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Title: -Poll- FWD RWD AWD.?
Post by: mk3.owner on 03 February 2012, 17:53
Just a general question. Im the AWD type of guy 
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Post by: Luke1981 on 03 February 2012, 17:55
RWD when its not icey! I am a lover of BMW,s   :smiley:
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Post by: mcgee9t2 on 03 February 2012, 17:57
RWD for me.

i also like beemers, was a toss up between a mk4 and an old bmw for my first car, the mk4 won due to the fact that its generally a nicer place than an old bmw and i do a good hour or 2 in it a day
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Post by: scarr89 on 03 February 2012, 18:08
The handling of AWD drive cars has to be unmatchable. Loooovee the scoobys.
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Post by: Alan16ac on 03 February 2012, 18:40
AWD all day long!
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Post by: RnP on 03 February 2012, 18:46
after owning a string of awd cars, im an AWD fan

RWD for show AWD for go
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Post by: Mitching on 03 February 2012, 18:47
Only ever driven FWD so I have nothing to compare it to.
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Post by: Mr Blue on 03 February 2012, 18:50
RWD and ICE  :cool:
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Post by: Horney on 03 February 2012, 18:53
They all have their pros and cons. Voted RWD though!

Nick
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Post by: scarr89 on 03 February 2012, 19:41
They all have their pros and cons. Voted RWD though!

Nick

Help out a fellow new to car enthusiast, I have only really read about the 'cons' of RWD & FWD, I don't really know of any with AWD... :undecided:
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Post by: Horney on 03 February 2012, 20:02
Cons are weight, drive train power losses and less ability to steer with the throttle. Nothing can touch them in tricky conditions though.

Nick
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Post by: Roverdose on 03 February 2012, 20:25
FWD!!!!

Rear wheel drive is for posers and drug dealers!
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Post by: Diamond Hell on 03 February 2012, 21:32
RWD or FWD if you want a compromise.

4WD if you want something that just works all the time.
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Post by: kittie on 03 February 2012, 21:33
I voted FWD as I've only ever driven FWD cars.

I'd be interested in AWD though as frankly the roads around here are terrible and we get a lot of nasty weather. RWD doesn't hold much interest particularly.

Don't know should be an option!
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Post by: danny_p on 03 February 2012, 22:59
AWD

RWD is fun for titing about sideways   but AWD is faster most of the time and the more intresting the conditions the bigger the advantage
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Post by: Khare on 03 February 2012, 23:06
I voted AWD. I borrowed my uncles 2.7 petrol Bi-turbo Audi allroad a few years ago and even though it weighs as much as a panzer tank and it's a big car it cornered pretty damn well. And AWD launch just throws you back.
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Post by: patc on 03 February 2012, 23:14
RWD for 51 weeks of the year. Not for the week of snow/ice. 
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Post by: salsheikh on 04 February 2012, 17:01
RWD for driftking skillz init blud  :grin:
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Post by: The Mighty Elvi on 04 February 2012, 17:03
Well my AWD Mk2 dominated on Forza, so that gets my vote.

 :grin:

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Post by: barrym381 on 04 February 2012, 17:22
it has to be rwd if u like smokin :laugh:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxWuHEeU9bM&feature=related
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Post by: CorradoVR6-Turbo on 04 February 2012, 19:54
well im biased AWD all day long,and its not just for the small amount of snow we get every year but for the wet/damp roads 70% for the rest of the year!
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Post by: tweed on 04 February 2012, 19:54
Rwd
I've mainly had fwd. I do like the fact when your in trouble (sideways) you can pull ya self out. only good thing about it.
Drove a new Nissan GTR on a track day and grip was outstanding, but when it let go it understeered a lot. I thought the same with my mates S2.
I have a BMW now and find that I can get on the power bit ealier coming out of corners. Obviously more grip due to weight transfer. So faster than a fwd and doesn't understeer like a awd, if it does you can correct it.


For the smile factor, that's what driving is about right? Rwd is much better for me.
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Post by: Ess_Three on 04 February 2012, 20:00
There are too many factors to simply state one or the other.

A good FWD chassis is better than a crap RWD one.
A good AWD chassis is great...but a bad one awful.
RWD chassis can still understeer.

I guess it depends what you use the car for, where you live, and how often you want to drive it...as well as the car itself.
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Post by: tweed on 04 February 2012, 20:12
I must state the best car I have drove, was the Nissan GTR!

But I haven't drove a fwd or rwd car in the same class.

Well they don't make fwd cars like that. They can't handle it. To compare a rwd car to the Nissan, I would need to drive a 911 gt3 lol and I think I would enjoy that a lot more whether or not it was faster.
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Post by: Diamond Hell on 04 February 2012, 20:59
Drove a new Nissan GTR on a track day and grip was outstanding, but when it let go it understeered a lot. I thought the same with my mates S2.

Understeer is the default choice for any OEM chassis.

Understeer is easy to dial out.

Once you've removed it on an AWD chassis then you're there, especially in the wet.

Well they don't make fwd cars like that. They can't handle it.

You obviously never had a lap out in Hurdy's old Golf.  :grin:
Title: Re: -Poll- FWD RWD AWD.?
Post by: Ess_Three on 04 February 2012, 21:07

Understeer is the default choice for any OEM chassis.


Not all...but I hear what you are saying.  :smiley:
Title: Re: -Poll- FWD RWD AWD.?
Post by: tweed on 04 February 2012, 21:26
Drove a new Nissan GTR on a track day and grip was outstanding, but when it let go it understeered a lot. I thought the same with my mates S2.

Understeer is the default choice for any OEM chassis.

Understeer is easy to dial out.

Once you've removed it on an AWD chassis then you're there, especially in the wet.

Well they don't make fwd cars like that. They can't handle it.

You obviously never had a lap out in Hurdy's old Golf.  :grin:


Yeah defiantly! But just going on what I know.
A well setup awd would be faster than any fwd and rwd car, especially on track!


No I haven't. Any videos?  :smiley:
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Post by: Diamond Hell on 04 February 2012, 21:45
No I haven't. Any videos?

http://vimeo.com/11100503
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Post by: Ess_Three on 04 February 2012, 22:21
A well setup awd would be faster than any fwd and rwd car, especially on track!


Not true...that's too big a generalisation.
Why can a RWD Gallardo be faster round a track than a 4wd Gallardo?
Why is a 911 GT3 faster round a track than a 911 Turbo?
Why is a GT3 faster round a track than a R8?

AWD means more weight...and more work for the fronts to do, bar the steering and 50-90% of the braking.
It can be faster...
But it's not a given.

4WD adds traction, not grip.
If the chassis is good enough, and inherently provided enough traction, 4WD is not required.
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Post by: Diamond Hell on 04 February 2012, 22:37
4WD adds traction, not grip.
If the chassis is good enough, and inherently provided enough traction, 4WD is not required.

Until it rains.  Even a little bit.
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Post by: Ess_Three on 04 February 2012, 22:42
4WD adds traction, not grip.
If the chassis is good enough, and inherently provided enough traction, 4WD is not required.

Until it rains.  Even a little bit.

...and that's the trade off.
4WD normally more usable, more of the time.
No arguments there.

for all rain makes 4wd give better traction coming out of corners, it can also add to understeer going in...it's all a balance.
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Post by: Diamond Hell on 04 February 2012, 22:47
awd reliant robin?

You seem to have fallen on your keyboard and now be outputting utter gibberish.  Please revise your posts into English.
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Post by: Ess_Three on 04 February 2012, 22:50

You seem to have fallen on your keyboard and now be outputting utter gibberish.  Please revise your posts into English.

LOL
I thought it was just me who wondered what planet that comment came from.
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Post by: CorradoVR6-Turbo on 05 February 2012, 14:40
I agree on the whats best for track use and awd will be heavier and have a tend to understeer ,but in the real world on the public roads awd has far better road manors and try to put 400+ through fwd or rwd it will be interesting to say the least ...
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Post by: Horney on 05 February 2012, 15:00
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-QbO7RiVFyg
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Post by: scott64 on 05 February 2012, 16:51
AWD all the way mate thats one thing i miss obout my old scoob  :rolleyes:
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Post by: tweed on 05 February 2012, 21:50
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-QbO7RiVFyg

 :grin: that was sh!t lol


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Post by: AlexMozza on 06 February 2012, 08:05
Rear wheel Drive and a good amount of down force is the answer :D
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Post by: VeeDubGTI16v on 06 February 2012, 13:25
How about rwd for ideal conditions, awd for tricky conditions and fwd for being average at all conditions?
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Post by: VeeDubGTI16v on 06 February 2012, 13:31
So do awd and rwd
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Post by: Horney on 06 February 2012, 13:32
So do awd and fwd

And RWD in some circumstances.

Nick
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Post by: VeeDubGTI16v on 06 February 2012, 13:34
Yeah thats what i meant!
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Post by: VeeDubGTI16v on 06 February 2012, 13:36
Ok clarkson