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Model specific boards => Golf mk6 => Topic started by: Neil gti on 17 November 2011, 20:49
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Had my front Discs scimmed on the car today at Awesome, thought it would be rude not to stick it on the rollers :smiley:
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Impressive!! :shocked:
bet it pulls like a choo choo :evil:
whats with the little drop off at 3k?
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Impressive!! :shocked:
bet it pulls like a choo choo :evil:
whats with the little drop off at 3k?
Dont know i don't really understand it :smiley:
Awesome said it was very smooth and impressive so i'll take there word for it :grin:
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Impressive torque numbers! Think I got around 350 to 360 lb/ft. Thought the power might of been slightly higher?
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Impressive torque numbers! Think I got around 350 to 360 lb/ft. Thought the power might of been slightly higher?
Kenny i thought it would be about 300bhp
On stage 1 without full Milltek and stage 2 Carbonio it was pulling 268bhp ?
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Impressive torque numbers! Think I got around 350 to 360 lb/ft. Thought the power might of been slightly higher?
Kenny i thought it would be about 300bhp
On stage 1 without full Milltek and stage 2 Carbonio it was pulling 258bhp ?
Just found the stage 1 map results
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Impressive!! :shocked:
bet it pulls like a choo choo :evil:
whats with the little drop off at 3k?
Dont know i don't really understand it :smiley:
Awesome said it was very smooth and impressive so i'll take there word for it :grin:
They probably know a little more than me also :grin:
Although Im sure the doc can shed some light on it.... seems like it was doing the same at stage 1 too
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Could it be a DSG thing :sad:
Not easy to get it right on the rollers with DSG ?
Think Docs watching i'm a celebrity get me out of heeeeree :grin:
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Could it be a DSG thing :sad:
Not easy to get it right on the rollers with DSG ?
Ahhh... could well be. Thought it looked a little like clutch slip, my car used to suffer from it alot :undecided:
Think Docs watching i'm a celebrity get me out of heeeeree :grin:
Picking up hints n tips chest hair removal no doubt :grin:
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Could it be a DSG thing :sad:
Not easy to get it right on the rollers with DSG ?
Ahhh... could well be. Thought it looked a little like clutch slip, my car used to suffer from it alot :undecided:
Think Docs watching i'm a celebrity get me out of heeeeree :grin:
Picking up hints n tips chest hair removal no doubt :grin:
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Did they adjust the Boost, Timing or Fuel to suit your car when putting stage 2 on the car? Guy played about with it on my car when on the rollers and managed to get it up to 299 bhp. Awesome also got 300bhp out of a scirocco tsi when stage 2 was released I remember reading
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Did they adjust the Boost, Timing or Fuel to suit your car when putting stage 2 on the car? Guy played about with it on my car when on the rollers and managed to get it up to 299 bhp. Awesome also got 300bhp out of a scirocco tsi when stage 2 was released I remember reading
I don't Kenny a local place put the stage 2 on about a year ago, don't know what was done adjustment wise, if any :sad:
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Maybe worth talking to Awesome or even straight to Revo themselves to see what they say. Car would ideally need to be on the rollers to see exactly what is happening. Might be worth squeezing a bit more horses out! :wink:
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Watching phantom menace with Max whilste removing some of my chest hair lol
That horrible dip / spike in the mid range is something I'm working hard to remove on these cars, can't you feel it if you load the car up at low revs in say forth? It is in the original mapping and magnified when remapped :sick:
You should have popped in I'm only 5 mins away from awesome :wink:
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Watching phantom menace with Max whilste removing some of my chest hair lol
That horrible dip / spike in the mid range is something I'm working hard to remove on these cars, can't you feel it if you load the car up at low revs in say forth? It is in the original mapping and magnified when remapped :sick:
You should have popped in I'm only 5 mins away from awesome :wink:
Not really loaded it up in 4th at low revs the DSG will just gear down to compensate for it ? not really felt it to be honest Doc.
Didn't get out of Awesome till 4.30 so hit the Traffic around Trafford centre :angry:
If i had known you was so close i would of popped in on my way, didn't have to be there till 1pm :sad:
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If you don't mind find a long road going uphill, put your car into 4th using manual selector and get revs around 1300 then floor the gas but don't do kick down and please let me know if you can hear a swooshing sound combined with a surging feeling.
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If you don't mind find a long road going uphill, put your car into 4th using manual selector and get revs around 1300 then floor the gas but don't do kick down and please let me know if you can hear a swooshing sound combined with a surging feeling.
I will try Doc but not many hills around here, may need to move to Sheffield :grin:
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If you don't mind find a long road going uphill, put your car into 4th using manual selector and get revs around 1300 then floor the gas but don't do kick down and please let me know if you can hear a swooshing sound combined with a surging feeling.
I sometimes still get the surging feeling, not very often though. Seems to be a lot wore when I use sure unleaded for some reason? Changing spark plugs this weekend if it's dry to see if it helps any, probably not!
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only ever used VPower in mine, i go out of my way to fill up :smiley:
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Power looks good there Neil - I can see why the Ring is so much fun now :smiley:
If you don't mind find a long road going uphill, put your car into 4th using manual selector and get revs around 1300 then floor the gas but don't do kick down and please let me know if you can hear a swooshing sound combined with a surging feeling.
I will try Doc but not many hills around here, may need to move to Sheffield :grin:
You can have some of our hills - up 'ill down dale as they say!!
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only ever used VPower in mine, i go out of my way to fill up :smiley:
same as me! had to coast 3 miles downhill to the shell garage in corbridge yesterday as i was on fumes! could have filled up at other places but like tesco99 or v power in mine. if it wasn't downhill for the last part i would have definitely ran out!
as for your power runs they look like 2 different dynos so they will read differently. some over read and some under read so you will only get an accurate comparison if its done on at the same place with similar temperatures etc.
i get that 'surge' thing you describe but mine happens between 2700-2900rpm then it takes off again. weird
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i get that 'surge' thing you describe but mine happens between 2700-2900rpm then it takes off again. weird
Dont worry they all do it to one degree or another, If / when I sort it you guys will know about it :wink:
I just hope we can get it sussed where others have failed :wink:
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Do you have an upgraded intercooler fitted, made night and day difference to my stage 2, To be honest I found awesome useless when I tried to order stuff from them never had in stock promised to call back but never did, I use statlers in Sheffield now, does nothing but vag and takes alot of high end porsche's etc.. Fair price great service ask for Steve,
+ the guy prolly has the fastest mkv edition 30 in the country so he knows his golfs, I had so many problems with mine with revo dogsh!te stage 1 map, he fixed everything VW couldn't after like 5 visits in less then a day
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Intercooler makes a lot of difference in the top end on stage 2. Got the Forge one in mine, was a bassa to fit, had to make a few DIY mods to fit the bumper back on :rolleyes:
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i get that 'surge' thing you describe but mine happens between 2700-2900rpm then it takes off again. weird
Dont worry they all do it to one degree or another, If / when I sort it you guys will know about it :wink:
I just hope we can get it sussed where others have failed :wink:
what causes the dip and then surge at 2700-2900 rpm? would super chips alter the map to smooth it out?
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Replace the alternator or actuator had exactly same problem but I carnt remember what part I got changed began with an A
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Do you have an upgraded intercooler fitted, made night and day difference to my stage 2, To be honest I found awesome useless when I tried to order stuff from them never had in stock promised to call back but never did, I use statlers in Sheffield now, does nothing but vag and takes alot of high end porsche's etc.. Fair price great service ask for Steve,
+ the guy prolly has the fastest mkv edition 30 in the country so he knows his golfs, I had so many problems with mine with revo dogsh!te stage 1 map, he fixed everything VW couldn't after like 5 visits in less then a day
Steve and Craig at Statllers are well worth the 160 mile return trip for me as the knowledge is excellent, they have done numerous cars for me, sometimes even after hours just to accomodate, brilliant service and sensible pricing :smiley:
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Are you sure it's not a derv? :grin:
It's got a heck of alot of torque relative to the horsepower and the torque band seems to be quite narrow. :shocked:
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i get that 'surge' thing you describe but mine happens between 2700-2900rpm then it takes off again. weird
Dont worry they all do it to one degree or another, If / when I sort it you guys will know about it :wink:
I just hope we can get it sussed where others have failed :wink:
what causes the dip and then surge at 2700-2900 rpm? would super chips alter the map to smooth it out?
VW's crappy design.... if SC have sorted this I'll know next week as I have a friendly mate who sells SC maps ;-)
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Are you sure it's not a derv? :grin:
Nah dirty dervs give a lovely smooth graph on the way up the revs to peak power - you can see from a mile of that that's a tfsi :rolleyes:
My VRS is the same btw.....
Neil if you'd like to come over I'll do some powers runs for you FOC to see what my dyno says about your momo :wink:
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Are you sure it's not a derv? :grin:
Nah dirty dervs give a lovely smooth graph on the way up the revs to peak power - you can see from a mile of that that's a tfsi :rolleyes:
My VRS is the same btw.....
Neil if you'd like to come over I'll do some powers runs for you FOC to see what my dyno says about your momo :wink:
Cheers Doc for the offer :smiley:
i am really busy the next couple of weeks at work so won't be able to get across, but i will bare it in mind :wink:
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Do you have an upgraded intercooler fitted, made night and day difference to my stage 2, To be honest I found awesome useless when I tried to order stuff from them never had in stock promised to call back but never did, I use statlers in Sheffield now, does nothing but vag and takes alot of high end porsche's etc.. Fair price great service ask for Steve,
+ the guy prolly has the fastest mkv edition 30 in the country so he knows his golfs, I had so many problems with mine with revo dogsh!te stage 1 map, he fixed everything VW couldn't after like 5 visits in less then a day
Sounds like a Forge IC next job then, :rolleyes:
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The scales on the first graph look a bit odd to me ?
350 ft-lb torque at just 2500rpm and over 250bhp at 3500rpm :shocked:
...compared with around 135 ft-lb and 150bhp at similar rpms with the Stage 1 map
or have I read it wrong :laugh:
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I have had a software update (on a week old car, go figure) doc will get it on the rollers soon and I need to drive it a little more on the road but I think it might be sorted which would be lovely.
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The scales on the first graph look a bit odd to me ?
350 ft-lb torque at just 2500rpm and over 250bhp at 3500rpm :shocked:
...compared with around 135 ft-lb and 150bhp at similar rpms with the Stage 1 map
or have I read it wrong :laugh:
Sorry chicken you've read it wrong, to be fair it's not the easiest to read but follow the 250bhp mark on the left and you'll find the Bhp is quite a bit higher :-)
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The scales on the first graph look a bit odd to me ?
350 ft-lb torque at just 2500rpm and over 250bhp at 3500rpm :shocked:
...compared with around 135 ft-lb and 150bhp at similar rpms with the Stage 1 map
or have I read it wrong :laugh:
Sorry chicken you've read it wrong, to be fair it's not the easiest to read but follow the 250bhp mark on the left and you'll find the Bhp is quite a bit higher :-)
I'm not questioning the maximum figures achieved, but if you go to 2500rpm along the x-axis, and then go up to the corresponding torque figure you get nearly 350 ft-lb on the first graph (Stage 2) but only 135 on the stage 1 graph, shown lower ?
The shape of the graphs look similar but it looks like they should be shifted to the right more on the Stage 2 one, so that everything is higher up the rev range ...
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Sorry, I got the wrong end of the stick :embarassed:
Seems a little messed up indeed :huh: