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Title: Can I borrow a rear beam bush 'tool'..... Anyone?
Post by: GunnerCP on 30 November 2011, 13:47
Hi guys,
Anyone local to London got one of these that they could generously lend me for a few quid?

Or,

Anyone else got one that they could post? I will of course pay postage and some extra £££.

I'm in need of one but dont really want to pay £60 for one that'll i'll rarely (if ever) use (again).

Just so were on the same page, one like this....

http://www.toolbox.co.uk/sealey-vs722-rear-bush-14636-108231?utm_source=GoogleBase&utm_medium=GB&utm_campaign=GoogleBase (http://www.toolbox.co.uk/sealey-vs722-rear-bush-14636-108231?utm_source=GoogleBase&utm_medium=GB&utm_campaign=GoogleBase)

Looks like a crap job so would rather have a tool to do it than attempting it without....
Title: Re: Can I borrow a rear beam bush 'tool'..... Anyone?
Post by: Big Tone on 30 November 2011, 15:20
Some m10 stud bar, plate washers and a couple of bits of 1" angle iron (or anything similar to use as packing) is all you need to get them in pal.
Title: Re: Can I borrow a rear beam bush 'tool'..... Anyone?
Post by: jamie16v on 30 November 2011, 18:12
^^ what he said!  :wink:
Title: Re: Can I borrow a rear beam bush 'tool'..... Anyone?
Post by: GunnerCP on 30 November 2011, 22:24
Ordered some superpro bushes... £80 for them. Hope they aren't too harsh but I'm pleased with my superpro front end.

Oh yea, so the main point being I doubt they would really need a tool as such, I'd imagine a g clamp would do as pressing the metal sleeve in is probably the only remotely difficult part if it's anything like the wishbone ones. The poly bush itself is also two pieces so sounds easy enough.
Title: Re: Can I borrow a rear beam bush 'tool'..... Anyone?
Post by: Dave_IOW on 30 November 2011, 22:33
VERY much doubt your rear axle bush is in two parts.

2 part wishbone ones are a doddle.

Single piece rear ones however, are not..

I tried
 G-clamp
 G clamp with bit of 4x4 block to evenly distribute pressure
 Vice
 Vice with above mentioned block

In the end i had to admit defeat and a 10 ton press pushed them straight in.

Mine were however cheap £25 rear bushes.

Just be advised that you may struggle.
Title: Re: Can I borrow a rear beam bush 'tool'..... Anyone?
Post by: Big Tone on 30 November 2011, 22:57
VRS bushes done without taking the rear beam off. :grin:
Title: Re: Can I borrow a rear beam bush 'tool'..... Anyone?
Post by: GunnerCP on 30 November 2011, 23:18
VERY much doubt your rear axle bush is in two parts.

2 part wishbone ones are a doddle.

Single piece rear ones however, are not..

I tried
 G-clamp
 G clamp with bit of 4x4 block to evenly distribute pressure
 Vice
 Vice with above mentioned block

In the end i had to admit defeat and a 10 ton press pushed them straight in.

Mine were however cheap £G25 rear bushes.

Just be advised that you may struggle.

"Replaces OEM Part No: 1J0501541C. . The rear axle of your car is obviously a very important part and needs to be attached to the car using precision engineered parts. SuperPro's 20 years of industry leading experience has allowed them to come up with a solution. This bush kit maintains the alignment of the rear axle under the pressures of hard corning giving you a much improved and sharper chassis. This kit includes 4 bushes, 2 tubes and assembly grease. Also includes SuperPro's unrivalled 3 Year/36,000 Mile warranty. These bushes are also available in KIT5133K - front and rear suspension bush kit and KIT5133K-RG - running gear kit."

4 bushes, 2 tubes.... According to the skods forums easy to install.

What 2 part bushes (superpro as stated I used) are there for the wishbones? All mine were one solid piece which was pressed in then the tube pressed in after....!
Title: Re: Can I borrow a rear beam bush 'tool'..... Anyone?
Post by: jamie16v on 30 November 2011, 23:23
VRS bushes done without taking the rear beam off. :grin:
+1, and with a home made tool... :smug:
Title: Re: Can I borrow a rear beam bush 'tool'..... Anyone?
Post by: GunnerCP on 30 November 2011, 23:26
VRS bushes done without taking the rear beam off. :grin:
+1, and with a home made tool... :smug:

I don't intend to take the rear beam off, I dot really want to bleed brakes etc.... I have to do the 256mm rears and have everything but was really wanting to tackle that next year.... Losing interest!
Title: Re: Can I borrow a rear beam bush 'tool'..... Anyone?
Post by: Dave_IOW on 01 December 2011, 00:43
Well after seeing how the polybushes sit in the rear axle, i didnt think they could be 2 part. will be interesting to see.

I used pro-flex in the front of mine, £25 for complete wishbone kit. 2 part back bushes, 1 part front.

Looking forward to seeing pics  :cool:
Title: Re: Can I borrow a rear beam bush 'tool'..... Anyone?
Post by: GunnerCP on 01 December 2011, 08:37
I'll take some pics when done, probably not for a week or so....
Title: Re: Can I borrow a rear beam bush 'tool'..... Anyone?
Post by: thai-wronghorse on 01 December 2011, 09:05
I made my own tool, sod paying £60 for one il rarely use.
Title: Re: Can I borrow a rear beam bush 'tool'..... Anyone?
Post by: GunnerCP on 01 December 2011, 09:45
anyone know how wide the bushes/rear beam mounting holes are?


Title: Re: Can I borrow a rear beam bush 'tool'..... Anyone?
Post by: Dave_IOW on 01 December 2011, 19:03
Have you not received your bushes yet? At a guess, around 90mm..
Title: Re: Can I borrow a rear beam bush 'tool'..... Anyone?
Post by: GunnerCP on 01 December 2011, 19:50
Nope, awesome said they won't be here until mid week (next week).... They were only ordered yesterday.

If I had them I would have uploaded some pics with reference to the two part bush....

Anyway..... I'll get some pics up and let you know how they are when I'm done.
Title: Re: Can I borrow a rear beam bush 'tool'..... Anyone?
Post by: Dave_IOW on 01 December 2011, 20:41
Ah right, good stuff  :afro:
Title: Re: Can I borrow a rear beam bush 'tool'..... Anyone?
Post by: GunnerCP on 05 December 2011, 12:03
bushes arrived....

(http://i902.photobucket.com/albums/ac228/GunnerCP/b387cea0.jpg)

will be fitting tomorrow hopefully!
Title: Re: Can I borrow a rear beam bush 'tool'..... Anyone?
Post by: GunnerCP on 06 December 2011, 17:43
Wow, what a job! Did the passenger side this afternoon, I'll do the drivers tomorrow morning but what a job it is to get the old ones out.... Not even sure if I've learnt any tips for tomorrow either.

New ones took 2 mins to push in by hand! :)

Title: Re: Can I borrow a rear beam bush 'tool'..... Anyone?
Post by: bricey on 06 December 2011, 19:34
are all rear beam bushes the same across the mk4 range
and where did you them from need some for the 4mo
Title: Re: Can I borrow a rear beam bush 'tool'..... Anyone?
Post by: GunnerCP on 07 December 2011, 15:38
job done.... wasn't toooooo bad overall but not in a rush to do it again. Although I suppose the superpro bushes will pop right out for replacement.

the old vrs bush.... plastic casing made it a b..ch to remove, you couldnt what the inner lip/rim to get it out (like i'd assume you could on a metal one i've seen in diy's) so drilled a lot.... whacked it a lot and it popped out.....
(http://i902.photobucket.com/albums/ac228/GunnerCP/3563a2ea.jpg)

half in
(http://i902.photobucket.com/albums/ac228/GunnerCP/75c30580.jpg)

both sides in
(http://i902.photobucket.com/albums/ac228/GunnerCP/66c8990f.jpg)

crush tube in.... job done!
(http://i902.photobucket.com/albums/ac228/GunnerCP/991ec49d.jpg)


Title: Re: Can I borrow a rear beam bush 'tool'..... Anyone?
Post by: bricey on 07 December 2011, 16:23
ow did you know they needed replacing?
i only ask as my car's making some horrid noises while going over bumps in the road...
Title: Re: Can I borrow a rear beam bush 'tool'..... Anyone?
Post by: GunnerCP on 07 December 2011, 16:28
ow did you know they needed replacing?
i only ask as my car's making some horrid noises while going over bumps in the road...
um... well, my boredom told me.....

on a more serious note, think basically you get a harsh banging over small potholes or whatnot in the road and the rear end can feel 'vague'...
Title: Re: Can I borrow a rear beam bush 'tool'..... Anyone?
Post by: pickles on 14 December 2011, 23:55
http://www.toolbox.co.uk/link/1/VS722_V2_P.PDF

seems to be instructions on how to make your own 1 i think, what other diy devices to ppl use, who said earlier bout some washers and flat plare ??
Title: Re: Can I borrow a rear beam bush 'tool'..... Anyone?
Post by: Chris. on 14 December 2011, 23:57
Easier to attack the rubber with a drill, then cut 2 lines in the bush casing with a hacksaw, then get a socket slightly smaller than the hole in the axle and hit it with a hammer numerous times.
Title: Re: Can I borrow a rear beam bush 'tool'..... Anyone?
Post by: GunnerCP on 15 December 2011, 00:01
But that would have ruined the fun! I got rid of so much stress that day  :laugh:

On a side note, I did drill them but don't have a power supply in my garage and can't really run an extension. My cordless makita is hundreds of miles away so borrowed some cheap thing that had no guts..... It was relatively simple in the end, made a meal of the first one though.
Title: Re: Can I borrow a rear beam bush 'tool'..... Anyone?
Post by: Chris. on 15 December 2011, 00:04
Ha.  I did 4 on the back of a transit yesterday and they were seized solid!  I ran a drill round between rubber and casing,  popped rubber out and did the above post with 2 lines.
Title: Re: Can I borrow a rear beam bush 'tool'..... Anyone?
Post by: pickles on 15 December 2011, 00:05
Some m10 stud bar, plate washers and a couple of bits of 1" angle iron (or anything similar to use as packing) is all you need to get them in pal.

any1 have any pics of this home made tool, sounds very useful