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Model specific boards => Golf mk4 => Topic started by: pickles on 19 December 2011, 21:34

Title: coilovers vs suspension kits
Post by: pickles on 19 December 2011, 21:34
sorry if this have been covered , but whats peoples thoughts on suspension kits as opposed to coilovers., im thinking of goin for a suspension kit as i still would like to retain good ride quality, heard the coilovers can be a bit stiff.
would also like to have an adjustable height as well, handy if im ever gna upgrade to larger wheels i suppose.
seems to be a lot of decent priced kits tho for both coilovers and suspension kits.
whats peoples thoughts
Title: Re: coilovers vs suspension kits
Post by: Toby on 19 December 2011, 21:35
hhow low do you want to go? :tongue:
Title: Re: coilovers vs suspension kits
Post by: pickles on 19 December 2011, 21:37
well thats debatable lol, hence tryin to go for an adjustable set up, was thinkin  maybe along the lines of a 50mm front and a 40mm rear drop, cud well change tho, thinkin more on the kit side of things, are coilovers the ideal setup to go for, not wana spend crazy money but i do like quality
Title: Re: coilovers vs suspension kits
Post by: Dave_IOW on 19 December 2011, 21:40
If you want to adjust height, has to be coilovers, unless you want to buy different springs each time..
Title: Re: coilovers vs suspension kits
Post by: pickles on 19 December 2011, 21:41
If you want to adjust height, has to be coilovers, unless you want to buy different springs each time..

got you now, so you dont get adjustable suspension kits, just coilovers, seen these http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VW-Golf-Mk4-4-IIII-98-04-JOM-Coilovers-741001-/290622769469?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item43aa77893d

seems not bad
Title: Re: coilovers vs suspension kits
Post by: richw911 on 19 December 2011, 21:44
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=89176.0
Title: Re: coilovers vs suspension kits
Post by: pickles on 19 December 2011, 21:49
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=89176.0
thanks

seen these by KONI and there adjustable :)  http://www.larkspeed.com/index.pl?a=i&p=261736&part=VW-Golf-Mk4-1-8T-1-9TDI-2-3-V5-Koni-Sport-Adjustable-Suspension-Kits

just worried about the ride being too harsh with coilovers
Title: Re: coilovers vs suspension kits
Post by: dom on 19 December 2011, 21:58
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=89176.0
thanks

seen these by KONI and there adjustable :)  http://www.larkspeed.com/index.pl?a=i&p=261736&part=VW-Golf-Mk4-1-8T-1-9TDI-2-3-V5-Koni-Sport-Adjustable-Suspension-Kits

just worried about the ride being too harsh with coilovers

Those will be damping adjustable but not height adjustable.
Title: Re: coilovers vs suspension kits
Post by: pickles on 19 December 2011, 22:02
hmmmm k, whats peoples thoughts on JOM, well as the sayin goes you get what you pay for, just wondering what every1 else is running on and if there happy
Title: Re: coilovers vs suspension kits
Post by: Dave_IOW on 19 December 2011, 22:29
FK AK street kit, im happy, some others aren't.

Same with JOM..

Id stay away from Hottuning from some of the reviews ive read  :smiley:
Title: Re: coilovers vs suspension kits
Post by: pickles on 19 December 2011, 22:52
FK AK street kit, im happy, some others aren't.

Same with JOM..

Id stay away from Hottuning from some of the reviews ive read  :smiley:

personal opinion i suppose, need to suck it n see lol, is that those cheapos on ebay, JOM do seem a fair price tbh
Title: Re: coilovers vs suspension kits
Post by: mcgee9t2 on 19 December 2011, 22:55
FK AK street kit, im happy, some others aren't.

Same with JOM..

Id stay away from Hottuning from some of the reviews ive read  :smiley:

personal opinion i suppose, need to suck it n see lol, is that those cheapos on ebay, JOM do seem a fair price tbh

i was going to go for hottuning but after some mixed reveiws ive decided to give them a miss, i am going to just go down the fk ak/jom route. and will proberbly end up with fk ak's just because fk is a "bigger" brand compared to JOM
Title: Re: coilovers vs suspension kits
Post by: pickles on 19 December 2011, 23:05
yeah been lookin at the FK Power High Tech , noticed theres 3 different kits on the fk range im assuming all would be top quality, tbh theres that many to choose from  ie Gmax, Apex spax to name a few, think the best option would be maybe to decide on a ride height and buy a suitable kit me thinks
Title: Re: coilovers vs suspension kits
Post by: rockmonkey69 on 19 December 2011, 23:25
If your looking for comfortable coilovers I would suggest something like kw variant 1/2/3 depending on your budget. I am using bilstein b16 pss9 which competes well with the kw variant 3, only the bilstein is supposed to be a more harsh ride, yet when I set it to setting 6 front and back it rides really well on public roads. If your doing more daily driving then I would recommend the kw variant 3 over my b16 pss9
Title: Re: coilovers vs suspension kits
Post by: pickles on 19 December 2011, 23:30
If your looking for comfortable coilovers I would suggest something like kw variant 1/2/3 depending on your budget. I am using bilstein b16 pss9 which competes well with the kw variant 3, only the bilstein is supposed to be a more harsh ride, yet when I set it to setting 6 front and back it rides really well on public roads. If your doing more daily driving then I would recommend the kw variant 3 over my b16 pss9

comfort yes  -£1200 no lol
Title: Re: coilovers vs suspension kits
Post by: Wayne on 19 December 2011, 23:50
Good quality spring / shock kit is the best choice, will give you a 40mm drop.
Title: Re: coilovers vs suspension kits
Post by: pickles on 20 December 2011, 00:18
Good quality spring / shock kit is the best choice, will give you a 40mm drop.

thanks the front looks a bit higher on the standard shocks anyway so id prob lower this more, i know id need to change the ARB etc
Title: Re: coilovers vs suspension kits
Post by: rockmonkey69 on 20 December 2011, 13:08
If your looking for comfortable coilovers I would suggest something like kw variant 1/2/3 depending on your budget. I am using bilstein b16 pss9 which competes well with the kw variant 3, only the bilstein is supposed to be a more harsh ride, yet when I set it to setting 6 front and back it rides really well on public roads. If your doing more daily driving then I would recommend the kw variant 3 over my b16 pss9

comfort yes  -£1200 no lol
Complimented my £200 solid top mounts!
Title: Re: coilovers vs suspension kits
Post by: pickles on 20 December 2011, 13:32
If your looking for comfortable coilovers I would suggest something like kw variant 1/2/3 depending on your budget. I am using bilstein b16 pss9 which competes well with the kw variant 3, only the bilstein is supposed to be a more harsh ride, yet when I set it to setting 6 front and back it rides really well on public roads. If your doing more daily driving then I would recommend the kw variant 3 over my b16 pss9

comfort yes  -£1200 no lol
Complimented my £200 solid top mounts!


 :laugh:

dnt see the point in payin the same price for my suspension than i did for the car tbh lol
Title: Re: coilovers vs suspension kits
Post by: golf-sib on 21 December 2011, 00:30
FK AK if you want nice drop and retain comfort

Jom if you want more stiffness

How do I know, my friend got FK-AK and I got JOM and we fitted them at the same time. Thats my 2-cent, either kits are a hell lot better than the stock setup. It's your decision.
Title: Re: coilovers vs suspension kits
Post by: pickles on 21 December 2011, 21:28
FK AK if you want nice drop and retain comfort

Jom if you want more stiffness

How do I know, my friend got FK-AK and I got JOM and we fitted them at the same time. Thats my 2-cent, either kits are a hell lot better than the stock setup. It's your decision.
thanks m8 exactly what im after, fkak i thinks
Title: Re: coilovers vs suspension kits
Post by: pickles on 21 December 2011, 21:31
fair price as well, dont you get them in red lol
Title: Re: coilovers vs suspension kits
Post by: golfyste on 22 December 2011, 18:06
I would defiantly go coilovers especially for the adjustable height fact as everyone has a different preference but I wouldn't go cheap e.g £200 especially the fk set as my front shocks leaked and failed and they were less then 2 years old.

I'm going for the weitec gt's in the spring bit more expensive but still cheap compared with some.

In my opinion with coilovers you buy cheap you buy twice as either they will fail or there will be a point you dont you don't like e.g the harsh ride
Title: Re: coilovers vs suspension kits
Post by: golf-sib on 22 December 2011, 18:12
Mine are nearly two years and they are fine, plus for the price I can't complain. Its like the t304  replica turbos, for the price even if they last two years its worthwhile IMO, plus the cheap turbo's have been showing some good results.
Title: Re: coilovers vs suspension kits
Post by: golfyste on 22 December 2011, 18:16
Yeah I guess everyone's experiences with them will be different but Im jut sayin in my opinion i don't wanna risk buyin them and them failing again and just don't want someone to buy them and then be disappointed  :smiley:

And yeah I'm on the verge of tryin to decide on getting a eBay k04 001 or a genuine as they are a lot cheaper ha
Title: Re: coilovers vs suspension kits
Post by: golf-sib on 22 December 2011, 20:10
Yeah I guess everyone's experiences with them will be different but Im jut sayin in my opinion i don't wanna risk buyin them and them failing again and just don't want someone to buy them and then be disappointed  :smiley:

And yeah I'm on the verge of tryin to decide on getting a eBay k04 001 or a genuine as they are a lot cheaper ha

Yeah k04-001 of ebay making me think as well as I CBA with uprating internals ontop of the bigger injectors, MAF and pump.

Apparently they require some work though, something about the waste hole may need widening and obviously the actuator needs needs to be adjusting otherwise bye bye life expectancy.
Title: Re: coilovers vs suspension kits
Post by: Dave_IOW on 22 December 2011, 20:12
Injectors £35
MAF £20
Pump £50

All fitted within a couple of hours easy.

DO IT!
Title: Re: coilovers vs suspension kits
Post by: golf-sib on 22 December 2011, 20:13
Injectors £35
MAF £20
Pump £50

All fitted within a couple of hours easy.

DO IT!


Stop persuading me I already spent £200 on golf this month without misses knowing, and you need to hook me up with these deals I really don't know where you are finding this stuff so cheap :P
Title: Re: coilovers vs suspension kits
Post by: Dave_IOW on 22 December 2011, 21:12
Injectors £35
MAF £20
Pump £50

All fitted within a couple of hours easy.

DO IT!


Stop persuading me I already spent £200 on golf this month without misses knowing, and you need to hook me up with these deals I really don't know where you are finding this stuff so cheap :P

Message all the people breaking TT / LCR on ebay about fuel pumps, you will get one in the end, demand £50 posted!

Our own classifieds for breaking VR6's for MAF housings.

Ebay again for injectors, they come up reasonably often. Some Saab yellows on there atm, but apparently they are no good  :sad:  however, they are at a similar price.

I spend nearly 200 a month, every month ha..  ''Sorry luv, no food again this week, sorry''  :grin: