GolfGTIforum.co.uk
General => General discussion => Topic started by: Milby on 25 November 2011, 13:16
-
(http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n527/Milby3183/909859.jpg)
Been driving the above car for last few days as it's my Dad's Citroen C4 Grand Picasso and he's away so thought I would see what it's like :) quite poky for a MPV has 1.6 diesel in it :) drove it too work first day and the engine just stopped and came up on dashboard saying parking brake faulty :S as it has a electric handbrake so I thought OK stopped checked it was working and it was and then restarted and kept going .... was driving home and it juddered to a halt again this time saying anti-pollution failure and didn't let me restart engine for few mins then was working fine again.
Spoke to my Dad about it he said it happens all the time been to garage several times but never been fixed and they don't know what's wrong with it.
Drove next day this time it stopped and it just said STOP on dash so i stopped and the it worked fine :S
I think it just likes to turn off engine then randomly show a fault :L
Stupid french peice of crap :L the only good thing on it is the cruise control ;)
-
Went to look at a VTR version as a replacement for the Sharan, Spec wise and what you can get is good for the money sounds good on paper but :sick:
it really felt like a bunch of blind monkeys built it, its no wonder they're cheap!
-
this one is vtr+ and yeh there's a lot inside it :) but even the dash buttons have worn off to white plastic and it only a few years old :L
-
Yup, we looked at an 08 plate and it was the same, even the top dash storage compartment lids were loose and made of the thinnest possible plastic :sick: I know why the mpg figure is meant to be so high... 'cos it'll spend most of it's time out and about on the back of a flat bed :evil:
-
yeh or just refusing to use it's engine :smiley: the mpg computer is rubbish as well it goes down it huge jumps goes from like 50 to 20 to zero in a few mins then up then back down :grin:
-
Fcuk french cars, all of them, without exception!
-
I used to have a C2 vts.. considering it was less than a year old to my surprise it decided to turn itself off whilst I was driving down a dual carriageway. Good job too as when I opened the bonnet the engine was on fire!
tbh I dont even know why I opened the bonnet.. just seemed like the normal thing to do. I soon closed it which thankfully seemed to put the fire out :lipsrsealed:
-
Is there such a thing?
-
(http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n527/Milby3183/909859.jpg)
Stupid french peice of crap :L the only good thing on it is the cruise control ;)
I've had French, which was trouble free actually.
I should make a thread about German reliability, and loads of people can join in, as the Golfs aren't without problems.
Stupid German peice of crap.
-
To be fair thats just old german cars, or mk4's really :laugh:
-
To be fair thats just old german cars, or mk4's really :laugh:
:grin:
-
To be fair thats just old german cars, or mk4's really :laugh:
That's any German car. I've seen plenty of new BMW's and Mercs on tow trucks, not being delivered either!
-
Unless you live near a garage for merc and bmw i doubt you have seen 'plenty'
I agree though german is not the greatest. Jap is far superior, even then it still goes wrong.
-
Unless you live near a garage for merc and bmw i doubt you have seen 'plenty'
I agree though german is not the greatest. Jap is far superior, even then it still goes wrong.
I drive almost every day, so I've seen plenty, just seem to see them. You can't doubt it, you're not looking through my eyes.
Jap cars go wong!
-
Anyone got the breakdown most models handy it will kill this thread quick :drool:
-
Anyone got the breakdown most models handy it will kill this thread quick :drool:
This
I know the S2000 was the most reliable car ever though while it was on sale :cool:
-
True mt S2000 was just too light at the back and don't like being upside down :lipsrsealed: :cry:
-
Probably not really the most reliable car. More than likely statisitically in percentage, but there were far fewer of them to make a representitave comparison.
-
I had a 307 and it was the worst car I've owned! Only had it 6 months befor I fecked it off, but in that time, the heater just packed in (middle of winter too!), alternator went, and it kept cutting out at idle. Px'd it for a mk5 2.0 TDI. Much better!
-
had a 1997 saxo diesel for 13 years and it was brilliant. No rust, very few problems (dead battery, leaky radiator and had to replace the glow plugs are the only big faults). Loved that little car.
-
http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/cars/article-1686756/Most-reliable-cars-2010.html
-
Unless you live near a garage for merc and bmw i doubt you have seen 'plenty'
I agree though german is not the greatest. Jap is far superior, even then it still goes wrong.
i pass a bentley garage at least twice a day, I have seen PLENTY on the back of recovery trucks :tongue:
most have tape over the number plates :laugh:
-
Rank Make and
Model Reliability
Rating Reliability
Index Average Repair
Cost
1. Toyota Corolla
4.00 £148.62
2. Suzuki Alto
7.00 £96.20
3. Honda HR-V
8.00 £213.62
4. Ford Fiesta
14.00 £111.09
5. Honda Jazz
16.00 £195.10
6. Volvo S40
18.00 £134.80
7. Mazda 2
20.00 £114.58
8. Lexus IS
21.00 £393.80
9. Mitsubishi Colt
21.00 £316.90
10. Peugeot 207
22.00 £331.92
11. Toyota Yaris
22.00 £169.60
12. Mazda MX-5
24.00 £257.08
13. Honda Civic
27.00 £323.90
14. Fiat Panda
28.00 £195.95
15. Nissan Primera
28.00 £255.49
16. Honda CR-V
29.00 £345.65
17. Nissan Micra
31.00 £206.29
18. Ford Puma
31.00 £174.28
19. Mitsubishi Space Star
32.00 £195.30
20. Peugeot 206 CC
32.00 £185.40
21. Ford Fusion
33.00 £183.00
22. Honda Accord
33.00 £377.76
23. Mazda 323
33.00 £186.99
24. Subaru Legacy
33.00 £220.48
25. Volkswagen Polo
35.00 £190.48
26. Suzuki Wagon R
36.00 £306.24
27. Citroen Saxo
36.00 £177.58
28. Renault Clio
36.00 £173.40
29. Toyota Corolla Verso
36.00 £506.95
30. Toyota Celica
36.00 £384.47
31. Volkswagen Lupo
37.00 £137.95
32. Ford Ka
37.00 £160.99
33. Volkswagen Beetle
39.00 £198.25
34. Subaru Forester
41.00 £254.11
35. Toyota Prius
42.00 £223.63
36. Mazda 3
43.00 £655.24
37. Skoda Octavia
43.00 £167.27
38. Citroen Xsara Picasso
43.00 £208.91
39. Citroen Berlingo Multispace
44.00 £170.47
40. Nissan Almera
45.00 £258.31
41. Smart Forfour
48.00 £194.67
42. Skoda Fabia
49.00 £196.17
43. Kia Sorento
49.00 £313.80
44. Suzuki Grand Vitara
50.00 £332.20
45. Daewoo Matiz
50.00 £281.36
46. Peugeot 406
50.00 £207.83
47. Citroen C4
52.00 £224.84
48. Ford Focus
53.00 £241.64
49. Volvo C70
53.00 £226.76
50. Peugeot 107
54.00 £248.46
51. Mercedes-Benz SLK
55.00 £296.73
52. Chrysler 300C
55.00 £253.30
53. Citroen C3
55.00 £212.55
54. Volvo V40
56.00 £252.50
55. Lexus RX
58.00 £459.18
56. Citroen C3 Pluriel
59.00 £304.74
57. Peugeot 206
59.00 £225.55
58. Volkswagen Passat
60.00 £206.67
59. Citroen Xsara
61.00 £194.44
60. Peugeot 306
61.00 £175.78
61. Vauxhall Astra
62.00 £238.76
62. Nissan Terrano
62.00 £233.43
63. Mazda 6
64.00 £405.53
64. Seat Leon
65.00 £238.27
65. Mitsubishi Carisma
65.00 £305.48
66. Toyota Avensis
66.00 £345.78
67. Nissan Almera Tino
66.00 £254.36
68. Vauxhall Meriva
67.00 £289.60
69. Peugeot 307
67.00 £229.27
70. Fiat Punto
67.00 £266.38
71. Seat Ibiza
68.00 £201.97
72. Vauxhall Corsa
69.00 £217.57
73. Vauxhall Zafira
69.00 £256.87
74. Vauxhall Vectra
70.00 £313.30
75. Smart Fortwo
70.00 £286.38
76. Seat Toledo
71.00 £202.57
77. Fiat Multipla
74.00 £173.94
78. BMW 3 Series
74.00 £254.18
79. Mini Cooper
75.00 £332.61
80. Ford Mondeo
77.00 £249.92
81. Volkswagen Golf
82.00 £270.31
82. Smart Roadster
82.00 £253.73
83. Volkswagen Golf Plus
82.00 £326.39
84. Lexus GS
82.00 £352.20
85. Rover 45
83.00 £315.84
86. Citroen C5
83.00 £252.86
87. Rover 25
83.00 £316.39
88. Toyota Rav4
84.00 £367.96
89. Toyota Land Cruiser
84.00 £448.23
90. Volkswagen Bora
88.00 £296.95
91. Nissan X-Trail
89.00 £403.20
92. Chrysler PT Cruiser
90.00 £277.39
93. BMW Z4
91.00 £292.46
94. Citroen C2
91.00 £378.98
95. Volvo XC70
91.00 £302.44
96. Renault Modus
92.00 £190.39
97. Ford Focus C-Max
93.00 £292.38
98. Fiat Ulysse
94.00 £397.14
99. Saab 9-3 Convertible
97.00 £238.54
100. Renault Megane
97.00 £231.14
-
bored jay :grin:
-
You don't know half of it mate. I've got so much free time this time of year, it kills me!
http://www.reliabilityindex.com/top-100 (http://www.reliabilityindex.com/top-100)
-
Friends of mine have had French cars and it's put me off for life.
Pug 306 Diesel sedan - Intercooler issues, idling issues, rear suspension collapsed.
Xantia 2litre with active suspension - clutch cable snapped and they had to take half the car apart to fix it.
Xantia 1.9 Diesel - clutch issues (twice), wheel bearings
Xantia 2.1 diesel - cambelt snapped = mess!
Clio 1.4 Auto - headlights packed up several times, radiator issues, locking problems.
I appreciate that these are a lot older cars (most happened about 8-10 years ago but it was enough to stop most of them buying another French car! I will never knowingly buy a French car :grin:
-
gotta say, my daughter bought a 206 1.4 petrol,
i followed all the good advice from Thom89 and found one which had just had its headgasket replaced, and she has abused the crap out of it without issue, and is flew thru its mot too :cool:
-
You don't know half of it mate. I've got so much free time this time of year, it kills me!
http://www.reliabilityindex.com/top-100 (http://www.reliabilityindex.com/top-100)
Poor bloke... i'd teach you how to sleep
ok that sounds gayeeeeeeeeee
im not i just sleep like a dead log
Haaa six hours MAX a night I get dam wife won't leave me alone :lipsrsealed: nag this nag that....
My family had a D9 which was so cool, then mum had a 2CV which was just sh!t but cool aswell
Old man had a Pug 405 that was suprisingly good, but he said if you see mini cab drivers drive them they are good!
Nissan blue bird gear box mounts go
Ford sierra just cheap for that era.
Pug 405's or was it 407 anyways Brakes failed broken pipe.
Wife had a 2061.1 the only thing failed was a hole in the rad
-
You don't know half of it mate. I've got so much free time this time of year, it kills me!
http://www.reliabilityindex.com/top-100 (http://www.reliabilityindex.com/top-100)
Poor bloke... i'd teach you how to sleep
ok that sounds gayeeeeeeeeee
im not i just sleep like a dead log
Haaa six hours MAX a night I get dam wife won't leave me alone :lipsrsealed: nag this nag that....
My family had a D9 which was so cool, then mum had a 2CV which was just sh!t but cool aswell
Old man had a Pug 405 that was suprisingly good, but he said if you see mini cab drivers drive them they are good!Nissan blue bird gear box mounts go
Ford sierra just cheap for that era.
Pug 405's or was it 407 anyways Brakes failed broken pipe.
Wife had a 2061.1 the only thing failed was a hole in the rad
All the cab drivers round here have Vectras. Does that mean their good then??? :huh:
-
You don't know half of it mate. I've got so much free time this time of year, it kills me!
http://www.reliabilityindex.com/top-100 (http://www.reliabilityindex.com/top-100)
Poor bloke... i'd teach you how to sleep
ok that sounds gayeeeeeeeeee
im not i just sleep like a dead log
Haaa six hours MAX a night I get dam wife won't leave me alone :lipsrsealed: nag this nag that....
My family had a D9 which was so cool, then mum had a 2CV which was just sh!t but cool aswell
Old man had a Pug 405 that was suprisingly good, but he said if you see mini cab drivers drive them they are good!Nissan blue bird gear box mounts go
Ford sierra just cheap for that era.
Pug 405's or was it 407 anyways Brakes failed broken pipe.
Wife had a 2061.1 the only thing failed was a hole in the rad
All the cab drivers round here have Vectras. Does that mean their good then??? :huh:
:lipsrsealed:
-
It was the old mans theory I thought they were all pieces of sh!t except the Jag double he owned! But back then £40 to fill up both tanks was scary!
He owned a Renault 35 and Volvo's aswells. enough said.... :lipsrsealed:
-
you sure your only 37 :grin: :lipsrsealed:
I'm 40 and never owned a Volvo :kiss:
-
you sure your only 37 :grin: :lipsrsealed:
I'm 40 and never owned a Volvo :kiss:
Oi not 37 until Jan!
haaa it was a 240GL the tank! He bought it in 1985 I was 10 :embarassed:
I remember an orion hit him in the arse, the orion was a write off, he had a scratch on his bumper!
-
I had a V40 1.9TD for 5 years from new (1999-2004) :grin: loved it, It loved the outside lane of motorways. Everyone just moved out of my way, It looked like an unmarked police car :wink:. Had extra aerial fitted on the roof for work.
Done 125k miles in it never had a spanner to the engine, apart from oil filter changes.
And It was the one with the renault derv engine fitted :laugh:
-
My Misses is French, she aint broke down once and still goes like the clappers :lipsrsealed:
you sure your only 37 :grin: :lipsrsealed:
I'm 40 and never owned a Volvo :kiss:
Oi not 37 until Jan!
haaa it was a 240GL the tank! He bought it in 1985 I was 10 :embarassed:
I remember an orion hit him in the arse, the orion was a write off, he had a scratch on his bumper!
Ive had a few Volvo's, at 21 i had a 240 GLT it cost me sod all to insure and was faster than my mates Nova's and XR3's :lipsrsealed: The V6 Volvos had a French Engine which was piss poor in comparison to the ford derived 4 cylinder, the 2.3 turbo lump from the 760 drops in to a 240 with ease making a real high speed barge :cool:
Would love Another 240 to play with one day
-
My Misses is French, she aint broke down once and still goes like the clappers :lipsrsealed:
you sure your only 37 :grin: :lipsrsealed:
I'm 40 and never owned a Volvo :kiss:
Oi not 37 until Jan!
haaa it was a 240GL the tank! He bought it in 1985 I was 10 :embarassed:
I remember an orion hit him in the arse, the orion was a write off, he had a scratch on his bumper!
Ive had a few Volvo's, at 21 i had a 240 GLT it cost me sod all to insure and was faster than my mates Nova's and XR3's :lipsrsealed: The V6 Volvos had a French Engine which was piss poor in comparison to the ford derived 4 cylinder, the 2.3 turbo lump from the 760 drops in to a 240 with ease making a real high speed barge :cool:
Would love Another 240 to play with one day
Yeah I hate to say it the 240GL gave me fond memories it was one of the first cars I serviced for the old man, he taught me everything about it " Look at the engine nothing to go wrong and built like a brick shi*t house!"
He spent about 15K on it Pioneer 8 speaker sound system, private plate B8888 fully loaded and in the best colour dark Monza blue equivalant! He wanted the 760-740 afterwards!