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General => General discussion => Topic started by: mk3.owner on 28 December 2011, 12:50
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Hi Everyone, Pritty soon im going to be rebuilding my garage.
The one standing at the moment has been set alight by some really cool kid's. :angry:
I'm no professional in demolition but i know how to use the Miss mk1 clio and a really strong rope lol. But this isnt the problem. When im setting the 4 corner post's.. How do I secure them into the ground..?
One of my mate's told me..Cement -> Sharp Sand -> Cement
But then another friend told me 100% Cement.
What would you guy's recommend?
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Post crete! Goes off quick to!
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How much am i looking to pay for that..? Where can i get it from.?
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How much am i looking to pay for that..? Where can i get it from.?
why not just do a concrete base and pre-fab garage, thats what we have and its great..
for post crete... B&Q, WICKES all them style shops
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what do you mean by corner post, what you building it out of ?
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what do you mean by corner post, what you building it out of ?
makes me think of fence posts lol
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thats what i was wondering lol, if your building from blocks then you just lay the blocks on mortar on the foundation
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Explain how you are building it, is it directly attached to the house or separate etc?
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What sort of base do you have?
What size is it going to be?
What size posts are you using?
Is it going to be a flat roof or a pitched roof?
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more info needed
but 100% cement has never been used for anythign usefull. mix it 5-1 and you won't be far wrong
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if your concreting posts into the ground dont use postcrete its going to be way to expensive and its sh!t
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damb stuff sets to fecking fast, it's convient for small jobs/botching but it looses a lot of its strength because of the rapid set.
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Ok, Im making it out of wood (Replacing old one)
I want it to be free standing at the bottom of the garden with the corner post (Wooden) standing about 8ft out of the ground leading into a pitched roof which i want to be about 10 - 10.5ft high and 15ft long. The surface I'm building on is concrete surrounded with grass.
My plan: Set/secure the 4 corner's into the ground
Build 1 side of roof on the ground then with a team effort lift on and screw into place.
Anyone else got any other idea's..? I dont want a pure concrete garage (Reason I chose wood). I also want enough space to park the car and be able to move around in there.
Would picture's help.?
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Buy yourself a dismantled concrete prefab! just lay a decent base, concrete or slabs, and a couple of weekends to build... have a hunt round on your local Gumtree, you'll probably pick something up for next to nothing.
Thom
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so you want the corner posts too hold the weight of the roof then infill the walls after?
how level/thick is the concrete your wanting to build it on?
if it was me and i had a solid level base to work off i would build the four walls in kit form and bolt them to the concrete base and then put a ridge beam in and then put your couples up to that, its only small so would be plenty strong
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so you want the corner posts too hold the weight of the roof then infill the walls after?
how level/thick is the concrete your wanting to build it on?
Yeah that's my plan.. And the concrete is perfectly level (Just slightly dipped on the back corner)
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whats your budget ? i would personally buy prefab because your doing timber. easy as sh!t to put up, done loads now.
comes as a big kit, really simple to put up, looks really good too. these are what we put up, have a look. (dont have to buy from there obviously)
http://www.lillevilla.co.uk/wooden-garages/
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You'll be best off buying some bolt down metposts and some anchor bolts, just bolt them into the concre
If your just going to birdsmouth the trusses to the wall plate and it's 15 foot long you'll need to put supports in the middle of the wall to stop the roof sagging, also remember if it's a pitched roof you'll need to brace it across to stop the roof pushing the walls out in the middle. a 6x2 every meter if your not walking/storing stuff up there, every 40 cm if you are.
alternatively you can make roof trusses on the ground with the bracing already on them and lift them on, just make one and use it as a template so the following ones are the same.
have a look at this see if it helps, www.essortment.com/yourself-build-garage-11994.html (http://www.essortment.com/yourself-build-garage-11994.html) although I never have and never will build a wall on the ground then lift it in place as I personally find it much easier to build in place.
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I don't get why you need corner posts if you are building in timber frame. If you have a level concrete base, rawl bolt a sole plate down to the base, pre-fab your wall panels and fix them into place.
Not quite as big as a garage, but the concept is the same, this is my office that I built about 3 years ago.
(http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t264/dubber36/DSCF2679.jpg)
(http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t264/dubber36/DSCF2678.jpg)
(http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t264/dubber36/DSCF2713.jpg)
(http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t264/dubber36/DSCF2709.jpg)
The picture inside doesn't show the bracing in the roof. They need to be ceiling collars bolted to each rafter no higher than 1/3 of the distance from wall plate to ridge.