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Model specific boards => Golf mk6 => Topic started by: mkviken on 18 January 2012, 17:34
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just washed the car the other day and its been in the garage since, until i took it out this morning to wash the underbody. i washed down all the suspension arms, drive shafts, struts, subframe, gearbox and sump before installing the larger bluemotion under tray.
i always thoroughly clean the wheel wells anyway but as i had the car on stands i decided to give them a proper going over.
anyway, while i was on with it i noticed a piece of paint about the size of a 10p piece flake off from the lower bumper inside the rear wheel well.
identical to this
http://www.golfmk6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24272
can anyone with or without CW tell me 1 if they have noticed this or 2 is their wheel wells painted at all?
some seem to think that on CW have this part painted and it will just flake off over time as its basically overspray.
really not impressed with the paint on the mk6. around my numberplate (where the lights are) has been missed by the robot too but I've seen a lot of golfs and they all have thin paint in this area.what a joke. very disappointing for a £27500 car.
I'm going to take it back to the dealers to complain but I'm not letting them lose on my car with a spray gun. I'm going to just touch it in with the chip stick to try and stop it spreading. not impressed
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and this
mine looks identical to the rear bumper/wheel well in this thread.
sh!t quality. :angry:
http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthread.php?4991750-Peeling-Paint...VW-Said-They-Won-t-Fix....Anyone-Else&p=67157629
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I have a similar problem only much worse. Will take some pictures tomorrow.
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Mine is also candy white, and I haven't seen the paint flake like that (yet). They are definitely painted white though inside there on mine.
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Got to agree with you, the paint quality is terrible.
I had the rear bumper re-sprayed until warranty about a year back with exactly the same problem, the paint was that thin around the number plate you could see grey patches in the corners.
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Glad mines battleship grey now :huh:
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Wish i'd gone metallic paint, have you noticed on CW paint the doors and bumper looks a different shade also? :undecided: or is it just me.
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i think most cars are like that now.
if you look at most new ish cars the plastic painted areas always look different to the panels.
when you mention the numbeplate are mine is the same. the 2 top corners of the numberplate recess are barely painted and have a rough feel to them as if they have just been flashed over, not painted properly. some of the panel gaps are a joke too
i had mine booked into the dealers to align my front bumper on the drivers side wing area as its stepped but i decided to do it myself in the spring instead as i don't trust them after last time...
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Same issue, paint flake on the inside of the rear wheel bumper!!!!!
Jim
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I have to say I've been fairly impressed with the paint quality on my candy white. I have 7000 miles up now and not a single stone chip. Not one! Lucky or exceptionally hard paint? I suspect it's luck, but I'm not complaining! The paint looks as fresh as the day I collected it. It never really looks too dirty either. Tar spots are the only bug bear.
My previous cars were dark metallics. Total pain in the arse to keep looking well. I had a metallic black Audi A3 a few years ago that was allergic to bird sh!te! If I didn't wipe it off straight away it ate the lacquer. No such issues on the white.
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Kev,
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Just had a look at mine, the paint is not shiny but its there. From looking at it i can believe its only overspray as its quite ruff to the touch. I was not going to prod it too hard with my luck as it probably will come off.
Do you jet wash at high pressures under there maybe thats whats made it come off as i keep it down to ~70 under there.
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My silver one had this flaking in the bottom corner of the rear bumper. I stuck a bit of heavy duty tape on it to stop it peeling further, I didn't want to risk a dealer making a hash of the paint on a warranty claim.
I've not checked my current car yet, I've not used it since before Christmas and not cleaned it since October!! :shocked:
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Mine is nicely protected there with the rear mud flaps :smiley:
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Kev,
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Just had a look at mine, the paint is not shiny but its there. From looking at it i can believe its only overspray as its quite ruff to the touch. I was not going to prod it too hard with my luck as it probably will come off.
Do you jet wash at high pressures under there maybe thats whats made it come off as i keep it down to ~70 under there.
i never jet was mine. i always clean in the arches with the hose and with a 'dirty' bucket and mit though. just looks like its a common thing that the 'over spray' comes off eventually.
I'm going to try and get some black rubber paint and do the affected area to stop it spreading
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I have this exact same flaking paint, same place and everything on my 2009 A3 in Ibis White.
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Kev,
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Just had a look at mine, the paint is not shiny but its there. From looking at it i can believe its only overspray as its quite ruff to the touch. I was not going to prod it too hard with my luck as it probably will come off.
Do you jet wash at high pressures under there maybe thats whats made it come off as i keep it down to ~70 under there.
i never jet was mine. i always clean in the arches with the hose and with a 'dirty' bucket and mit though. just looks like its a common thing that the 'over spray' comes off eventually.
I'm going to try and get some black rubber paint and do the affected area to stop it spreading
I might do mine later when i have a bit more free time.
Might be worth removing the wheel arch liner and also doing something similar to the wings arch edge as the liner rubs on there if its not inserted correctly. Mk5's at less than 5 year old are rusting through in this area at the top of the arch due to the poor paint coverage and poor arch liner design.
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Never so glad I went for Pearl black :laugh:
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when you mention the numbeplate are mine is the same. the 2 top corners of the numberplate recess are barely painted and have a rough feel to them as if they have just been flashed over, not painted properly. some of the panel gaps are a joke too
Not noticed that but mines a bit warped in that area anyway.
The quality imo is not good, mine has loads of paint and other issues and to think for some stupid reason i was seriously thinking of buying a new UP too. I need my head examined really the more i think of it if i buy another new VW.
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always noticed a slight colour difference between rear quarter and bumper on my RS. (since accident I notice a LARGE colour difference :sick:)
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Kev,
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Just had a look at mine, the paint is not shiny but its there. From looking at it i can believe its only overspray as its quite ruff to the touch. I was not going to prod it too hard with my luck as it probably will come off.
Do you jet wash at high pressures under there maybe thats whats made it come off as i keep it down to ~70 under there.
i never jet was mine. i always clean in the arches with the hose and with a 'dirty' bucket and mit though. just looks like its a common thing that the 'over spray' comes off eventually.
I'm going to try and get some black rubber paint and do the affected area to stop it spreading
I might do mine later when i have a bit more free time.
Might be worth removing the wheel arch liner and also doing something similar to the wings arch edge as the liner rubs on there if its not inserted correctly. Mk5's at less than 5 year old are rusting through in this area at the top of the arch due to the poor paint coverage and poor arch liner design.
could you recommend a good plastic or rubber underseal type paint i could brush on?
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Im not sure if http://www.dinitrol.co.uk/ do anything but ive used a lot of there products in the past on my Riley and i wish i had used them on the mk6 as sadly waxoyl products are not a patch on what they were but its done now :undecided:
I used a rubber underseal on the Riley that sets as solid rubber but it can still flexes its just like a rubber mat!. Its extremely strong but the make and model of it i cannot remember. I will have a look in the lockup at the weekend too see if i still have the tin.
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well the front bumper/wing alignment has been annoying me for ages now and the car is booked in for next week to look into it but i don't trust them so decided to sort it myself
this is what i found when i took the bumper off and is the reason the wing and bumper weren't aligned properly.
what a joke
(http://i1110.photobucket.com/albums/h456/elbowsg450x/c3c144dd.jpg)
when the car was new i had a new headlight fitted as it was scratched during PDI and i had issues with poor workmanship and lack of care
this is obviously the aftermath of their attempt to fix it
I'm taking it in next week to complain as this is total lack of care
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basically the bumper has been forced on and the tabs were forced under the clips and the top one has snapped because of this.
its lucky that the mounting bracket wasn't more damaged as it was so forced in.
i have straightened the lower one and was able to get the clip located but as the top one is broken there is no way i could re use that.
I'm going to take it in next week (also to show them the wheel arch paint flaking) to complain but i don't want them attempting to fix it unless they're replacing the bumper.
does anyone know if there is a glue which could repair the broken tab as i would prefer to sort this myself.
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Thats shocking :shocked:
If you can find a plastic welder in your area it would be much stronger than a glue.
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Aroldite or how ever its spelt may work on that as itsstong that rubber stuff was called rubber coat
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Oh yeah and one of the screws in the wheel arch lining was missing on the same side. Seriously the dealership and mechanic especially who did the job are useless.
Anyone know where I can get a replacement screw? Just using a temporary one for now but would like an original looking one
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The dealer should be able to give you one, Part No. N 909 747 01, 12p Inc Vat
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Nice one thanks for that
I'm going in next week to kick some arses anyway so will get one then
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The way the bumpers mount around the headlamps is a joke IMHO, I've not removed a single one without something pinging or snapping off :undecided:
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well i tried to glue the snapped clip today with some epoxy glue and what a waste of time.
in the end i just took it off completely and had done with it as it was just hanging there.
the clip that i did manage to save (the 2nd one down which was bent) is useless as the hook on the side mount was snapped as it was forced on in the first place.
at least it all slides into the 'track' on the side mount so its fairly secure.
TBH the gap is much better than what it was before as the bumper is no longer being forced away from the wing by the bent clips and hooks.
I'm still going to complain at the garage next week though just out of principle.
I've saved the clips which were damaged so i could plastic weld them eventually maybe.
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an update on this saga...
basically when my car was brand new it was delivered with a damaged headlight so it was renewed under warranty - i insisted i wanted to swap it out myself but they had none of it...
when the 'mechanic' threw my car back together i was left with a misaligned grill, light was fitted crooked and the bumper forced on snapping some of the tabs.
after lots of back and forth to the dealership they wouldn't renew my bumper with a new cars as they only have ED35 in stock so it was either have a new bumper painted or leave it.
i wanted my car left original so would not accept any replacement parts unless painted from the factory.
i decided to get a new bracket at the dealers expense and fit it myself as i didn't want anyone messing with my car again
so today bumper and headlight off, new bracket on and bumper back on and everything realigned. job done
all done with 1 hand as my right hand/arm has a full plaster cast on...
basically the alignment of the front bumper/wing had a 3mm step due to it being forced on and some clips being snapped.
before
(http://i1110.photobucket.com/albums/h456/elbowsg450x/245e86a1.jpg)
(http://i1110.photobucket.com/albums/h456/elbowsg450x/b4221237.jpg)
(http://i1110.photobucket.com/albums/h456/elbowsg450x/c3c144dd.jpg)
during
(http://i1110.photobucket.com/albums/h456/elbowsg450x/IMG_0349_edited-1.jpg)
(http://i1110.photobucket.com/albums/h456/elbowsg450x/47f49735.jpg)
after
(http://i1110.photobucket.com/albums/h456/elbowsg450x/c374d100.jpg)
well pleased with the panel gaps and fitment now despite the very end bumper clip being completely snapped.
moral of the story if you want something done right do it yourself. :grin:
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Well done. :smiley:
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all done with this pot on too so it mustn't be that hard a job :roll eyes:
(http://i1110.photobucket.com/albums/h456/elbowsg450x/de4b46fd.jpg)
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Looks like the pot they give you when you've fractured your scaphoid. I did my right one in about 10 years ago and it was a proper bugger as I even had to have all my food cut up.
Get better soon.
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Great job mkviken, esp with only one able arm at the mo....RESPECT!
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Great job mkviken, esp with only one able arm at the mo....RESPECT!
cheers i even surprise myself sometimes :rolleyes: :grin:
just wish i could drive the fricking thing! :angry:
Looks like the pot they give you when you've fractured your scaphoid. I did my right one in about 10 years ago and it was a proper bugger as I even had to have all my food cut up.
Get better soon.
thanks. this is ligament damage/reconstruction so will take a while but these things happen :sad:
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Good repair...pity about your arm... :smiley:
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Great job mkviken, esp with only one able arm at the mo....RESPECT!
cheers i even surprise myself sometimes :rolleyes: :grin:
just wish i could drive the fricking thing! :angry:
Looks like the pot they give you when you've fractured your scaphoid. I did my right one in about 10 years ago and it was a proper bugger as I even had to have all my food cut up.
Get better soon.
thanks. this is ligament damage/reconstruction so will take a while but these things happen :sad:
At least the weather lately has been poor, it's when it's wall to wall sunshine that makes me wonna drive more...
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Well done Ken, looks like both reconstructions will turn out fine in the end :smiley:
The more I hear about dealers...... :angry:
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Has anyone touched up or sorted out the flaking paint from the rear arch/bumper? I had the same on my Ibis White A3 (which I touched up with paint, but it kept flaking) and the same with my GTI now, albeit the GTI looks worse. I must admit I pressure washed it the other week and saw some more come off lol
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I've never used a pressure washer on my GTI and I have to say I've never noticed any flaking paint on it either. I did notice this weekend however that some paint is missing from the front lower corner of the side skirt where stones have been kicked up by the front wheels and worn away the paint. Not too worried about corrosion however as it's only plastic that has been exposed.
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Wish i'd gone metallic paint, have you noticed on CW paint the doors and bumper looks a different shade also? :undecided: or is it just me.
Quite a few new cars seem to have this problem. Just after the Gen 2 Focus RS was released I bumped into quite a few owners who were all having issues with the paint (specifically the Green colour). The paintwork on the metal areas was noticeably different to the paintwork on the plastic sections.
I then encountered the same thing when viewing a Corsa VXR Arctic for a friend. The Vauxhall salesperson wasn't too chuffed when I pointed it out.
And then when another friend eventually plumped for an Astra VXR Arctic, he had the same thing with his front bumper appearing to be a different shade to the painted metal work on his car.
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My new S3 has the added feature of different colour bumpers, i will try a couple of pics...
(http://i751.photobucket.com/albums/xx159/mojo5551/P1000583.jpg)
(http://i751.photobucket.com/albums/xx159/mojo5551/P1000588.jpg)
(http://i751.photobucket.com/albums/xx159/mojo5551/P1000590.jpg[/img
[img]http://i751.photobucket.com/albums/xx159/mojo5551/P1000594.jpg)
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Full album here
http://s751.photobucket.com/albums/xx159/mojo5551/?action=view¤t=P1000586.jpg#!oZZ12QQcurrentZZhttp%3A%2F%2Fs751.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fxx159%2Fmojo5551%2F%3Faction%3Dview%26current%3DP1000594.jpg
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Full album here
http://s751.photobucket.com/albums/xx159/mojo5551/?action=view¤t=P1000586.jpg#!oZZ12QQcurrentZZhttp%3A%2F%2Fs751.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fxx159%2Fmojo5551%2F%3Faction%3Dview%26current%3DP1000594.jpg
Looking thro that mate just makes me wonna see more...
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Cheers, that's all the pics I have at the mo, I have noticed on a lot of new cars the bumpers are a different shade maybe due to the partynt changes that occurred last yearas my 11 plate a4 wasn't like that
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Has anyone touched up or sorted out the flaking paint from the rear arch/bumper? I had the same on my Ibis White A3 (which I touched up with paint, but it kept flaking) and the same with my GTI now, albeit the GTI looks worse. I must admit I pressure washed it the other week and saw some more come off lol
I still haven't rectified this yet and the dealer seems to have forgot about it... I was meant to be letting their Mobile painter lake a look at it. No way it's going in their body shop and bumper removed.
I'm going to try some black stone chip paint when I can be arsed. I've noticed the front does it slightly too but it's not as exposed as rear bumper so not as bad
Ideally I want some brush on stone chip but can't find any. Rattle can means alot of masking and a bigger chance of a fook up.
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Different shade bumpers is very common I think and it's not particular to any one manufacturer. Its down to how the metal and the plastic bumper reflect light differently, so I guess it depends on the light, the colour and the contours of the car. That said, I've never noticed it on my white GTD.
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Different shade bumpers is very common I think and it's not particular to any one manufacturer. Its down to how the metal and the plastic bumper reflect light differently, so I guess it depends on the light, the colour and the contours of the car. That said, I've never noticed it on my white GTD.
What it's really down to is the way that the painting robots are programmed to use the bear minimum amount of paint. The coats are so thin that that are ever so slightly translucent and you can still see the different materials underneath. If the cars were painted be hand without an eye on penny pinching to save a couple of grammes of paint per car, there would be sufficient paint applied for the car to come out the same colour all over.
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Different shade bumpers is very common I think and it's not particular to any one manufacturer. Its down to how the metal and the plastic bumper reflect light differently, so I guess it depends on the light, the colour and the contours of the car. That said, I've never noticed it on my white GTD.
What it's really down to is the way that the painting robots are programmed to use the bear minimum amount of paint. The coats are so thin that that are ever so slightly translucent and you can still see the different materials underneath. If the cars were painted be hand without an eye on penny pinching to save a couple of grammes of paint per car, there would be sufficient paint applied for the car to come out the same colour all over.
That could be partly the reason too :smiley:
I must say though that I'm reasonably impressed with the paint quality on my candy white car. Not a single stone chip on the front of the car or the bonnet (touch wood) in 10,000 miles. On previous cars I always had a few chips within the first few hundred miles!
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I was always under the impression that plastic parts are painted elsewhere and not on the car, hence the slight colour difference as they are painted with different batches of paint, by different robots etc
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they are painted elsewhere on a different production line. i worked in the bumper paint area at nissan for a spell and the plastic/trim paint is a totally separate facility
i think the differing paint finish between plastic/metal is the lack of base coat on plastic trim and the water based paint used by most european marques is very thin.
i must say there is a silver rocco in my street and the bumper to metal difference is horrendous. the silver looks very flat and patchy too.
there is also a new shape silver ibiza though an the quality is way way better