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Title: Mk3, s3 engine, ko4 turbo..321bhp?
Post by: jnufcuk on 07 February 2012, 16:32
seems like a half decent price? the work must have cost a few bob lol

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GOLF-MK3-COLOUR-CONCEPT-20VT-GTI-VR6-16V-G60-321-BHP-HYBRID-K04-TURBO-/250990006282?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item3a702b900a#ht_768wt_1037
Title: Re: Mk3, s3 engine, ko4 turbo..321bhp?
Post by: jonrandom on 07 February 2012, 17:44
Yeah must have cost sh*t loads getting that done, must be pretty rapid tho!
Title: Re: Mk3, s3 engine, ko4 turbo..321bhp?
Post by: luke on 07 February 2012, 17:59
I'm waiting for kells to come in saying his is better  :grin: :kiss:
Title: Re: Mk3, s3 engine, ko4 turbo..321bhp?
Post by: murraymint on 07 February 2012, 18:21
I'm waiting for kells to come in saying his is better  :grin: :kiss:

Lol.


You wouldn't claim to have that under the bonnet and then not put a pic of the engine in the add.
Title: Re: Mk3, s3 engine, ko4 turbo..321bhp?
Post by: tweed on 07 February 2012, 18:32
Hmmm I don't believe it  :undecided:
Title: Re: Mk3, s3 engine, ko4 turbo..321bhp?
Post by: justalex81 on 07 February 2012, 18:34
i call bullsh1t. that car must have been on a dyno at some point so the owner knows exactly what power it's putting out yet still only gives an approximate figure.
Title: Re: Mk3, s3 engine, ko4 turbo..321bhp?
Post by: jonrandom on 07 February 2012, 19:00
I'm waiting for kells to come in saying his is better  :grin: :kiss:

Lol.


You wouldn't claim to have that under the bonnet and then not put a pic of the engine in the add.

Yeah defo that would be the first picture!
Title: Re: Mk3, s3 engine, ko4 turbo..321bhp?
Post by: danny_p on 07 February 2012, 20:30
321 bhp from a KO4.   wonder how much happy gas it was been fed at the time
Title: Re: Mk3, s3 engine, ko4 turbo..321bhp?
Post by: Wayne on 08 February 2012, 00:19
Cannot see that making anywhere near 321bhp.
Title: Re: Mk3, s3 engine, ko4 turbo..321bhp?
Post by: jonrandom on 08 February 2012, 06:11
ibanezdan from ukmkivs had a hybrid k04 on his quattro golf and pretty sure he maxed it out and just got 300bhp
Title: Re: Mk3, s3 engine, ko4 turbo..321bhp?
Post by: SoundillusioN on 08 February 2012, 09:57
Regardless of the claims, It's a lazy ad and I hate that!  :angry:
Title: Re: Mk3, s3 engine, ko4 turbo..321bhp?
Post by: RandomJord on 08 February 2012, 17:35
Bollox, My LCR had a bigger spec than that an still only had 300
Title: Re: Mk3, s3 engine, ko4 turbo..321bhp?
Post by: bob23 on 09 February 2012, 00:39
not in a million years! if that's 321 bhp then my standard 160k fvcked 2.0 8v is pushing out 200 bhp! and if claiming an "about" figure you'd surely say 320 as a nice round number, not 321, or that just me? he has just pulled a number out his ars3!
Title: Re: Mk3, s3 engine, ko4 turbo..321bhp?
Post by: iamawesomezero on 09 February 2012, 01:40
I don't beleive it :grin:(http://www.collegefun4u.com/track.php?u=4)
Title: Re: Mk3, s3 engine, ko4 turbo..321bhp?
Post by: danny_p on 09 February 2012, 21:38
it is possible to get that sort of power out of a KO4 charge engine it just need help.   about 50 or 60 bhp shot of happy gas / nitrus dose the trick  :evil:  without not a hope in hell
Title: Re: Mk3, s3 engine, ko4 turbo..321bhp?
Post by: murraymint on 09 February 2012, 21:40
There's pics of the bay up now, not as clean as some of the 1.8t conversions on here  :lipsrsealed:
Title: Re: Mk3, s3 engine, ko4 turbo..321bhp?
Post by: lemski on 09 February 2012, 21:46
hmmmm. i though if you were selling you would have a clean engine bay so it looks like you've cared for the car.
Title: Re: Mk3, s3 engine, ko4 turbo..321bhp?
Post by: murraymint on 09 February 2012, 21:48
And a dyno print out, would get a lot more interest then! Or just show that it's probs only running 180/200bhp
Title: Re: Mk3, s3 engine, ko4 turbo..321bhp?
Post by: lemski on 09 February 2012, 21:49
which s3 engine is it, cos arnt they 210bhp or 225bhp standard?
Title: Re: Mk3, s3 engine, ko4 turbo..321bhp?
Post by: stow1985 on 10 February 2012, 22:44
I like the wheels tho  :grin:
Title: Re: Mk3, s3 engine, ko4 turbo..321bhp?
Post by: benvictors on 10 February 2012, 23:34
321bhp = dreamer, engine looks shabby, silicone hose sat on top of the charge pipe, nice! Looks sh!t too, wouldn't give the steam off my piss for it  :grin:
Title: Re: Mk3, s3 engine, ko4 turbo..321bhp?
Post by: Wayne on 10 February 2012, 23:44
which s3 engine is it, cos arnt they 210bhp or 225bhp standard?


Yes early ones were 210 then 225bhp.

That engine bay is a mess as well.
Title: Re: Mk3, s3 engine, ko4 turbo..321bhp?
Post by: dom on 10 February 2012, 23:54
321bhp = dreamer, engine looks shabby, silicone hose sat on top of the charge pipe, nice! Looks sh!t too, wouldn't give the steam off my piss for it  :grin:

Agreed the power figure is unrealistic and the engine bay is a mess. The car has potential, just not at £2k+
Title: Re: Mk3, s3 engine, ko4 turbo..321bhp?
Post by: F17BAD on 15 February 2012, 11:24
I'm waiting for kells to come in saying his is better  :grin: :kiss:


This is the one my carbon mapped beast smoked

Side by side battle as I mentioned in my dub ride thread

The car is pretty rough and the conversion is scruffy.. The owner wanted 4.5k for it and it was him that did the conversion not dubsport lol
Title: Re: Mk3, s3 engine, ko4 turbo..321bhp?
Post by: Sam on 16 February 2012, 08:29
I'm waiting for kells to come in saying his is better  :grin: :kiss:


This is the one my carbon mapped beast smoked

Side by side battle as I mentioned in my dub ride thread

The car is pretty rough and the conversion is scruffy.. The owner wanted 4.5k for it and it was him that did the conversion not dubsport lol

Haha, so you have forced him to sell it
Title: Re: Mk3, s3 engine, ko4 turbo..321bhp?
Post by: F17BAD on 16 February 2012, 09:26
He was already selling it as he has a "400 BHP" 20vt mk 2 he just got. I have seen it an that looks tatty too
He also has 2 x S3's one of which is a MTM turbo version 330bhp and he is selling that also (5k) again pretty tatty
He breaks a lot of S3's. Has a sh!t load of parts but wants silly money and everything looks scruffy lol

Title: Re: Mk3, s3 engine, ko4 turbo..321bhp?
Post by: Diamond Hell on 16 February 2012, 10:54
As eny fule kno BHP figures are entirely based on how clean a car is.

While I'm not saying this particular example has 321bhp, assessing a car's power output on whether it is clean and pretty is a particularly facile view.
Title: Re: Mk3, s3 engine, ko4 turbo..321bhp?
Post by: LazyLunatic on 16 February 2012, 11:17
As eny fule kno BHP figures are entirely based on how clean a car is.

While I'm not saying this particular example has 321bhp, assessing a car's power output on whether it is clean and pretty is a particularly facile view.

TRUE DAT! :D That's why most people would first compare my car, in terms of bhp, to that of a lawnmower.

I don't think its that bad lol. Just cause he hasn't painted/cleaned any parts doesn't mean it don't work properly. I dont agree with the power output though; reading the ad, I'd wouldn't say it was over 300bhp.
Title: Re: Mk3, s3 engine, ko4 turbo..321bhp?
Post by: F17BAD on 16 February 2012, 12:36
Any fool knows I never said the cleanliness played a part in its BHP figure but I think it plays a part in how much money someone should command for a car

This car looks like rs been thrown together.. Iv had a very good look around it unlike anyone on here. Infact I'll be seeing the owner on the weekend do I can get more pics if you want LOL

What I do know tho is my car which has less than 300 BHP is a lot quicker than this particular example

It's all about the torque curve and mine is running a superb map

His car has a emerald ECU with he hybrid.. It was not as nice a drive as what mine is either ( yes I drove it)

Testiment to nick and Craig at carbon for the fantastic work they did on mine
Title: Re: Mk3, s3 engine, ko4 turbo..321bhp?
Post by: F17BAD on 16 February 2012, 13:08
Forgot to mention

He has print out confirming the BHP, granted I don't know how accurate the rolling road was that it was tested on..

I dont think it's 320 BHP personally
Title: Re: Mk3, s3 engine, ko4 turbo..321bhp?
Post by: VW BUSH on 16 February 2012, 13:39
I'd want a pretty tidy car for 4.5k, Mk3 20vt or not.
If it looks shabby I would deffo be worried about its reliability/quality :smiley:, whether its justified or not I am a first impressions person when I am buying something for 4k
Title: Re: Mk3, s3 engine, ko4 turbo..321bhp?
Post by: F17BAD on 16 February 2012, 14:20
I agree totally
4k is a lot of cash. I know I have OCD when it comes to engines but this just looks a messy job
You dont have I have a clean engine to at least look tidy

Inside the car was no better, dials loose, boost gauge left dangling etc
Title: Re: Mk3, s3 engine, ko4 turbo..321bhp?
Post by: Diamond Hell on 16 February 2012, 14:55
No excuse for loose gauges if you have a roll of duct tape or some string and a drill.  :grin:
Title: Re: Mk3, s3 engine, ko4 turbo..321bhp?
Post by: stow1985 on 20 February 2012, 20:53
No excuse for loose gauges if you have a roll of duct tape or some string and a drill.  :grin:

 :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: Mk3, s3 engine, ko4 turbo..321bhp?
Post by: scarr89 on 20 February 2012, 21:54
BHP sells car, torque wins races.

What bhp do you think you'd get from the 225BAM engine with a stage map?
Title: Re: Mk3, s3 engine, ko4 turbo..321bhp?
Post by: F17BAD on 20 February 2012, 22:37


What bhp do you think you'd get from the 225BAM engine with a stage map?

245 to 260 ish in genuine figures

280 in ball bag figures