm guessin then.
I heard Mintex are ok and normally quite cheap never tries them myself tho.
Ok mate good luck with the search :cool:
no not got upgrade... there 232 actualy just checked on some brakes site :laugh: got there in the end :grin:
Haha thought so :laugh:
Can't wait to get my 288's on the rear .....looks a bit daft with 340's on the front and 232's on the back haha :grin:
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if my discs are warped i will just for upgrade then 312's and 256 rears :evil:.. found few brake pads will post links when get home at work at the mo :lipsrsealed: :grin:
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if my discs are warped i will just for upgrade then 312's and 256 rears :evil:.. found few brake pads will post links when get home at work at the mo :lipsrsealed: :grin:
Alright mate nice, Mintex?
You should upgrade to some of these......
(http://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa433/golfyste/47102fea.jpg)
They work pretty well :laugh:
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those brembos mate??
yh i found some mintex, brembo pads on the bay similiar price.. done know they are genuine tho :undecided:
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Well at least that makes two of us that have brake setups that don't warp :cool:
(http://i1087.photobucket.com/albums/j471/6rockmonkey9/c93993ea.jpg)
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Well at least that makes two of us that have brake setups that don't warp :cool:
(http://i1087.photobucket.com/albums/j471/6rockmonkey9/c93993ea.jpg)
:huh: why would your brakes never warp?
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those brembos mate??
yh i found some mintex, brembo pads on the bay similiar price.. done know they are genuine tho :undecided:
NO mate they are hi spec billet 4's
Hmmm for how much?
Well at least that makes two of us that have brake setups that don't warp :cool:
(http://i1087.photobucket.com/albums/j471/6rockmonkey9/c93993ea.jpg)
that's some nice callipers and wheels you got there mate.
They won't warp as warping occurs from them gettin so hot they deform, and it would take some good effort to get 340mm discs that hot haha
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Thanks! They do turn heads when I pull up for petrol, I'm sure you noticed this too :wink: Two piece floating disks are much better at dissipating heat and allow for rapid expansion/contraction of the disk as it's separate from the mounting disk which allows for a change in size without constriction. If you notice the bolts all the way around the inner section of our yellowish disks they are actually two disks. This means you can use a different alloy on the friction disk from the mounting disk too which helps further with heat dissipation.
It's pretty cool, after any driving if I'm stationery you can hear crackling noises from the disk where it's contracting.
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they must have cost a bit :smiley: so would vented disc reduce chance of warping i take it as they stay more cool
mintex, brembo
rear pads about £15-18
front pads about £23-27
i doubt the authenticy on the brembos tho :undecided:
i can get full set from local shop for about £20 but they are a bag of sh!t :grin:
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Don't think anyone using two piece disks look forward to replacing the disk, price for replacement friction disk ranges from £250-500 each disk. :shocked:
But fortunately, I don't have to worry about mine for quite a while yet.
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Thanks! They do turn heads when I pull up for petrol, I'm sure you noticed this too :wink: Two piece floating disks are much better at dissipating heat and allow for rapid expansion/contraction of the disk as it's separate from the mounting disk which allows for a change in size without constriction. If you notice the bolts all the way around the inner section of our yellowish disks they are actually two disks. This means you can use a different alloy on the friction disk from the mounting disk too which helps further with heat dissipation.
It's pretty cool, after any driving if I'm stationery you can hear crackling noises from the disk where it's contracting.
+1 :grin: yeah even people who don't like cars like them haha
they must have cost a bit :smiley: so would vented disc reduce chance of warping i take it as they stay more cool
mintex, brembo
rear pads about £15-18
front pads about £23-27
i doubt the authenticy on the brembos tho :undecided:
i can get full set from local shop for about £20 but they are a bag of sh!t :grin:
Yeah not exactly cheap but I think they are necessary for the power I want.
I don't actually know much about break pads but that price for Mintex seems about right but would expect been I ones to be more than that.
Don't think anyone using two piece disks look forward to replacing the disk, price for replacement friction disk ranges from £250-500 each disk. :shocked:
But fortunately, I don't have to worry about mine for quite a while yet.
Yeah they arnt to cheap found some for about £212 but luckily mine have quite a bit of life left will probably last till I sell the car in a year or two.
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Some nice stopping power above i bet :laugh:
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Nice brake set ups there ^^^^ :shocked: :cool:
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Some nice stopping power above i bet :laugh:
It is a lot better then standard haha :laugh:
Nice brake set ups there ^^^^ :shocked: :cool:
Cheers mate can't wait to get the matchin rears on :grin:
I do like mine but I love the look of rockmonkeys' callipers behind those wheels :shocked:
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Some nice stopping power above i bet :laugh:
It is a lot better then standard haha :laugh:
Nice brake set ups there ^^^^ :shocked: :cool:
Cheers mate can't wait to get the matchin rears on :grin:
I do like mine but I love the look of rockmonkeys' callipers behind those wheels :shocked:
look :cool:
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Some nice stopping power above i bet :laugh:
It is a lot better then standard haha :laugh:
Nice brake set ups there ^^^^ :shocked: :cool:
Cheers mate can't wait to get the matchin rears on :grin:
I do like mine but I love the look of rockmonkeys' callipers behind those wheels :shocked:
Both look great :cool:
What size are the rears?
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Some nice stopping power above i bet :laugh:
It is a lot better then standard haha :laugh:
Nice brake set ups there ^^^^ :shocked: :cool:
Cheers mate can't wait to get the matchin rears on :grin:
I do like mine but I love the look of rockmonkeys' callipers behind those wheels :shocked:
Both look great :cool:
What size are the rears?
They're 288's :grin:
Just gotta find the time to clean them up and paint them and then fit then haha :laugh:
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:shocked: thats going to an awsome set up :afro:
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:shocked: thats going to an awsome set up :afro:
Cheers mate, really should have started a build thread a long time ago haha, still got a lot to do after fitting my new turbo and havin a map gonna concentrate on the looks (skirts, valences bumper etc) .......lookin forward to this year :grin:
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what power you running golfyste
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what power you running golfyste
Not much at the mo think about 180, don't think I have a very good map as it only boost to about 10 psi then holds at 8psi but has defiantly been mapped by the previous owner. Lately got the the intercooler on, and just bought a k04-001, got bigger injectors to put on and walbro pump, and a few other bits then off to r tech hoping for about 260ish hP and 270-280 ftlb :grin:
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what power you running golfyste
Not much at the mo think about 180, don't think I have a very good map as it only boost to about 10 psi then holds at 8psi but has defiantly been mapped by the previous owner. Lately got the the intercooler on, and just bought a k04-001, got bigger injectors to put on and walbro pump, and a few other bits then off to r tech hoping for about 260ish hP and 270-280 ftlb :grin:
then them brakes will come in handy when you start pushing the ko4 power :wink:
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what power you running golfyste
Not much at the mo think about 180, don't think I have a very good map as it only boost to about 10 psi then holds at 8psi but has defiantly been mapped by the previous owner. Lately got the the intercooler on, and just bought a k04-001, got bigger injectors to put on and walbro pump, and a few other bits then off to r tech hoping for about 260ish hP and 270-280 ftlb :grin:
then them brakes will come in handy when you start pushing the ko4 power :wink:
Yeah that's the plan, got a rear arb and gettin coilovers next month, just wanna make sure the stopping power/handling is up to scratch.
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Some nice stopping power above i bet :laugh:
It is a lot better then standard haha :laugh:
Nice brake set ups there ^^^^ :shocked: :cool:
Cheers mate can't wait to get the matchin rears on :grin:
I do like mine but I love the look of rockmonkeys' callipers behind those wheels :shocked:
Both look great :cool:
What size are the rears?
They're 288's :grin:
Just gotta find the time to clean them up and paint them and then fit then haha :laugh:
Thanks buddy, I always pick my competition on the track by their brake setups lol too often brakes are under-rated, but I'm sure you've found out before they are a life saver if you misjudged an entry speed to a corner.
288mm rear sounds good, I thought about upgrading the rear on mine as I still have the standard 232mm rear, but I haven't decided what setup to go for yet. I like the looks of the dual caliper rear setups but I still have a large shopping list before I look at the rear brakes. Let me know how the braking balance is after you upgrade your rear setup :wink:
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Some nice stopping power above i bet :laugh:
It is a lot better then standard haha :laugh:
Nice brake set ups there ^^^^ :shocked: :cool:
Cheers mate can't wait to get the matchin rears on :grin:
I do like mine but I love the look of rockmonkeys' callipers behind those wheels :shocked:
Both look great :cool:
What size are the rears?
They're 288's :grin:
Just gotta find the time to clean them up and paint them and then fit then haha :laugh:
Thanks buddy, I always pick my competition on the track by their brake setups lol too often brakes are under-rated, but I'm sure you've found out before they are a life saver if you misjudged an entry speed to a corner.
288mm rear sounds good, I thought about upgrading the rear on mine as I still have the standard 232mm rear, but I haven't decided what setup to go for yet. I like the looks of the dual caliper rear setups but I still have a large shopping list before I look at the rear brakes. Let me know how the braking balance is after you upgrade your rear setup :wink:
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yeah they also come in useful when someone pulls infront of you on the motorway doing 40mph like they did me on sunday.....the day i fitted them, pretty glad i did to be honest :laugh:
dual calliper set up?? any pics?
:laugh: there is always a shoppin list ha
i will just dunno when im gonna have chance to fit them
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Got a link here:
http://www.compbrake.com/index.php/brakes-accessories/rear-brake-kits/vw-golf-mk4-vented-dual-system-330x20mm-2-piece-pr4-4-pot-h-b-caliper-rear-brake-kit.html
It's a bit more expensive than I would like to spend on my rear brake setup but they are 330mm and look nice. I don't remember them being As expensive as it is though :cry:
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Got a link here:
http://www.compbrake.com/index.php/brakes-accessories/rear-brake-kits/vw-golf-mk4-vented-dual-system-330x20mm-2-piece-pr4-4-pot-h-b-caliper-rear-brake-kit.html
It's a bit more expensive than I would like to spend on my rear brake setup but they are 330mm and look nice. I don't remember them being As expensive as it is though :cry:
:shocked: a bit more expensive!?!? :laugh:
They do look pretty nice tho ha :cool: