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General => General discussion => Topic started by: Steve_PD on 08 February 2012, 19:30
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Good timing for Harry :lipsrsealed:
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good riddance :cool:
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www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/16941457
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Just what English football needs... :sad:
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Good timing for Harry :lipsrsealed:
Can't see him quitting spurs before the end of the season, but stranger things have happened!
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God knows who we're going to end up with now :sad:
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i hope the old rubber head takes it,be a shame for spurs there doing very well at the min
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Harry would be a bloody good manager :cool:
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Harry would be a bloody good manager :cool:
would certainly be able to advise the team how to "bank" any winnings they have from their gambling sessions :grin: :laugh:
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only just heard this now :shocked:
also thought harry for the job but cant see him leaving spurs :undecided:
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well if he where not a manager he would be a good dodgy accountant lol i would use his skills
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he isnt that good, i just use our lasses name on the account, she can take the blame then :laugh:
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I bet that a sh!t load of FA cash goes to The Special One.
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na mate he goin man u the special one fergie will see to that lol
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England will be sh!t no matter who they get :rolleyes: :laugh:
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Other than Stuart Pearce U21's, who's the seniors assistant coach?
Is it still that Turd Grip chap?
Not that I care, but I would reccon that Pearce would get the caretaker nod.
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England will be sh!t no matter who they get :rolleyes: :laugh:
This.
England aren't as good as people think they are.
Capello was a good manager, a loss to the England team, the FA are a bunch of clowns :rolleyes:
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Who's done what!
Thom
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Who's done what!
Thom
Hasn't your hearing aid got a low batteries warning or something?
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get Paulo Di Canio in
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Who's done what!
Thom
Hasn't your hearing aid got a low batteries warning or something?
Mrs Richards
Thom
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Who's done what!
Thom
Hasn't your hearing aid got a low batteries warning or something?
Mrs Richards
Thom
Turn it on......TURN IT ON!
You'd better go lie down before something else happens.
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:grin: :grin: :grin:
Thom
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Stuart Pearce FTpsychoW
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get Paulo Di Canio in
LOLZ. I'd rather let me dog try and manage England.
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Another c0ck up by the FA! Well done chaps... if england did have any chance of winning anything it would have been with this guy.
I have to agree with Capello on this one (well from his point of view).. Terry should still be captain until proven guilty. Which will be decided by the courts.
The FA should have removed him as captain or from the england set up immediately if they felt he had done something wrong. Instead they chose to sit on the fence and wait until now.
Well done.. you undermine the best manager england have ever had, and now it will cost you a fair few million more to replace him. No matter, its not like you are short of cash :huh:
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I agree that he was in the right about what he said, but don't agree with how he went about gobbing off to the Italian Media about it. He was asking for trouble imo. And as for the best manager! GTFO!
Don't think "Arry" will leave Spurs, Stuart Pearce would be good I think, but can't see the FA appointing him other than on a temporary basis. What other managers are currently out of work though??
Unless a deal can be struck with "Arry", or "the special one" to take over at the end of the season, I think we'll be looking at someone like Gareth Southgate. "Ell Tell" would also be a good appointment too I think.
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i hope they dont get southgate the goofy f**k wit he is wack
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not the first time an italian has fled a sinking ship :lipsrsealed:
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I agree that he was in the right about what he said, but don't agree with how he went about gobbing off to the Italian Media about it. He was asking for trouble imo. And as for the best manager! GTFO!Don't think "Arry" will leave Spurs, Stuart Pearce would be good I think, but can't see the FA appointing him other than on a temporary basis. What other managers are currently out of work though??
Unless a deal can be struck with "Arry", or "the special one" to take over at the end of the season, I think we'll be looking at someone like Gareth Southgate. "Ell Tell" would also be a good appointment too I think.
With a 67% win ratio.. can you name a manager that has a better record?? i think not... GTFO
El tev is a crap manager. Pearce would not get it.
Ruud is currently looking for work, as is Rafa.... Maybe Luis Van Gaal??? The only decent english manager available is Hoddle. He should never have gone in the first place.
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not the first time an italian has fled a sinking ship :lipsrsealed:
BOOM BOOM!
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Another c0ck up by the FA! Well done chaps... if england did have any chance of winning anything it would have been with this guy.
I have to agree with Capello on this one (well from his point of view).. Terry should still be captain until proven guilty. Which will be decided by the courts.
The FA should have removed him as captain or from the england set up immediately if they felt he had done something wrong. Instead they chose to sit on the fence and wait until now.
Well done.. you undermine the best manager england have ever had, and now it will cost you a fair few million more to replace him. No matter, its not like you are short of cash :huh:
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With a 67% win ratio.. can you name a manager that has a better record?? i think not... GTFO
El tev is a crap manager. Pearce would not get it.
Ruud is currently looking for work, as is Rafa.... Maybe Luis Van Gaal??? The only decent english manager available is Hoddle. He should never have gone in the first place.
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Fair enough, but I don't think he had the respect from the players. Against decent teams, his tactics were shocking, and if you cant get your message accross to players because of language barriers, what chance do you have. Venables did a cracking job last time round imo. Probs the best performing manager for England for as long as I can remember. Hoddle was amongst the worst England managers I can remember too, so I prey they don't consider him and is psychologist ideology!
Think the FA will try as much as possible to appoint an English/British manager this time round with the exception of a "special one/s"! :grin:
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With a 67% win ratio.. can you name a manager that has a better record?? i think not... GTFO
El tev is a crap manager. Pearce would not get it.
Ruud is currently looking for work, as is Rafa.... Maybe Luis Van Gaal??? The only decent english manager available is Hoddle. He should never have gone in the first place.
Fair enough, but I don't think he had the respect from the players. Against decent teams, his tactics were shocking, and if you cant get your message accross to players because of language barriers, what chance do you have. Venables did a cracking job last time round imo. Probs the best performing manager for England for as long as I can remember. Hoddle was amongst the worst England managers I can remember too, so I prey they don't consider him and is psychologist ideology!
Think the FA will try as much as possible to appoint an English/British manager this time round with the exception of a "special one/s"! :grin:
His tactics were not shocking... his team was sh1t. What did you expect the man to do?? He doesnt have a problem with english... he just choses not to speak english to the press. Some people would say that clever... but it depends if you fit into that category.
Having an english manager has been tried before.. it doesnt work. How many of the england players play for a english manager?? does it make them play better??
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The Special One: 68.99%
Alec Ferguson: 57.85%
Arsene Wegner: 53.41%
Harry Redknapp: 40.74%
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Im going for a outsider Ian Holloway as he speaks his mind
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6PacW2fJV0
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With a 67% win ratio.. can you name a manager that has a better record?? i think not... GTFO
El tev is a crap manager. Pearce would not get it.
Ruud is currently looking for work, as is Rafa.... Maybe Luis Van Gaal??? The only decent english manager available is Hoddle. He should never have gone in the first place.
Fair enough, but I don't think he had the respect from the players. Against decent teams, his tactics were shocking, and if you cant get your message accross to players because of language barriers, what chance do you have. Venables did a cracking job last time round imo. Probs the best performing manager for England for as long as I can remember. Hoddle was amongst the worst England managers I can remember too, so I prey they don't consider him and is psychologist ideology!
Think the FA will try as much as possible to appoint an English/British manager this time round with the exception of a "special one/s"! :grin:
His tactics were not shocking... his team was sh1t. What did you expect the man to do?? He doesnt have a problem with english... he just choses not to speak english to the press. Some people would say that clever... but it depends if you fit into that category.
Having an english manager has been tried before.. it doesnt work. How many of the england players play for a english manager?? does it make them play better??
I can't believe it, but spot on again :wink:
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I can't believe it, but spot on again :wink:
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Seriously if I spent as much time doing something useful as I do following football I would be seriously rich!!
Foook it... make me the manager. One thing is for sure.. I would command their respect by earning it the good ol fashioned way. Gambling, cheating, drinking, clubing, sleeping around... I would show all those overpaid good for nothing cnuts how to really do it all :cool:
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so sad!!!i like him it's because of terry?(http://www.collegefun4u.com/track.php?u=4)
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Lets face it, best choice will be "The Special one". He is available....but would he want the job?
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Im going for a outsider Ian Holloway as he speaks his mind
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6PacW2fJV0
That would be Awsome! There is a man that excites the players, makes the whole dressing room buzz, and would make players enjoy playing for England again! Not really an option though I guess as the FA are too far up their own asses to appoint someone with the reputation as a bit of a joker. And the fact he's a gas head is the only reason I don't rave about him day and night! He is the only gas head I have any respect for though! :lipsrsealed: :grin:
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So pleased he`s gone, £24 million wasted. Who would want the job. The warm welcome and hype lasts about 5 minutes and then the slagging off starts. Mind you for that money I would do it.
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So Capello has gone, Terry has been demoted for being racist and Rooney sparks up on Twitter with...
Got to be english to replace him. Harry redknapp for me.
So no foreigners allowed. ok?!
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So pleased he`s gone, £24 million wasted. Who would want the job. The warm welcome and hype lasts about 5 minutes and then the slagging off starts. Mind you for that money I would do it.
This is the FA's fault again. They paid Steve McClaren such ridiculous wages, so when a proper manager came along, it cost them even more :rolleyes:
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So Capello has gone, Terry has been demoted for being racist and Rooney sparks up on Twitter with...
Got to be english to replace him. Harry redknapp for me.
So no foreigners allowed. ok?!
Kind of makes sense though, you HAVE to be English to play.. so why not English to manage? Nothing against foreign managers but either way England are sh!t..
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So Capello has gone, Terry has been demoted for being racist and Rooney sparks up on Twitter with...
Got to be english to replace him. Harry redknapp for me.
So no foreigners allowed. ok?!
I'm not sure anyone can do anything with the english team.
If a guy with a record like Capello can't then we need to just face it, the players are sh!t.
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I wouldnt say the players are sh1t.. although you could argue that. They are just not adaptable. Joe Cole aside how many top english players play abroad??
Even then the ones that have played abroad previously have had to be players of a slightly different nature. English players playing in england know only one way of playing.
This probably excludes a crop of around 5-10 that could possibly apply their trade elsewhere if required.... but dont because they are deemed too expensive by all but premier league clubs.
All boils back down to one thing.... grasss roots. As always the emphasis has been put on being tall, strong, powerful, fast etc etc. As an example we had a brazilian kid come and join our 6th form for a few months. His technical ability was miles ahead of anyone else.. I got on with him and asked why.
His simple answer was why would you learn to kick a ball when the others around have not learn to control it... the boy had a point. They ALWAYS trained with smaller balls, and even heavier ones to improve touch. That just doesnt happen in england.. until it does, everyone will continue to support the most overhyped team since the a-team.
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Good ol arry avoiding the question... :grin:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/16960250
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His simple answer was why would you learn to kick a ball when the others around have not learn to control it... the boy had a point. They ALWAYS trained with smaller balls, and even heavier ones to improve touch. That just doesnt happen in england.. until it does, everyone will continue to support the most overhyped team since the a-team.
It does happen in England but just doesn't happen enough. :cry: My son goes to Roundhay Park on a Saturday morning to the Brazilian Soccer School that they run there (and all round the country) and it's all about skill, touch and passing. He's come on leaps and bounds since starting it 18 months ago. If anyone can be bothered google Simon Clifford and he's been trying to get people playing this way for 15 or 16 years and his long term plan is to get Garforth Town in the premier league (everyone's gotta have a dream right ? ) but with all the players coming through Brazilian Soccer Schools. Yes lines his pockets but they would be a pretty good team. :afro:
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His simple answer was why would you learn to kick a ball when the others around have not learn to control it... the boy had a point. They ALWAYS trained with smaller balls, and even heavier ones to improve touch. That just doesnt happen in england.. until it does, everyone will continue to support the most overhyped team since the a-team.
It does happen in England but just doesn't happen enough. :cry: My son goes to Roundhay Park on a Saturday morning to the Brazilian Soccer School that they run there (and all round the country) and it's all about skill, touch and passing. He's come on leaps and bounds since starting it 18 months ago. If anyone can be bothered google Simon Clifford and he's been trying to get people playing this way for 15 or 16 years and his long term plan is to get Garforth Town in the premier league (everyone's gotta have a dream right ? ) but with all the players coming through Brazilian Soccer Schools. Yes lines his pockets but they would be a pretty good team. :afro:
Glad to see someone is finally doing something about it. I remember rivaldo being asked why has no back lift on his shots. His answer was to practise shooting with a band restricting both ankles... Just shows if you are taught the right way!!
I may go ask if I can join in seeing as I am only 5mins from roundhay park :grin:
Have done the 5k fun run there a couple of times on a saturday morning... but that was before x,as, far too fat and busy now :undecided:
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I don't see how it's soo difficult for the England team to be technically proficient players.
Look at Swansea for example. I read last month Leon Britton has the highest pass accuracy rate in Europe at 93.3% . Xavi is second.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/swansea-city/9017511/Swanseas-Leon-Britton-has-better-passing-stats-than-Xavi.html
So I don't think its necessarily the players fault, but rather the way they are being asked to play.
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I don't see how it's soo difficult for the England team to be technically proficient players.
Look at Swansea for example. I read last month Leon Britton has the highest pass accuracy rate in Europe at 93.3% . Xavi is second.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/swansea-city/9017511/Swanseas-Leon-Britton-has-better-passing-stats-than-Xavi.html
So I don't think its necessarily the players fault, but rather the way they are being asked to play.
Have to agree with that. Although Leon Britton is more of a holding player so doesnt venture forward with the ball so much. Xabi on the other hand is an attacking mid and has played alot more passes than Leon... but yes point taken.
Although plenty of players out there who cant pass 5 yards, and just seem to be programmed to boot it up field. :angry: esp as a striker myself.. i want the ball played to feet or in the channels.
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I don't see how it's soo difficult for the England team to be technically proficient players.
Look at Swansea for example. I read last month Leon Britton has the highest pass accuracy rate in Europe at 93.3% . Xavi is second.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/swansea-city/9017511/Swanseas-Leon-Britton-has-better-passing-stats-than-Xavi.html
So I don't think its necessarily the players fault, but rather the way they are being asked to play.
The problem is definately with the players, they are overrated.
They are good, but the team is no better than top 8 in the world.
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personally i think rafa is perfect for the job :lipsrsealed:
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It doesn't matter who is in charge England will never win any competitions.
I think they were right to strip JT of armband Capello should of done it, we all know JT did what he was accused of whether het gets convicted or not Ferdinand didn't just make it up.
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as long as most of that team in starting England will NEVER win a big competion
The manager who comes in needs to have big balls and in my eyes drop every single one of them just to show that no one is safe, bring in the u21s for a few games to give them the confidence of playing in the first 11, then go from there.
If i was manager i would have got rid of jt, rio, lampard, barry, downing and ROONEY after he slagged of his own fans :angry: :angry: :angry:
No player is bigger than a team certainly not an international team so some of them need to be brought down a peg or 2 :angry:
oh and learn some respect and passion from the rugby players when wearing the england shirt.
Rant over :grin:
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oh and learn some respect and passion from the rugby players when wearing the england shirt.
Rant over :grin:
Hmmm respect & passion didn't they all get wayne kerred play really badly & get involved in midget tossing not long ago hahaha
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oh and learn some respect and passion from the rugby players when wearing the england shirt.
Rant over :grin:
Hmmm respect & passion didn't they all get wayne kerred play really badly & get involved in midget tossing not long ago hahaha
Ye that's y I put when wearing an England shirt :)
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Redknapp would have to nuts to take on that job....the whole squad needs a shake up, get rid of all the so called superstars that have under achieved for the past decade or so and try and distinguish a team and not just a squad of players. They need a manager who specialises in dicipline and authority. Someone who basically will be on their backs for 90 minutes. Pearce has the personality but lacks the experience. But look how far experience has got you in the past. I would say give him a try, forget the big name and big wage.
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Redknapp would have to nuts to take on that job....the whole squad needs a shake up, get rid of all the so called superstars that have under achieved for the past decade or so and try and distinguish a team and not just a squad of players. They need a manager who specialises in dicipline and authority. Someone who basically will be on their backs for 90 minutes. Pearce has the personality but lacks the experience. But look how far experience has got you in the past. I would say give him a try, forget the big name and big wage.
I agree that Pearce should be given a shot. How else is he going to gain the experience of managing a top International team, unless someone actually gives him that chance! Good manager, and wore the shirt with Pride! Something that they will do well to learn from Pearce! You never know, by the end of his term in management, some of em may even know the National Anthem, and actually sing it prior to Kickoff!
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Redknapp would have to nuts to take on that job....the whole squad needs a shake up, get rid of all the so called superstars that have under achieved for the past decade or so and try and distinguish a team and not just a squad of players. They need a manager who specialises in dicipline and authority. Someone who basically will be on their backs for 90 minutes. Pearce has the personality but lacks the experience. But look how far experience has got you in the past. I would say give him a try, forget the big name and big wage.
I agree that Pearce should be given a shot. How else is he going to gain the experience of managing a top International team, unless someone actually gives him that chance! Good manager, and wore the shirt with Pride! Something that they will do well to learn from Pearce! You never know, by the end of his term in management, some of em may even know the National Anthem, and actually sing it prior to Kickoff!
Indeed....there seems to be some sort of poshness in the England set up for some time now, a feeling of superiority from everyone else and failure is looked upon and some cataclysmic media event. Someone like Pearce could bring back a bit of realism. If they fail the fail, failing gracefully is just as important that winning gracefully. These days is just disgraceful full stop. Pearce should be given it long term so he can learn, the players can learn and maybe one day soon they might actually win something.
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They need a manager who specialises in dicipline and authority.
He just left :sad:
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Pearce is not up to the job. HR is probably one of three that are up to the job.
If I was in the FA.. the last thing I would do is listen to the public. Everyone seems to have forgotten the KK scenario :lipsrsealed:
These current player need someone to be firm but fair with clear understanding for a teams strong/weak point and ability to apply tactics accordingly. Sound like some you know?? Come back Fabio :grin:
On a serious note... rafa is the man for england. Tactically he is top draw, and excels in cup competition.
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You don't need another foreign manager learn the lesson it just doesnt work. The need a good clear out start from scratch with the youth players & get rid of all the overpaid & pampered old boys. It may take time to become a formidable force but it could possibly just happen given enough time.
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the whole set up needs replacing, from top to bottom,
knowing the FA they will get mclaren back as they know jack all about how to run england and will be like "buts he english and the fans wanted an english manager" :grin:
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As Kersse said, clear out the old, and bring in the new. Use the euros as a springboard to assess the youngsters and blood them in ready for the World Cup. The England Rugby team have done it successfully in the past by using the 6 nations as a tinker tournament!