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Model specific boards => Golf mk4 => Topic started by: Scott D on 16 January 2012, 20:50

Title: Rear Gearbox Mounting Bush / Dogbone
Post by: Scott D on 16 January 2012, 20:50
Had the car in today for a few jobs and was advised that the rear gearbox mounting bush has split and collapsed.

I was not expecting that to be an issue as had replaced the dogbone mount only 18 months ago (if that) with a brand new ECS tuning ultimate part using new stretch bolts as well. 

Have only done a maximum of 10,000 miles with the mount on and very rarely thrash the car, surely an uprated bush should last longer?

Ordered an OEM replacement for the mean time and will at some point be changing bushes probably to SuperPro.

Anybody else had an issue specifically with ECS bushes?

Title: Re: Rear Gearbox Mounting Bush / Dogbone
Post by: Wayne on 16 January 2012, 21:37
Should have lasted longer I think, I have the powerflex on in mine, did look at the R32 but around 5 times the price of the poly one so to me it was a no brainer.
Title: Re: Rear Gearbox Mounting Bush / Dogbone
Post by: Rhyso on 16 January 2012, 21:39
I had the R32 dogbone in mine and covered approx 30,000 miles; there was no sign of it giving up
Title: Re: Rear Gearbox Mounting Bush / Dogbone
Post by: Scott D on 16 January 2012, 21:55
How harsh are the powerflex after bedding in?

I would be half tempted to go for the R32 mount, can the bushes be bought separately?
Title: Re: Rear Gearbox Mounting Bush / Dogbone
Post by: Wayne on 16 January 2012, 21:56
How harsh are the powerflex after bedding in?

They are harsh but I think you learn to live with it.
Title: Re: Rear Gearbox Mounting Bush / Dogbone
Post by: David1912 on 16 January 2012, 21:59
I have the same problem is it the round bush that's gone??? I got my car out the garage today to be told that's ripped :@ I want to know if I can replace that bush or is it the full dogbone again :@
Title: Re: Rear Gearbox Mounting Bush / Dogbone
Post by: stevelfc on 16 January 2012, 22:23
on ebay you can buy bushes sepaerate you dont need buy complete unit
Title: Re: Rear Gearbox Mounting Bush / Dogbone
Post by: scarr89 on 16 January 2012, 23:25
Get uprated poly bushes and learn to live with the vibs. Much greater satisfaction when changing gear.  :wink:
Title: Re: Rear Gearbox Mounting Bush / Dogbone
Post by: David1912 on 17 January 2012, 07:17
That's was my reason for taking the standered one off and putting this one on in its place ha ha this is poly bushed well the two big ones are but the small round one is just rubber and its that one that's ripped I phoned the company I get it from and there telling me that its a full new dogbone because the round bush comes with the bar for the short and long bolt and it can't be replaced are they right or wrong to tell me this
Title: Re: Rear Gearbox Mounting Bush / Dogbone
Post by: richw911 on 17 January 2012, 10:57
I had the R32 dogbone in mine and covered approx 30,000 miles; there was no sign of it giving up


+1 had mine on for ages now  :smiley:
Title: Re: Rear Gearbox Mounting Bush / Dogbone
Post by: Scott D on 17 January 2012, 16:40
I have the same problem is it the round bush that's gone??? I got my car out the garage today to be told that's ripped :@ I want to know if I can replace that bush or is it the full dogbone again :@

yeah thats where its gone as well, the other bushes are fine.

Title: Re: Rear Gearbox Mounting Bush / Dogbone
Post by: renorti on 17 January 2012, 23:52
would't bother with polybush, they don't last as long as standard. get v5/v6 one as they are designed for the heavier engine.so last longer.
Title: Re: Rear Gearbox Mounting Bush / Dogbone
Post by: Scott D on 18 January 2012, 18:06
Had the mount swapped over today and to say I noticed a difference would be an understatement. I had over time got used to the harshness and put the lack of grip down to running winter tyres in not so winter conditions.


(http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i150/shoxy84/golf/dogbone/20120118_172246.jpg)

(http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i150/shoxy84/golf/dogbone/20120118_172234.jpg)

(http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i150/shoxy84/golf/dogbone/20120118_172152.jpg)

10,000 miles of use if that and it was fitted with new stretch bolts using correct torque settings.

Worst thing is the cheap ebay mount I've just put on has an identical manufacture stamp as the ECS and cost £20, pretty much paid an extra £50 for two poly-bushes to be pre fitted and black paint. I will defiantly be changing the mount for a genuine R32 mount soon and advice all to be weary of buying overpriced crap.
Title: Re: Rear Gearbox Mounting Bush / Dogbone
Post by: richw911 on 18 January 2012, 18:13
It that really a poly bush  :undecided:

Where did you buy it from out of interest?
Title: Re: Rear Gearbox Mounting Bush / Dogbone
Post by: Scott D on 18 January 2012, 18:28
the other bushes on the mount were poly.

(http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i150/shoxy84/golf/dogbone/20120118_172746.jpg)

bought from a well known company just under two years ago, half tempted to contact them as not happy considering what could of happened.

Title: Re: Rear Gearbox Mounting Bush / Dogbone
Post by: harlemex on 18 January 2012, 19:43
as previously mentioned,the smaller bush isnt poly though, is it.?
Title: Re: Rear Gearbox Mounting Bush / Dogbone
Post by: JimBR on 18 January 2012, 20:29
Genuinely hated my yellow power flex bushes. Yes gear changes feel a bit nicer but crawling in traffic they're a nightmare. You lose all refinement. Once I took them out and put the oem bushes it felt a different car and so much nicer to drive.

I even tried the red ones for a TDI, they weren't as bad but still wouldn't bother with them.
Title: Re: Rear Gearbox Mounting Bush / Dogbone
Post by: Wayne on 18 January 2012, 21:35
as previously mentioned,the smaller bush isnt poly though, is it.?

Nope looks like a standard rubber one  :undecided:
Title: Re: Rear Gearbox Mounting Bush / Dogbone
Post by: David1912 on 19 January 2012, 01:13
Had the mount swapped over today and to say I noticed a difference would be an understatement. I had over time got used to the harshness and put the lack of grip down to running winter tyres in not so winter conditions.


(http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i150/shoxy84/golf/dogbone/20120118_172246.jpg)

(http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i150/shoxy84/golf/dogbone/20120118_172234.jpg)



(http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i150/shoxy84/golf/dogbone/20120118_172152.jpg)

10,000 miles of use if that and it was fitted with new stretch bolts using correct torque settings.

Worst thing is the cheap ebay mount I've just put on has an identical manufacture stamp as the ECS and cost £20, pretty much paid an extra £50 for two poly-bushes to be pre fitted and black paint. I will defiantly be changing the mount for a genuine R32 mount soon and advice all to be weary of buying overpriced crap.

Scott I'm just waiting on my bush coming see when you fitted the new one did you loss the bar that the short and long bolt goes throw or does that fit back on some way
Title: Re: Rear Gearbox Mounting Bush / Dogbone
Post by: km on 19 January 2012, 01:57
can a faulty dogbone mount cause a knock when i pull off?  :undecided:
Title: Re: Rear Gearbox Mounting Bush / Dogbone
Post by: Wayne on 19 January 2012, 09:22
can a faulty dogbone mount cause a knock when i pull off?  :undecided:

If it is worn yes it would, mine knocked slightly before I replaced it.