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General => General discussion => Topic started by: sharki786 on 29 September 2011, 10:58
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I remember everyone being helpful. Im just at the neighbour hood office, been ringing since morning only to be told that theres no appointments and theres no way i can just walk in & then was told to ring back in 20mins, which i did & still no appointments. Then the guy said, but you can walk in, wtf? Anyway i get here to be told i got to wait an hour because we are under staffed im like i feel sorry for you bud. Wtf has the mps done to this country? Alowing scums to enter the country to sh1t on the doorstep and make a mockery of everything, flash cash round but they dont work, are they untouchable? When my grandparents came to this country it was for work and they worked hard in factories (QUINTON HAZEL) doing long hours! They was scared of upsetting the people living next door. So at bed time they would be SOOO quiet even mice were louder (an eg) woulnt spit on floor and never pointed and they would dress smart in their suits and shine their shoes. Those were the days, now look around.
SHOCKING
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You do live in birmingham to be fair :lipsrsealed:
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Lol so true, but its happening everywhere. Soon even the posh places will get bombarded!
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Nothing has happened to the UK.
It's you.
Go sit in a darkened room for a while.
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Everything is fine where i live :cool: :grin:
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Nothing has happened to the UK.
It's you.
Go sit in a darkened room for a while.
:cry:
no trust me it has changed, people aint bothered DH
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Somalis are the ones I hate!
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I was thinking the opposite the other day when a little kid who lives locally to me stopped to say hello and fuss our dog, I thought how nice it was to see kids being so well behaved and polite :smiley:
There's baduns and gooduns and there always have been...
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Somalis are the ones I hate!
oh yeah, but atleast some work (they bloody loud thoe!! & cant drive for sh1t!). have you seen a farking romanian ever work? farking scavies!!!
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Somalis are the ones I hate!
oh yeah, but atleast some work (they bloody loud thoe!! & cant drive for sh1t!). have you seen a farking romanian ever work? farking scavies!!!
Not in our town they dont! For some unknown reason we have a good sized Somali community and none work and they are all ignorant and arrogant.
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Somalis are the ones I hate!
oh yeah, but atleast some work (they bloody loud thoe!! & cant drive for sh1t!). have you seen a farking romanian ever work? farking scavies!!!
Not in our town they dont! For some unknown reason we have a good sized Somali community and none work and they are all ignorant and arrogant.
not around mine, they ok with me
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I have no idea what a 'neighbourhood office' is. What does it do and why do you expect it to be staffed?
The UK has had a large immigrant community for hundreds of years. As you should surely know, being a second-generation immigrant from somewhere.
Many UK nationals probably appear lazy and ignorant to many immigrants.
Especially those who are unable to spell or punctuate in their own native language.
Maybe stop spouting racist nonsense. Just because your parents migrated here at some point doesn't make it OK to do so.
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Many UK nationals probably appear lazy and ignorant to many immigrants.
Being the fucking foreign immigrant that I am (I've been called that and worse in the past), I can agree that there is a large contingent of UK nationals who are lazy and don't work. One being my missus' ex who can't even bother paying £5 a week for his own daughter (who would love an extra £5 a week for mobile credit to call and text her friends being in high school now) , yet buys all the latest xbox 360 games for his step sons and himself, sends his missus to work for the max possible (17 hours a week is it?) at the local Pizza Hut so they can claim as much money as possible from the government as admitted by his own mother to us.
Point being, just because they're foreign doesn't mean they're bad or lazy. I've only ever been out of a job for a few days when moving from Kent to Oxfordshire without having a job lined up before moving :grin:
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Many UK nationals probably appear lazy and ignorant to many immigrants.
Being the fucking foreign immigrant that I am (I've been called that and worse in the past), I can agree that there is a large contingent of UK nationals who are lazy and don't work. One being my missus' ex who can't even bother paying £5 a week for his own daughter (who would love an extra £5 a week for mobile credit to call and text her friends being in high school now) , yet buys all the latest xbox 360 games for his step sons and himself, sends his missus to work for the max possible (17 hours a week is it?) at the local Pizza Hut so they can claim as much money as possible from the government as admitted by his own mother to us.
Point being, just because they're foreign doesn't mean they're bad or lazy. I've only ever been out of a job for a few days when moving from Kent to Oxfordshire without having a job lined up before moving :grin:
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I can say the same things as you mate! I have been discriminated for years for being only a 1/4 Polish and having a Polish surname. Yet the people who are happy to slate/discriminate, are the ones who are first in the line for the handouts.
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What happened to the UK?
Simple answer really.
The British.
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People happened to the UK, specifically lazy ones. I dont care what someones accent is or their skin colour. If they dont contribute they should piss off, if they take the piss they should piss off.
A woman in the shop the other day, clearly lives here, had an english accent etc but was from jamaica originally (flag on the kids buggy) got her VAT off her stuff via her passport. Thanks love, dont worry about contributing :rolleyes:
Stuff like that gives other hard working people a bad name, unfotunatly you wont see many foreign people working, they are working after all! You do see the lazy ones with 6 kids, queueing at the post office for their dole money though. Doesnt mean they are all like that, often the majority behind that person are born here, white and lazy as sh!t.
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I defo agree with the above, people are far to quick to have a go at immigrants but should take a look at their fellow countrymen first :rolleyes:
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I was in a bit of a dive area the other having my van MOT'd... while I was waiting I took a stroll to the local shop to get a drink
whilst on the way I heard someone referring to their child in this manner...
"oi.. Mazdaa, comeeeere"
THAT is what is wrong with this fcuking country.
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I was in a bit of a dive area the other having my van MOT'd... while I was waiting I took a stroll to the local shop to get a drink
whilst on the way I heard someone referring to their child in this manner...
"oi.. Mazdaa, comeeeere"
THAT is what is wrong with this fcuking country.
:grin: :grin: :grin:
I have a mazda .... and even i dont call it that :laugh:
... the flip side : at least some of these people have got off their ar$e and come to this country to try find a better life for themselves. Imagine what the ones sat at home are like :lipsrsealed:
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politicians have ruined this country, by making mistake after mistake, and even when they try to put it right, they f**k that up as well, its a downward spiral, to which, the people, the tax payers, even the dole dwelling, knuckle dragging scum are getting sick of
its true there are many people out of work, but whats the point in working when you can have a better life living on the dole, paid for by mugs, the taxpayer like most of us here who go out to work and pay a quarter of our monthly income back to the government for them to only give it to europe to bail out other countries, whos going to bail us out?
the number of immegrants coming into the country is no longer needed, theres too many people and not enough jobs, its distroying the economy, to which, not that many foreigners work anyway, i would give a statistic but im not going to :rolleyes:
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any stat that claims to tell you the number of immigrants that work or dont work is bollox
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TV happened, then it got poluted by the Americans :wink:. Who needs community and respect when you an watch it all on TV and never leave the house :cry:.
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but whats the point in working when you can have a better life living on the dole
not always true, my gfs brother is on the dole and has a house provided by the council, hes been in the house for a month now, all the walls in the house have holes in them, no carpets in the house at all, non of the doors fit so its freesing non of the hosue is decorated, he complained at the start of the month and was told someone will come out in 5 weeks to survay it then they will get contractors in to sort the house out. he gets 200 quid every two weeks to live off. 150 of it goes on food, the other 50 goes on electricity heating ect ect ect.
so at the moment hes heating a house and constantly having to wear a coat (except days like this) because its so cold as non of the doors fit properly and there is no carpets and holes in the walls ect.
personally i know ide rather work 40 hours a week and earn alot more than that and be able to have money to do things ( he hasent had a night out or even a day out or gone to the cinema or anything for about 9 months because he cant afford it)
i know some people take the p*ss by getting a couple of grand a week for having 47 babies and claiming every kind of benafit there is. but most dont.
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I was thinking the opposite the other day when a little kid who lives locally to me stopped to say hello and fuss our dog, I thought how nice it was to see kids being so well behaved and polite :smiley:
There's baduns and gooduns and there always have been...
Same happened to me,except when he had finished fussing I noticed he had pinched the collar....
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Wow! at some of the nonsense in this thread.
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It's really interesting to see that every time someone mentiones "what's wrong with the uk" the usual answer is "foreigners"...that's just shows the level of intelligence of people passing their opinion... :sick:
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Cant blame people who come here if we dont set a good example for them.
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You do live in birmingham to be fair :lipsrsealed:
And thats supposed to mean what, exactly? im a Brummie.. and bloody proud of it! im also a worker.. always have been. theres good and bad in every race creed and colour, but the biggest damage done to this Green and Pleasant is HAND-OUTS,
if you dont WANT to work and dont WANT to contribute to society, then fekk off !simples! those that think its a god given right to fleece those that DO work and DO contribute ought to be means tested at the very least.
At least I have one thing these lazy arsed fekkers dont and will never have.Pride that ive stood on my own two feet and not had to rely on hand outs for what i have.
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It could be worse , it has a better quality of life than most places in the world.
You have a welfare state that may not be perfect but does it's best which is still better than most countries
You have the NHS which is envied around the world
Politicians are for the most part honest
Same goes for the police
The weather and local geologic conditions don't try to kill you.
basically apart from pockets of run down deprived areas with run down deprived people it's alright.
once the recession is over I'd rather be there than here in Australia and day of the week.
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The UK is in trouble, but take a look at the rest of the world. Its is a corporation these days, a business. The only thing thats important is money and greed which fuels corruption.
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It could be worse , it has a better quality of life than most places in the world.
You have a welfare state that may not be perfect but does it's best which is still better than most countries
You have the NHS which is envied around the world
Politicians are for the most part honest
Same goes for the police
The weather and local geologic conditions don't try to kill you.
basically apart from pockets of run down deprived areas with run down deprived people it's alright.
once the recession is over I'd rather be there than here in Australia and day of the week.
http://www.metro.co.uk/news/876943-rip-off-britain-is-worst-place-to-live-in-europe
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The NHS isn't free. Its paid for out of taxation like every other service. And if you compare it to other health services you'll find that its actually not very good.
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The NHS isn't free. Its paid for out of taxation like every other service. And if you compare it to other health services you'll find that its actually not very good.
ok , be pedantic . :rolleyes:
how many countries can you walk into a hospital ill or injured , be treated and walk out again without getting your wallet out ? It costs $90 just to visit a GP for 10 minutes here and you still have to pay a 1.5% a year medicare tax on top of that on your gross wage.
That uswitch poll is nonsense. they only compared 10 out of 27 eu countries.
If the rest of europe is so great why don't all the whinging tw4ts go and live there , there's nothing to stop them.
as shown in this thread the british are natural moaners and never happy with thier lot.
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You do live in birmingham to be fair :lipsrsealed:
And thats supposed to mean what, exactly? im a Brummie.. and bloody proud of it! im also a worker.. always have been. theres good and bad in every race creed and colour, but the biggest damage done to this Green and Pleasant is HAND-OUTS,
if you dont WANT to work and dont WANT to contribute to society, then fekk off !simples! those that think its a god given right to fleece those that DO work and DO contribute ought to be means tested at the very least.
At least I have one thing these lazy arsed fekkers dont and will never have.Pride that ive stood on my own two feet and not had to rely on hand outs for what i have.
Chill winston. Was being facetious, hence the smilie. OP took it as i meant :wink:
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In my line of work, I think I'd be the first to hire foreign workers.
The attitude of some of the British public is a disgrace.
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In my line of work, I think I'd be the first to hire foreign workers.
The attitude of some of the British public is a disgrace.
This.
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The minority always think theyre too good to stack shelves/make tea/ scrub the toilets.
I used to work with a polish guy and he would do 2x the work that 95% of my staff would.
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Some of the polish are exceptionally hard workers, the drivers and drivers mates we had at TNT/Ceva, they'd have the same number of drops as other guys and be first back at base. Probably broke the speed limit and drove like nutters though :grin:
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Some of the polish are exceptionally hard workers, the drivers and drivers mates we had at TNT/Ceva, they'd have the same number of drops as other guys and be first back at base. Probably broke the speed limit and drove like nutters though :grin:
Worked with a few polish when i was at Tesco. Brilliant guys, best workers in there by miles! Friendly, helpful and love this country.
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Indeed i find a lot of English people expect the world to be give to them & they deserve a living. I think you have to earn a living, some people just don't know how good they have it.
I wouldn't think twice about employing someone from another country hopefully they wouldn't whinge & moan as much as the people i work with lol
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Some of the polish are exceptionally hard workers, the drivers and drivers mates we had at TNT/Ceva, they'd have the same number of drops as other guys and be first back at base. Probably broke the speed limit and drove like nutters though :grin:
Worked with a few polish when i was at Tesco. Brilliant guys, best workers in there by miles! Friendly, helpful and love this country.
Compare countries 7 & 10 ;)
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A survey using other countries currency converted to £ to look more shocking.
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A survey using other countries currency converted to £ to look more shocking.
Not really that simple, £1=4.60 Polish Zloty so you would imagine that things will be cheaper but they're not and the wages are shocking, my mum for example takes home 1300 Polish Zlotych, her bills are about 1000 a month and a weekly food shopping is easily 500 so you do the maths. She has to change her boiler this year which will cost 16000 Polish Zlotych. That's you paying about £3500 for a boiler but having annual income of £4000. By sending £200 back to Poland some people can provide their family with a much needed second income and that's why I do it...
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A survey using other countries currency converted to £ to look more shocking.
Not really that simple, £1=4.60 Polish Zloty so you would imagine that things will be cheaper but they're not and the wages are shocking, my mum for example takes home 1300 Polish Zlotych, her bills are about 1000 a month and a weekly food shopping is easily 500 so you do the maths. She has to change her boiler this year which will cost 16000 Polish Zlotych. That's you paying about £3500 for a boiler but having annual income of £4000. By sending £200 back to Poland some people can provide their family with a much needed second income and that's why I do it...
Good on you then mate! I never understand why people get annoyed you guys do this either, you paid tax on it so you can do what you want!
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I'd quite like the 39 days holiday the Spanish get !
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A survey using other countries currency converted to £ to look more shocking.
Not really that simple, £1=4.60 Polish Zloty so you would imagine that things will be cheaper but they're not and the wages are shocking, my mum for example takes home 1300 Polish Zlotych, her bills are about 1000 a month and a weekly food shopping is easily 500 so you do the maths. She has to change her boiler this year which will cost 16000 Polish Zlotych. That's you paying about £3500 for a boiler but having annual income of £4000. By sending £200 back to Poland some people can provide their family with a much needed second income and that's why I do it...
Good on you then mate! I never understand why people get annoyed you guys do this either, you paid tax on it so you can do what you want!
Funny you say that, had a conversation with a bloke and he was saying why am I not spending the money in UK if I'm here and that I should support british businesses, so I asked him why the f*ck is he driving a German car if he's soooooo supportive of british economy, he had no answer...
Back to the topic though, in my opinion there is a lot to blame on the foreign nationals living off benefits etc but to be honest with you the fault of it is with goverment, I never asked for a handout and I never will, it's too embarrasing and it drives me nuts as well that there are people out thier who are milking the system paid for by me and you alike, it's just a shame that none of the political parties seem to have an answer to that problem and they the ones who can make or break this culture...
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looking at those polish stats....
cheap petrol, more sunshine, more holidays, and cheaper booze!! whats not to ike :cool:
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looking at those polish stats....
cheap petrol, more sunshine, more holidays, and cheaper booze!! whats not to ike :cool:
The annual income :grin:
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the problem isnt with foreigners that want to come here to work and do the jobs that the british dont want to do, like sweep up at a building site, clean toilets, make tea, etc, we all know the polish are very hard workers, as someone mentioned above, the money there is shocking, so for them to come over here, work around the clock, and send every bit of money they have home is surely good for the global economy in some way as that is keeping poland going as well? they certainly wont end up like greece
and thats using the polish as a positive example...
now for a negative one?...
the somalians, dirty people, theyve overtaken an area in bham, its dirty, it stinks, theres rubbish everywhere, and generally, most of them arent interested in working
the point being, you cant tar all with the same brush, theres bad eggs in every box, but alot of foreigners do still come over here with no intention of working at all, but just to sponge off the state, so why do we allow these people in?...
human rights... a biased agenda against the uk
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human rights... a biased agenda against the uk
Maybe it evens out the amount of wars we get involved in for oil :grin:
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looking at those polish stats....
cheap petrol, more sunshine, more holidays, and cheaper booze!! whats not to ike :cool:
The annual income :grin:
very true... but i guess if everyone is on a crap wage, it makes you feel a little better :grin:
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Everyone seems to have someone else to put the blame on. The problems lie with everybody. You, me and your mothers uncle. Blissful iggnorance is at the top of the list for most in this country and it is that has destroyed the economy, democracy, the justice system and everything else that goes with it. Nothing to do with people on the dole, or immigrants etc etc, they are byproducts of same problem. Wealth is centralised, jobs are diminishing. Its all set up to fail no matter what we do!! The sooner the better I say as this culture is backwards and self destructive.
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You do live in birmingham to be fair :lipsrsealed:
And thats supposed to mean what, exactly? im a Brummie.. and bloody proud of it! im also a worker.. always have been. theres good and bad in every race creed and colour, but the biggest damage done to this Green and Pleasant is HAND-OUTS,
if you dont WANT to work and dont WANT to contribute to society, then fekk off !simples! those that think its a god given right to fleece those that DO work and DO contribute ought to be means tested at the very least.
At least I have one thing these lazy arsed fekkers dont and will never have.Pride that ive stood on my own two feet and not had to rely on hand outs for what i have.
Chill winston. Was being facetious, hence the smilie. OP took it as i meant :wink:
Im assuming thats the quote from Lock Stock and not any form of 'johnny foriegner ' slant as per what seems to be the underlying tone of this thread.. Im chilled, just wondered what you meant by the quip about living in Birmingham? nothing more nothing less.. its no worse and in fact a lot better than a fair few places throughout the UK. :cool:
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Nah... It's worse. :grin:
There's a lot of hate in this thread and I don't really see it going anywhere.
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Nah... It's worse. :grin:
There's a lot of hate in this thread and I don't really see it going anywhere.
I agree. I need a poo
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Some of this thread is funny... Foreign workers are important. I know a lot of polls exceptionally skilled that will go out and work for £6/hr in the building trade from plastering onwards, where a lot off guys will refuse he job unless it pays £x.xx/hr, ontop I would say the polls produce a better grade of work at a better speed :lipsrsealed:
It's like a "friend", I asked him to borrow a tranny and diamond drill to cut a dry core for the installation off an extractor fan, he quoted me regardless off the help I provided him in the past. Plus he said he wouldn't do a job even if its 5min away and took 20min max unless it payed at least £150... Now here's the problem he's expecting to much and wonders why he is not making any money on the side! When I could ask a poll and he would do it for far cheaper and not worry about the minimum earning out the job or he may do it for free and expect a favor in return or in exchange off some friendly beers.
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Some of this thread is funny... Foreign workers are important. I know a lot of polls exceptionally skilled that will go out and work for £6/hr in the building trade from plastering onwards, where a lot off guys will refuse he job unless it pays £x.xx/hr, ontop I would say the polls produce a better grade of work at a better speed :lipsrsealed:
It's like a "friend", I asked him to borrow a tranny and diamond drill to cut a dry core for the installation off an extractor fan, he quoted me regardless off the help I provided him in the past. Plus he said he wouldn't do a job even if its 5min away and took 20min max unless it payed at least £150... Now here's the problem he's expecting to much and wonders why he is not making any money on the side! When I could ask a poll and he would do it for far cheaper and not worry about the minimum earning out the job or he may do it for free and expect a favor in return or in exchange off some friendly beers.
+1, too many greedy, lazy, scheming and sponging f**k*rs about.. too many of them involved in my life and funny that none of them should be foreign.. it`s the way the country has gone due to people who live in it and the ways its run.. AND whats PC?
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I quite like the UK :sad: Any time I've been over it's seemed like a pretty great place to live.
And yes I've been to Birmingham :lipsrsealed: :grin:
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I quite like the UK :sad: Any time I've been over it's seemed like a pretty great place to live.
Thats cos it is. :smiley: what people either don't know cos they've never been anywhere else or just have forgotten it that all the 1st world countries have thier problems.
Take here in Oz , the utopian land of make believe for alot of brits, there is what is seen to be a huge immigration "issue" ( if the immigrant is brown :rolleyes:). They even had thier own race riots in Sydney a few years back.
Gun crime is worse than the uk due to Motorcycle gangs and organised crime.
Corruption in the police is common enought to make the news by starting with " another top policeman has been found ..."
poverty and illness in the aboriginal culture (still half a million strong despite the white mans efforts) is a huge and mostly ignored problem in the northern regions.
Racism is there at an almost constant if low level. Even the greek and italian communities call themselves Wogs.
few places in the world have a higher standard of living than europe as a whole. In the USA the wages are low and paid annual leave isn't a given even in well paid jobs. We have a friend who works there as an accountant who gets 8 days a year and considers herself lucky!
France , sweden , denmark and poland all have higher suicide rates than the uk , so the apparent better standard of living doesn't seem to be doing them much good.
I think most people around the world would be incredibly happy if thier country had the 10th highest standard of living in a region with a very high standard to start with.
The Uk is just having a hard time at the moment so people are focusing on the negative elements.
I was the same till i jumped the fence and found out the grass isn't greener at all, it is however full of things that want to bite you to death.
I am looking forward to coming home in a couple of years. :smiley:
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Somalis are the ones I hate!
oh yeah, but atleast some work (they bloody loud thoe!! & cant drive for sh1t!). have you seen a farking romanian ever work? farking scavies!!!
Mate are you for real???? A lot of people could take this as being racist. Yes I agree the mps have not helped much but you bending our ears about something which you can't change isn't going to make an iota of difference
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Somalis are the ones I hate!
oh yeah, but atleast some work (they bloody loud thoe!! & cant drive for sh1t!). have you seen a farking romanian ever work? farking scavies!!!
Mate are you for real???? A lot of people could take this as being racist. Yes I agree the mps have not helped much but you bending our ears about something which you can't change isn't going to make an iota of difference
not a racist :grin: i just was f*cked over by one, who damaged my property and then had the nerve to offer £20 for the damages. i think you would feel the same. but most of them well i aint seen a decent romanian, who is kind and well mannered. so no not a racist. :kiss:
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I know several and never had problems. You can't base ones actions on all of them that isn't fair or justified. I understand where you are coming from and yes I agree it's a joke!!! But you seriously need to think about what you write you can't just put stuff like that on here.
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from this thread, its clear to see (which we all knew anyway as we all watch the news and rear the papers) that theres problems all over the world on the subject of race and immigration, but there is also racism all over the world as well, but it seems that when the english have an issue, it is highlighted more that we seem to be more racist, which doesnt seem fair when theres other cultures more racist towards the english, but we just ignore it, there isnt one thing you could call me that i would take offence to, lol, some cultures are more tempermental than others guess...
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Its being milked because 'everyone else' is doing it.
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the biggest racist's are the leftie anti-'racist's' who despise all things English/British and who have been succsesful in beating down all notions of English identity for so long that they truly believe their own sh!t views and are terrified at the slow but sure rise in English pride.
we'd all get along so much better if the liberal left had allowed a grown up debate about multi-culturism/mass immigration/sub servantcy to the fascist state of the E.U but cos its been forced on us over 50 years of lies and deception we're in the fcuk'ed up state that we find ourselve's in now.
(cue some lilly livered leftie twit to get all choppysie now!!) :kiss:
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the biggest racist's are the leftie anti-'racist's' who despise all things English/British and who have been succsesful in beating down all notions of English identity for so long that they truly believe their own sh!t views and are terrified at the slow but sure rise in English pride.
we'd all get along so much better if the liberal left had allowed a grown up debate about multi-culturism/mass immigration/sub servantcy to the fascist state of the E.U but cos its been forced on us over 50 years of lies and deception we're in the fcuk'ed up state that we find ourselve's in now.
(cue some lilly livered leftie twit to get all choppysie now!!) :kiss:
so just to clarify.... what are you actually saying ??
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I like turtles
is what I'm saying
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the biggest racist's are the leftie anti-'racist's' who despise all things English/British and who have been succsesful in beating down all notions of English identity for so long that they truly believe their own sh!t views and are terrified at the slow but sure rise in English pride.
we'd all get along so much better if the liberal left had allowed a grown up debate about multi-culturism/mass immigration/sub servantcy to the fascist state of the E.U but cos its been forced on us over 50 years of lies and deception we're in the fcuk'ed up state that we find ourselve's in now.
(cue some lilly livered leftie twit to get all choppysie now!!) :kiss:
so just to clarify.... what are you actually saying ??
seriously?