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Model specific boards => Golf mk2 => Topic started by: gizago on 26 January 2012, 18:10
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I keep smashing my sump on speedbumps as the car is silly low, is there a lower profile sump available to fit my 8 valve block?? Suspension isnt adjustable so raising it up a bit isnt an option.
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Fit proper suspension then.
If it's that low, it'll handle like a pig anyway.
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Raise it or slow down and snake over the speed bumps.
Not sure about sumps though, you any good with a welder?
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made a few shallow sumps in the past, they are a twerp to do. makeing the sump shallower is easy but you have to shoretn the pickup, problem is do that and there is bugger all oil in it, so you have to put wings on it then getting at the bolts is fun
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made a few shallow sumps in the past, they are a twerp to do. makeing the sump shallower is easy but you have to shoretn the pickup, problem is do that and there is bugger all oil in it, so you have to put wings on it then getting at the bolts is fun
You got to show me a picture Danny Frankinsump :laugh:
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Dry sump would be an expensive solution.
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Fit proper suspension then.
If it's that low, it'll handle like a pig anyway.
Helpful. Dont bother replying if you have nothing constructive to add. Handles fine thanks. Believe it or not cars used to go round corners before coilover suspension became fashionable.
Raise it or slow down and snake over the speed bumps.
Not sure about sumps though, you any good with a welder?
I snake as much as I can, and I've had plenty of aircooled stuff thats low, so I'm well used to dodging potholes :wink:
I did think about modding one with a flat bottom welded on, but was concerned about losing oil capacity as mentioned above.
made a few shallow sumps in the past, they are a twerp to do. makeing the sump shallower is easy but you have to shoretn the pickup, problem is do that and there is bugger all oil in it, so you have to put wings on it then getting at the bolts is fun
This is what I was thinking.
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Fit proper suspension then.
If it's that low, it'll handle like a pig anyway.
I thought this was very helpful advice.... :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
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Fit proper suspension then.
If it's that low, it'll handle like a pig anyway.
Helpful. Dont bother replying if you have nothing constructive to add. Handles fine thanks. Believe it or not cars used to go round corners before coilover suspension became fashionable.
No, really it will. It IS helpful advice. He's suggesting you remove what is causing your problem.
You car WILL handle better.
Unless you're some sort of a numpty who thinks it's cool because it's so low. You cannot assert your car handles as good as it would if it wasn't as low as it must be to be colliding with speed humps. It simply cannot technically.
:rolleyes:
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Fit proper suspension then.
If it's that low, it'll handle like a pig anyway.
Helpful. Dont bother replying if you have nothing constructive to add. Handles fine thanks. Believe it or not cars used to go round corners before coilover suspension became fashionable.
No, really it will. It IS helpful advice. He's suggesting you remove what is causing your problem.
You car WILL handle better.
Unless you're some sort of a numpty who thinks it's cool because it's so low. You cannot assert your car handles as good as it would if it wasn't as low as it must be to be colliding with speed humps. It simply cannot technically.
:rolleyes:
Frankinsump!!
If you want to do it right you buy air ride that has a sensor when approaching bumps it automatically raises itself esp when it senses you have just eaten at a McD's and the weight is just too much!
Frankinspension!
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Fit the engine upside down
LOL
Don't Schrick make low level sumps
Designer Frankinsump!
I would weld tiny wheels to then sump so they roill instead of scrap
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Its not just your sump, but also your wishbones and subframe will be very low. Coilovers are the only way of fine tuning your height. I'm governed by speed bumps at work, and I miss all of them bar one which I just about scrape on, but as mines dumped on hot tunings when looking underneath everything else is scary low!! Can't go any lower unfortunately.. This year I'm going for some spax rsx's or whatever they are, and though the car won't look as good as it does slammed now it'll handle far better and not be so stupidly low.. I think that was grand advice you were given
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will try find you some piccys of a frankensump was makeing them at work tho so not sure if i would have taken any. got to make a few more at some pont :sad:
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will try find you some piccys of a frankensump was makeing them at work tho so not sure if i would have taken any. got to make a few more at some pont :sad:
Its not that hard to make I reckon only thing that worries me is the aid of cooling and hot spots if the oil capcity has seperate pockets. Schrick have fins and ridges to help with cooling, but thats a cooling issue not ride height.
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made a few shallow sumps in the past, they are a twerp to do. makeing the sump shallower is easy but you have to shoretn the pickup, problem is do that and there is bugger all oil in it, so you have to put wings on it then getting at the bolts is fun
Did you not have major problems with distortion and sealing with these? The suggestion of running side compartments for extra capacity is the same as what Shrick run on their (expensive!) sump pans and is a good idea if you do go this route.
IIRC the earlier (pre-85) K-Jet cars had a shallower sump and oil pickup (they certainly run with a litre less oil in them) but I could well be wrong on the sump depth. Saying that, they did have solid lifters and not hydraulic......
As for everyone elses advice that you should raise your car being unhelpful, well if the answer is so bloody obvious that you cant see it then clearly you need it pointing out :grin:. They do handle like crap when they are that low too, Ive found this on both of the Mk2's I have had......
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if you try and modify one loose it will twist and warp someting silly. the trick is to upturn an old block and weld the sump when it's bolted to said block. also planing your welding can help a lot. the cast alloy sumps are quite easy to keep flat but they can be a chunt to weld, the pressed steel ones will try to warp more but the welding is obviously much easyer.
the other option is to raie the enigne a bit easy done with spacers tho oviosly depending on what engine you have bepends how much clerance you can gain
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above is a good option.. getting some blocks made up to raise your engine by say an inch or so.. seen a lot of people running silly low doing this and you can DIY for cheap enough
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Raising the engine would have a negative impact on the handling though?
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My subframe is lower than my sump, so why is yours hitting the ground?
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Raising the engine would have a negative impact on the handling though?
Yup, and so would lowering it to the point where the sump is unavoidably hitting speedhumps..... :grin:
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Raising the engine would have a negative impact on the handling though?
yup but most of the handeling has allready been removed, so what dose it matter