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General => General discussion => Topic started by: mcgee9t2 on 23 November 2011, 22:01
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i used to be in the photography sceen a bit a few years ago when it was all about the cannon 400d and nikon d40 ect.
since this section of the forum has been set up ive been wanting to get into it more and more again, so im going to take the plunge and buy a DSLR. however i havent a clue whats good and whats not anymore.
anyone got any suggestions, the cheeper the better ;) been looking at a few on ebay but as i said i havent really been into the photography scene for a good 3 years or so. so not really sure on whats good nower-days and whats not worth the money so any help apreciated.
obviously everythings going to be bought second hand to cut costs down even more.
cheers
(sorry if this has been coverd before, maybe this should be made into a sticky so its easy to find, then someone can create a list of basic cameras, or after a few days when we have a small list ill add it to this post?)
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Errr, 400D?
Nothing wrong with it if you're going to use it to shoot stills.
If you want to start doing video then 550D - 500D is a bit 'cut down' in comparison.
The lenses are the key, really, although it all depends what you want to do with the thing.
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Errr, 400D?
Nothing wrong with it if you're going to use it to shoot stills.
If you want to start doing video then 550D - 500D is a bit 'cut down' in comparison.
The lenses are the key, really, although it all depends what you want to do with the thing.
take it by the errrr ive got the name wrong :grin:
or are you suggesting a 400d?
yeah the cameras mainly going to be used for shooting photoes of cars at shows, maybe some on the track and then general photography, video wise, ill proberbly use it but it doesent have to be anything speshal 99% of the time it will be for photoes. tbh it doesent even need a video function as ide be happy to use my phone
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Errr, 400D?
Nothing wrong with it if you're going to use it to shoot stills.
If you want to start doing video then 550D - 500D is a bit 'cut down' in comparison.
The lenses are the key, really, although it all depends what you want to do with the thing.
take it by the errrr ive got the name wrong :grin:
or are you suggesting a 400d?
yeah the cameras mainly going to be used for shooting photoes of cars at shows, maybe some on the track and then general photography, video wise, ill proberbly use it but it doesent have to be anything speshal 99% of the time it will be for photoes. tbh it doesent even need a video function as ide be happy to use my phone
I think it's been assumed you've already got a 400D
In terms of "value" you're looking at Sony, canon, Nikon
the Sony alpha range offers good value DLRs that are great to get you started but have limitations in the lens and accessory range.
canon are because of the way canon and Nikon price their ranges.
canon and Nikon's camera sit between each other for example the mid range canon will be £600 the mid range Nikon will be £700 with the next canon being £800 and Nikon £900 and so on. This doesn't make Nikon over priced, it's because you're getting a better quality product which is reflected in the price.
Canon offer a wider range of bodies specifically consumer end and amateur.
Canon have been including video for longer so it's more mature in that respect.
Then you have Nikon, Nikon bodies are generally better built and have better low light and auto focus performance than the canon "counter parts" however they are more expensive.
I terms of where to start a better question is; I've got £400 what's the best camera I can get?
Let us know your budget and we'll go from there.
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Must..... resist....the..... temptation..... to...... remove hideous Nikon bias from the above post using my Superloser powers in this section.
Nnnnnrgh.
My point was that you've used Canon before. You had a 400D, unless you *want* to shoot video why not go back to one, with a couple of lenses? (50mm prime springs to mind).
Much better user interface than Nikon.
If you can stretch to it the Canon 7D is an epic unit for photos and video. I have a mate with one with a 17-55 F2.8 lens that he uses for everything - the results are VERY strong. The camera is also very well weather-sealed.
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budget will dictat which camera :wink:
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budget wise, i dont really have one, however i dont want to be spending loads and loads on it, i.e the reason im proberbly going to be buying second hand.
may look into getting a second hand 400d then as they seem good enough still.
will also have a browse around on the internet for some of the other cameras that were named in the previous posts.
any suggestions on good places to look, bar the obvious ebay and gumtree ect.
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Yeah, I don't think you're in the 7D market :grin:.
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Yeah, I don't think you're in the 7D market :grin:.
ope thats a bit higher than i was planning to spend :D
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I'd suggest that you look at all brands.
Did you actually have a Canon before?
If so, then it would make sense to go for another one because it will be a familiar interface, but if not, then try a few out.
But it actually sounds like you were looking at them before, at the time of the 400D, but didn't get one.
£400 will get you a decent second hand camera.
You pay a premium for Canon and Nikon, but there's nothing wrong with Sony, you certainly get more for your money.
For example my kit is (all secondhand):
Sony Alpha 350 DSLR - 14mpixel, with live view and pull out screen (no video but not fussed) - Cost £200
Sony 18-70mm kit lens - £40
Minolta 50mm f1.7 prime lens - £75
Tamron 28-200mm zoom - £29
Sigma EF500 DGST Flash gun - £40
Total £384
I tried a Nikon D60 and didn't like it. I like what I've got and am happy with the results.
Now get yourself to a decent shop and try some cameras out, thats the only way you'll know what you like (Canon/Nikon/Sony wise) then you can look at which model.
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If you can stretch to it the Canon 7D is an epic unit for photos and video. I have a mate with one with a 17-55 F2.8 lens that he uses for everything - the results are VERY strong. The camera is also very well weather-sealed.
Na na na not listening..... :rolleyes: :lipsrsealed:
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would rather have a nikon d3x :cool:
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ok been looking around on the CeX website, and they have some ok camerasfor pretty ceep
saw Canon EOS 350D 8M + 18-55mm for £175 which doesent seem to bad to me? your opinions?
or you see any other cameras that are better than that for relativley cheep?
cheers
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With six months warrantee that sounds good. Has it been checked/tested at all?
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With six months warrantee that sounds good. Has it been checked/tested at all?
im guessing so, when i sold a console to cex a few years ago they wouldnt give me money untill they had pluged it in and had a quick go of it to make sure it all works so im guessing they do something simelar with all electrical goods to make sure they work. and im sure if it doesent they would give me a refund (or atleast ide hope they do)
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CEX is ok, but they're a technology shop, they seem to specialise mostly in games consoles.
Try this site, it's a proper camera shop, they fully test everything properly. It's also where I've bought both my DSLRs and lens.
http://www.lcegroup.co.uk/ (http://www.lcegroup.co.uk/)
My first Sony DSLR was £150 with kit lens, so there's nothing wrong with only spending that much.
The only issue with the 350D is it's only an 8Mpixel sensor, which will be fine for most stuff, but if you want to print big, you'll want more pixels. Also the 350D is getting quite old, so the mechanical parts (shutter and mirror) will be quite worn, but you can get them serviced.
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mpbphotographic.co.uk
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CEX is ok, but they're a technology shop, they seem to specialise mostly in games consoles.
Try this site, it's a proper camera shop, they fully test everything properly. It's also where I've bought both my DSLRs and lens.
http://www.lcegroup.co.uk/ (http://www.lcegroup.co.uk/)
My first Sony DSLR was £150 with kit lens, so there's nothing wrong with only spending that much.
The only issue with the 350D is it's only an 8Mpixel sensor, which will be fine for most stuff, but if you want to print big, you'll want more pixels. Also the 350D is getting quite old, so the mechanical parts (shutter and mirror) will be quite worn, but you can get them serviced.
ah ok cool cheers for the link, was looking for a more camera based shop but couldnt find anything (or not any that told me what cameras they had in stock) will check it out.
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Mpb as T_J_G has posted above are excellent. They even appear in the forum banner every now and again recently.
Nothing wrong with the 400D era of cameras from any of the brands. Infact I still shoot all my digi stuff with my 400D which is nearly 4 years old and has taken a proper hammering!
Nick
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MPB doesn't seem to sell used DSLRs with lenses, so you'd have to price up a secondhand lens too. Although if you called them, they might do a deal on a DSLR camera body and starter lens.
Personally I've no experience of MPB because they only stock Canon and Nikon, which is no good for me.
The prices seem alright though.
Here's a 400D with kit lens: £299 http://www.lcegroup.co.uk/Used/Canon-EOS-400D-+-18-55mm-_46050.html (http://www.lcegroup.co.uk/Used/Canon-EOS-400D-+-18-55mm-_46050.html)