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Title: MOT testing to meet tougher standards
Post by: Luke1981 on 30 November 2011, 17:56
Worth a read

http://www.motoring.co.uk/car-news/mot-testing-to-meet-tougher-standards_36817?

Apologises if this has been posted previously
Title: Re: MOT testing to meet tougher standards
Post by: Mr Blue on 30 November 2011, 17:58
thought those tests should have been standard.

Does not scare me one bit
Title: Re: MOT testing to meet tougher standards
Post by: Kerrse on 30 November 2011, 18:00
Still all depends who MOTs your car
Title: Re: MOT testing to meet tougher standards
Post by: ja55on on 30 November 2011, 18:05
Still all depends who MOTs your car


Not worth the paper it's written on anyone can get a ticket with out even movin the car from the drive way we all know a man ;)
Title: Re: MOT testing to meet tougher standards
Post by: Sam on 30 November 2011, 18:15
The new checks will also ensure the new generation powerful headlights do not dazzle oncoming motorists.

LIKE!
Title: Re: MOT testing to meet tougher standards
Post by: Ant1981 on 30 November 2011, 18:16
The new checks will also ensure the new generation powerful headlights do not dazzle oncoming motorists.

LIKE!

Me too. Sort those HID tossing wayne kerrs out.
Title: Re: MOT testing to meet tougher standards
Post by: Luke1981 on 30 November 2011, 18:19
Still all depends who MOTs your car


Not worth the paper it's written on anyone can get a ticket with out even movin the car from the drive way we all know a man ;)

All good and well until someone gets hurt or dies when the brakes fail or ridiculously bright headlamps dazzle you off the road. I'm sure most members on here would agree  :huh:
Title: Re: MOT testing to meet tougher standards
Post by: Bellend on 30 November 2011, 18:37
Is it true the EML will fail?

Will kill a lot of MK4's and Beetles off.  :grin:
Title: Re: MOT testing to meet tougher standards
Post by: Ant1981 on 30 November 2011, 18:39
Is it true the EML will fail?

Will kill a lot of MK4's and Beetles off.  :grin:

They mean if any warning light isn't working.

I think alot of MK4 owners know pretty well that the EML works.
Title: Re: MOT testing to meet tougher standards
Post by: Kerrse on 30 November 2011, 18:51
Still all depends who MOTs your car


Not worth the paper it's written on anyone can get a ticket with out even movin the car from the drive way we all know a man ;)

All good and well until someone gets hurt or dies when the brakes fail or ridiculously bright headlamps dazzle you off the road. I'm sure most members on here would agree  :huh:

I'm not talking about them passing a car with things like brakes not working, I just mean the odd verbal advisory instead of a fail on the understanding you go and get it done straight away. I'm not sure I have ever seen any headlights that would dazzle me off the road, I tend to keep my eyes on the road rather than stare into bright lights lol
Title: Re: MOT testing to meet tougher standards
Post by: Bellend on 30 November 2011, 18:55
Is it true the EML will fail?

Will kill a lot of MK4's and Beetles off.  :grin:

They mean if any warning light isn't working.

I think alot of MK4 owners know pretty well that the EML works.

So if the EML is lit, is it a fail?
Title: Re: MOT testing to meet tougher standards
Post by: Ant1981 on 30 November 2011, 18:55
Still all depends who MOTs your car


Not worth the paper it's written on anyone can get a ticket with out even movin the car from the drive way we all know a man ;)

All good and well until someone gets hurt or dies when the brakes fail or ridiculously bright headlamps dazzle you off the road. I'm sure most members on here would agree  :huh:

I'm not talking about them passing a car with things like brakes not working, I just mean the odd verbal advisory instead of a fail on the understanding you go and get it done straight away. I'm not sure I have ever seen any headlights that would dazzle me off the road, I tend to keep my eyes on the road rather than stare into bright lights lol

You can look at the road and get dazzled by stupid lights.
Title: Re: MOT testing to meet tougher standards
Post by: Ant1981 on 30 November 2011, 18:56
Is it true the EML will fail?

Will kill a lot of MK4's and Beetles off.  :grin:

They mean if any warning light isn't working.

I think alot of MK4 owners know pretty well that the EML works.

So if the EML is lit, is it a fail?

No, that's not what it means and not necessarily either.

But if it comes on because of the lambda sensor being out of range and the emissions are high, then it will fail for the emissions, not because the light is on.
Title: Re: MOT testing to meet tougher standards
Post by: Steve_PD on 30 November 2011, 19:02
Still all depends who MOTs your car


Not worth the paper it's written on anyone can get a ticket with out even movin the car from the drive way we all know a man ;)

All good and well until someone gets hurt or dies when the brakes fail or ridiculously bright headlamps dazzle you off the road. I'm sure most members on here would agree  :huh:

I'm not talking about them passing a car with things like brakes not working, I just mean the odd verbal advisory instead of a fail on the understanding you go and get it done straight away. I'm not sure I have ever seen any headlights that would dazzle me off the road, I tend to keep my eyes on the road rather than stare into bright lights lol

Firstly you said an MOT without moving the car from the drive, so how would they know?

Second, you can look at the road and get dazzled by stupid lights.

No he never somebody else did :rolleyes:

I get dazzled more by mercs and range rovers but these will pass with no problems
Title: Re: MOT testing to meet tougher standards
Post by: JC on 30 November 2011, 19:04
with such high demand to break into the MOT world at the moment, any garage risking their licence to MOT to issue a dodgy ticket deserves the book throwing at them.  :smiley:

as for the other comments  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: MOT testing to meet tougher standards
Post by: Sam on 30 November 2011, 19:09
with such high demand to break into the MOT world at the moment, any garage risking their licence to MOT to issue a dodgy ticket deserves the book throwing at them.  :smiley:

as for the other comments  :rolleyes:

I think some of us have made very valid points on this thread  :grin:  :lipsrsealed:
Title: Re: MOT testing to meet tougher standards
Post by: Ant1981 on 30 November 2011, 19:12
with such high demand to break into the MOT world at the moment, any garage risking their licence to MOT to issue a dodgy ticket deserves the book throwing at them.  :smiley:

as for the other comments  :rolleyes:

I think some of us have made very valid points on this thread  :grin:  :lipsrsealed:

So do I.

Infact, I think we should strike over HID lights.
Title: Re: MOT testing to meet tougher standards
Post by: Kerrse on 30 November 2011, 19:14
with such high demand to break into the MOT world at the moment, any garage risking their licence to MOT to issue a dodgy ticket deserves the book throwing at them.  :smiley:

as for the other comments  :rolleyes:

I think some of us have made very valid points on this thread  :grin:  :lipsrsealed:

So do I.

Infact, I think we should strike over HID lights.

Even legal ones ?
Title: Re: MOT testing to meet tougher standards
Post by: R32UK on 30 November 2011, 19:16
The new checks will also ensure the new generation powerful headlights do not dazzle oncoming motorists.

LIKE!

All the culprits are over in the mk6 section... too tight to spec xenons, now they all want cheap chinese copies  :grin: :lipsrsealed:
Title: Re: MOT testing to meet tougher standards
Post by: Ant1981 on 30 November 2011, 19:18
with such high demand to break into the MOT world at the moment, any garage risking their licence to MOT to issue a dodgy ticket deserves the book throwing at them.  :smiley:

as for the other comments  :rolleyes:

I think some of us have made very valid points on this thread  :grin:  :lipsrsealed:

So do I.

Infact, I think we should strike over HID lights.

Even legal ones ?

Yes, it's legalised dazzlery!
Title: Re: MOT testing to meet tougher standards
Post by: JC on 30 November 2011, 19:18
The new checks will also ensure the new generation powerful headlights do not dazzle oncoming motorists.

LIKE!

All the culprits are over in the mk6 section... too tight to spec xenons, now they all want cheap chinese copies  :grin: :lipsrsealed:

nice ground bait, hooked heavily loaded  :grin:
Title: Re: MOT testing to meet tougher standards
Post by: Kerrse on 30 November 2011, 19:21
I have specced the Xenons on my Scirocco  :lipsrsealed:
Title: Re: MOT testing to meet tougher standards
Post by: scarr89 on 30 November 2011, 19:32
So MOT's every 2 years instead of one as of Feb 2012?

I think I saw some where that you have to have a cat and that HID (without projectors/levelling/washers) will fail...
Title: Re: MOT testing to meet tougher standards
Post by: Dan_GTi8v on 30 November 2011, 20:09
I thought that lot was in the test already. This shouldn't worry anyone but idiots driving dangerous cars
Title: Re: MOT testing to meet tougher standards
Post by: Kerrse on 30 November 2011, 20:48
So MOT's every 2 years instead of one as of Feb 2012?

I think I saw some where that you have to have a cat and that HID (without projectors/levelling/washers) will fail...

I don't like cats more of a dog man :undecided: :grin:

Not sure about the cat but yes the projectors will need auto levelling & washer jets
Title: Re: MOT testing to meet tougher standards
Post by: houston on 30 November 2011, 21:20
most cars will fail emissions test if they dont have a cat anyway.

and i read on another forum that eml light lit is a fail, ok for early mk4 owners, no eml light :smiley:

oe spec projectors will be fine, self levelling so they dont dazzle, think its aimed at people who fit them in standard headlights, to$$ers
Title: Re: MOT testing to meet tougher standards
Post by: s-l-i-x on 30 November 2011, 23:19
MOT's every 2 years?

So thats more people driving about with worn/bald tyres, no brakes, and shoddy suspension then...


Yeahhhh that makes sense....  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: MOT testing to meet tougher standards
Post by: scarr89 on 01 December 2011, 11:32
most cars will fail emissions test if they dont have a cat anyway.

and i read on another forum that eml light lit is a fail, ok for early mk4 owners, no eml light :smiley:

oe spec projectors will be fine, self levelling so they dont dazzle, think its aimed at people who fit them in standard headlights, to$$ers

I was thinking for a DERV. I am wanting a to get a decat dp but do not want to do it if I will fail an MOT!?
Title: Re: MOT testing to meet tougher standards
Post by: JulesS3 on 01 December 2011, 12:10
Bye bye HIDs  :grin:

No washers or self leveling adjusters = fail
Title: Re: MOT testing to meet tougher standards
Post by: VR6_Wherry on 01 December 2011, 12:18
I was walking down the road when a corsa came past me. Obviously had some dodgy HIDS as i had to stop cuz i couldn't fcuking see!  :grin:

If it happens when i am driving, i know where it parks. So i will leave a lovely note saying they need to 'remove them or i'll smash their headlights!'  :grin: Never realised how bad they were till then!  :shocked:
Title: Re: MOT testing to meet tougher standards
Post by: golf-sib on 01 December 2011, 13:13
Glad about the HID thing, dangerous isn't the word, some mk4's did have ECL light even on earlier models depending on which tacho it got, plus with vagcom you can run a test that lights all lights on and tests the revs and speedo upto 160mph to make sure the cluster is fully working.

Also very useful to take a picture at the needle at160mph when running a test a claim your 1.4 made it there
Title: Re: MOT testing to meet tougher standards
Post by: houston on 01 December 2011, 15:32
most cars will fail emissions test if they dont have a cat anyway.

and i read on another forum that eml light lit is a fail, ok for early mk4 owners, no eml light :smiley:

oe spec projectors will be fine, self levelling so they dont dazzle, think its aimed at people who fit them in standard headlights, to$$ers

I was thinking for a DERV. I am wanting a to get a decat dp but do not want to do it if I will fail an MOT!?

dervs are fine, they dont have cats, they have particle filters, and most of them dont work anyway
Title: Re: MOT testing to meet tougher standards
Post by: Kerrse on 01 December 2011, 15:35
and most of them dont work anyway
get removed for remaps  :grin:
Title: Re: MOT testing to meet tougher standards
Post by: PenguinGTI on 01 December 2011, 17:49
Completely agree with the proposed toughening on HID kits. Where I live it's not so much boy racers who are the problem, but middle aged, estate drivers who opted for the Halfords LED strip and HID kit combo instead of just buying the Audi that they are clearly trying to emulate.

Also agree with the Range Rover/ Merc/ BMW 4x4 comments.  :angry:

Oh and for the record, I just use standard bulbs in my Mk6  :smiley:
Title: Re: MOT testing to meet tougher standards
Post by: Dolly on 01 December 2011, 19:14
I was walking down the road when a corsa came past me. Obviously had some dodgy HIDS as i had to stop cuz i couldn't fcuking see!  :grin:

If it happens when i am driving, i know where it parks. So i will leave a lovely note saying they need to 'remove them or i'll smash their headlights!'  :grin: Never realised how bad they were till then!  :shocked:

just get some black spray paint. masking tape the headlamps off, make a proper job of it, and give it a layer, bring it down to halogen levels, the corsa driver will appreciate smoked headlamps no doubt.