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Title: Sopa and Pipa
Post by: AlexMozza on 19 January 2012, 00:03
What are peoples views on it...?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=NXhIktkK78s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=NXhIktkK78s)
Title: Re: Sopa and Pipa
Post by: Jay on 19 January 2012, 07:01
Silly law being rushed through (or trying to) for all the wrong reasons, mostly to 'protect' the money media houses make. It's like the Digital economy Act over here, though that didn't receive as much attention  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Sopa and Pipa
Post by: VW BUSH on 19 January 2012, 13:42
I can understand the reasons for wanting to protect IP, but do worry what other measures will be sneaked by in disguise....

I think the "free" internet of the 90's and 00's will soon be a thing of the past, but with our new found dependencey on apps, Iphones and Golfgti.co.uk we will pay up or comply without too much of a fuss :grin:
Title: Re: Sopa and Pipa
Post by: Jay on 19 January 2012, 13:51
It doesn't effect us a great deal in the UK, but the DEA (digital economy act) does. There were a bunch of laws in the DEA that would have effected photographers, but they kicked up enough of a fuss that part was removed before the law came into force, yet not much fuss was made about the rest of the law  :undecided:
Title: Re: Sopa and Pipa
Post by: Kerrse on 19 January 2012, 13:59
neither will get through by the look of it

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/14/white-house-sopa-pipa_n_1206347.html?ref=fb&src=sp&comm_ref=false#sb=1649595,b=facebook (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/14/white-house-sopa-pipa_n_1206347.html?ref=fb&src=sp&comm_ref=false#sb=1649595,b=facebook)
Title: Re: Sopa and Pipa
Post by: Jay on 19 January 2012, 14:14
Yeah, just wish people here would have done the same to stop the DEA :sad:

Thankfully the only site to have been blocked is newsbin and only on BT's internet products (other companies using the BT network like Sky, Talk talk etc haven't blocked it).

Sure companies need to protect their IP BUT at what cost?

The music and movie industry say they're loosing money because of digital piracy ... piracy existed on VHS tapes! Just that was harder to stop, but hey it's all digital now and 'easier' to block, though easy to get around said blocks. They are making more money than ever and they just want to make more, though I doubt they would make more anyway, they just think they will.

stopping now before I rant on.
Title: Re: Sopa and Pipa
Post by: Kerrse on 20 January 2012, 11:38
So it begins anyway

http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/wireStory/apnewsbreak-feds-shut-file-sharing-website-15396093 (http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/wireStory/apnewsbreak-feds-shut-file-sharing-website-15396093)
Title: Re: Sopa and Pipa
Post by: Jay on 20 January 2012, 12:16
That's under a different law which takes time and they have to sue them to take it down, it was also a US based company which is why/how they could do that. SOPA is to block websites nation wide outside of the USA's jurisdiction. There are many ways to get around what the US are proposing anyway, it's only going to stop the occasional illegal downloader.
Title: Re: Sopa and Pipa
Post by: Kerrse on 20 January 2012, 12:32
That's under a different law which takes time and they have to sue them to take it down, it was also a US based company which is why/how they could do that. SOPA is to block websites nation wide outside of the USA's jurisdiction. There are many ways to get around what the US are proposing anyway, it's only going to stop the occasional illegal downloader.

I thought it was a Hong Kong based company but had some servers in the US hence why they could shut them down, as i said is just the start of what they have planned
Title: Re: Sopa and Pipa
Post by: Jay on 20 January 2012, 20:32
Well good enough as US based (the whole case, though it was an international effort) having over 500 servers in the US and a bunch of staff there too, as well as consistently repeating the fact they're "protecting American Intellectual property and copyright materials", and being started by the US feds...
Title: Re: Sopa and Pipa
Post by: Kerrse on 24 January 2012, 16:01
Why megaupload you ask? This will probably shed some light on the matter.

http://www.digitalmusicnews.com/permalink/2011/111221airvinyl (http://www.digitalmusicnews.com/permalink/2011/111221airvinyl)

Turns out megaupload was just about to launch a website where the artists get to upload their music for free, sell it while keeping 90% of the profit and even encouraged artists to release their music for free and get paid while doing so.