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Title: how many mk5-6 owners wished...
Post by: dragongreengolfgti on 21 August 2011, 20:32
They owned a really nice mk1-2-3 ? only out of interest. Do you own a mk5-6 because you can simply afford it and you think there the best model? or have you put yourselves into debt buying one and now you wish you had a really nice sorted mk1,2 or even 3 for the fraction of the price?
Title: Re: how many mk5-6 owners wished...
Post by: leigh_harty on 21 August 2011, 20:35
If you had the money to buy a mk6 gti what would you do?
Title: Re: how many mk5-6 owners wished...
Post by: sharki786 on 21 August 2011, 20:36
CANOWORMIES :lipsrsealed:
Title: Re: how many mk5-6 owners wished...
Post by: sharki786 on 21 August 2011, 20:37
If you had the money to buy a mk6 gti what would you do?

mk1 or mk2 and do a crazy ass mod? :evil:
Title: Re: how many mk5-6 owners wished...
Post by: dragongreengolfgti on 21 August 2011, 20:52
If you had the money to buy a mk6 gti what would you do?

wouldn't buy a mk6 golf thats for sure i'd happily have the new rocco though  :smiley: over that i'd have an old rs4-6! im a person who loves older cars and also im massive ferrari fan so i'd probably have a nice 355 on the drive  :smiley: other cars theres alot more for the money evo 8-9 spend 4k tuning will see any golf off. For the 30k+ price tag new golfs are going for i wouldn't want rusty arches in 3 years and going to the garage because my rn-510 or watever stupid system they have breaks is not good. i had a mk5 gt tdi 170 for 1 month which i sold to my sister which she still has brilliant car but not for me i bought a mk3 gti after and i find it more of a drivers car albeit i got myself into debt for it but thought it was a good thing at the time. i just find vw unreliable from my experience so im thinking of moving on  :sad:
Title: Re: how many mk5-6 owners wished...
Post by: dragongreengolfgti on 21 August 2011, 20:53
If you had the money to buy a mk6 gti what would you do?

mk1 or mk2 and do a crazy ass mod? :evil:

definately i will get a mk2 project next year i reckon im just not feeling the love for vw at the mo  :sad:
Title: Re: how many mk5-6 owners wished...
Post by: tech1889 on 21 August 2011, 20:55
i have a3 and a mk2  :drool: :drool:
Title: Re: how many mk5-6 owners wished...
Post by: Wayne on 21 August 2011, 21:23
If you had the money to buy a mk6 gti what would you do?

Not buy a mk6 thats for sure
Title: Re: how many mk5-6 owners wished...
Post by: dragongreengolfgti on 21 August 2011, 21:27
If you had the money to buy a mk6 gti what would you do?

Not buy a mk6 thats for sure

lol sounds like thats a +2 then
Title: Re: how many mk5-6 owners wished...
Post by: Jimp on 21 August 2011, 21:49
I bought a mk5 because I like mk5s.
I also bought a mk3 because I like mk3s.
I don't see the problem here  :huh:
Title: Re: how many mk5-6 owners wished...
Post by: dragongreengolfgti on 21 August 2011, 21:53
theres no problem here im just interested to know if infact mk5-6 owners are infact happy why they went for it and reasons really i am a bit weird lol  :nerd:
Title: Re: how many mk5-6 owners wished...
Post by: Chris-White on 21 August 2011, 23:50
If you had the money to buy a mk6 gti what would you do?

I'd buy an escort cosworth.

or a skyline r32.
Title: Re: how many mk5-6 owners wished...
Post by: Ant1981 on 21 August 2011, 23:54
If you had the money to buy a mk6 gti what would you do?

.....older cars and also im massive ferrari fan so i'd probably have a nice 355 on the drive 

Mr2 355 reps has killed the 355.
Title: Re: how many mk5-6 owners wished...
Post by: travisreeve on 22 August 2011, 00:05
Im stickin with what i have THE BEST OF BOTH WORLDS

Clean mk1 golf with a 1.8 20vt in it with out all the sh!tty
censors and wiring  :grin:... Its old school and reliable
Title: Re: how many mk5-6 owners wished...
Post by: Jack3559 on 22 August 2011, 01:12
These.

(http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z60/MK5CNY/Cars/3944458041_ed5f1ef70e_b-1.jpg)
Title: Re: how many mk5-6 owners wished...
Post by: The Mighty Elvi on 22 August 2011, 08:27
Go and link this post in the MK6 section. Then stand well back.

Title: Re: how many mk5-6 owners wished...
Post by: F17BAD on 22 August 2011, 08:42
If you had the money to buy a mk6 gti what would you do?

I'd buy an escort cosworth.
 

Now we are talking.. or a 3 door cossie  :cool:
Title: Re: how many mk5-6 owners wished...
Post by: majormajor on 22 August 2011, 08:56
Back in 1999, I had the great pleasure of being involved in launching the Mk 4 Golf to the UK VW Dealer Network.

We started at Donnington, where we had hired a bunch of proffessional racing drivers to take the dealer delegates around the track (in left-hooker cars) to demonstrate just how much better the Mk 4 was than the Mk 3.

I was then given one of the first RHD cars (a 1.6) to take round to every dealer in the North of England, so they could have a closer look.

Now, at the time, my regular company car was a Mk 3 VR6. The idea was that I would use the Mk 4 1.6 during the day, and then park it up and use the Mk 3 VR6 in the evening.

Gotta tell you that the Mk 4, even in 1.6 form, was SO much more fun to drive than the Mk 3, that the VR6 never turned a wheel for the next month until the Mk 4 went back to VAG.

Furthermore, back in the 70's, I worked as a VW salesman, and sold and drove 100's of earlier model Golfs, and went to Wolfsburg in 1974 to see them building the very first Mk 1's.
I also had one of the very first (LHD) Mk 1 GTi's imported into the UK as a demonstrator.

So THAT is why my car of choice is now a Mk 4. I could easily afford a Mk 5 or even a Mk 6, but the quality has never equalled the Mk 4. Even VW acknowledge that they lowered the quality in 2004. The cars got better and better up to the Mk 4, and got no better since.....(IMHO)...

But at the end of the day, each to his own :grin:

Title: Re: how many mk5-6 owners wished...
Post by: markymark on 22 August 2011, 09:00
When I bought my first Mk5 GTI I had a low mileage MK2 16v Oak Green in the garage too. As the MK2 stayed in the garage for most of the time I sold the MK2 due to lack of use. I really wish I hadnt sold it but as when I see them I still crave another but certainly wouldnt get rid of my MK5 in favour of one now.
Awesome cars the MK2 but now im a little older I need my creature comforts!!
Title: Re: how many mk5-6 owners wished...
Post by: tshirt2k on 22 August 2011, 09:03
Mk4 = quality??  :shocked:

Would never get one. I worked on a T plater that look mint, but every other bolt i tried to undo, snapped. I dreaded every time i had to undo something even. The snapped captive nut on the subframe was a headache.
Title: Re: how many mk5-6 owners wished...
Post by: majormajor on 22 August 2011, 09:15
Mk4 = quality??  :shocked:

Would never get one. I worked on a T plater that look mint, but every other bolt i tried to undo, snapped. I dreaded every time i had to undo something even. The snapped captive nut on the subframe was a headache.

As I said, mate - each to his own.

I'm no mechanic. I buy cars based on their drivability. (Recently gave a Mk 6 owning friend (his first Golf) a drive in mine. He was not a happy bunny when he found mine better than his....)

I have a very good technician who looks after my car (and my T5 van). His main complaint is that he rarely sees it, and therefore makes no money from it, because nothing needs doing to it! :grin:
Title: Re: how many mk5-6 owners wished...
Post by: SoundillusioN on 22 August 2011, 10:25
If I had MK6 money in my back pocket now that had to be spent on a car, I'd spend it on my MK1 and buy a T4 camper with the change...... Daily is provided by work.
Title: Re: how many mk5-6 owners wished...
Post by: Rhyso on 22 August 2011, 13:28
Mk4 = quality??  :shocked:

Would never get one. I worked on a T plater that look mint, but every other bolt i tried to undo, snapped. I dreaded every time i had to undo something even. The snapped captive nut on the subframe was a headache.

As I said, mate - each to his own.

I'm no mechanic. I buy cars based on their drivability. (Recently gave a Mk 6 owning friend (his first Golf) a drive in mine. He was not a happy bunny when he found mine better than his....)

I have a very good technician who looks after my car (and my T5 van). His main complaint is that he rarely sees it, and therefore makes no money from it, because nothing needs doing to it! :grin:

What have you done to your MK4 then to turn it into a driving machine as my MK4 was a million light years behind the Audi I currently drive and that was even after I lowered it and fitted a RARB

Wouldn't buy a Golf even if I had the money.  Audi FTW  :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: how many mk5-6 owners wished...
Post by: vaughn on 22 August 2011, 13:39
to answer the op`s question,

i own a mk5 ed30 and if i had the choice between a really nice mk1-2 or the ed30 it would be the ed30 all day long,

i have owned mk1`s, mk2`s, mk4 and the ed30 is the best i`ve owned

i don`t own it just because i can simply afford it, for me it`s one of the most complete hatchbacks you can own, does everything it say`s it does and it`s what i wanted

have i put myself into debt, i didn`t pay cash for it , but i didn`t pay cash for my house, so yes but a managable debt

would i not pay a monthly outgoing for my ed30 and "own" a mk1-2
no, reliability and driveability is the main reason i own a newer car, my missus and son use the car most days so she likes something reliable to drive and something that is safe or safer than say a mk1-2

that is my own situation and everyones situation is different, but i would think a majority of mk5-6 owners wouldn`t swap a monthly outgoing for a mk1-2 imho



Title: Re: how many mk5-6 owners wished...
Post by: majormajor on 22 August 2011, 14:19
[What have you done to your MK4 then to turn it into a driving machine as my MK4 was a million light years behind the Audi I currently drive and that was even after I lowered it and fitted a RARB

Wouldn't buy a Golf even if I had the money.  Audi FTW  :laugh: :laugh:

It says you are a Mod, so with respect, my friend,  I would ask you to read posts properly.

I said "each one to his own"...

What have I done to make my car drivable (in MY opinion).....?
In three words - NOT become YOU..... :sad:
Title: Re: how many mk5-6 owners wished...
Post by: Jack3559 on 22 August 2011, 14:33
Trust me. I'm a car salesman.
Title: Re: how many mk5-6 owners wished...
Post by: Rhyso on 22 August 2011, 14:41
[What have you done to your MK4 then to turn it into a driving machine as my MK4 was a million light years behind the Audi I currently drive and that was even after I lowered it and fitted a RARB

Wouldn't buy a Golf even if I had the money.  Audi FTW  :laugh: :laugh:

It says you are a Mod, so with respect, my friend,  I would ask you to read posts properly.

I said "each one to his own"...

What have I done to make my car drivable (in MY opinion).....?
In three words - NOT become YOU..... :sad:

I did read your post properly and hence my question about what have you done to it......... :smiley:  I'm assuming its still standard reading your reply.

A MK4 is very good in terms of build quality but as a driving tool, it falls far short of what it should have been.

Title: Re: how many mk5-6 owners wished...
Post by: tech1889 on 22 August 2011, 15:10
my mk4 was a hoot in a straight line but understeered terrible  :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: how many mk5-6 owners wished...
Post by: majormajor on 22 August 2011, 18:01
A MK4 is very good in terms of build quality but as a driving tool, it falls far short of what it should have been.



For what it is worth (very little, here, I guess), I too am a Mod on a site (nothing to do with automobiles).

It is, however, a very subjective subject matter - every member will have their own opinions.

What we DON'T do, as Mods, is slag every opinion that is different to our own - because that is just like kids in a playground.

Everyone is entitled to their opinions. You are a Mod - not a bloody car design guru.

So rest assured I'll keep my gob shut in future.

Meanwhile, I would suggest you rename this site "A Golf GTI site run by condescending Audi drivers"...........
Title: Re: how many mk5-6 owners wished...
Post by: leigh_harty on 22 August 2011, 18:03
So basically anyone who had the money to pay for the mk6 gti price tag.... would go in the exact opposite dirrection? lol. To be fair so would I

I have a soft spot for the older audi S8's for some reason. Dont need to be belting fast just has to have a belting soundtrack, or if i was to be abit more focused then maybe an E46 M3
Title: Re: how many mk5-6 owners wished...
Post by: Jack3559 on 22 August 2011, 18:11
A MK4 is very good in terms of build quality but as a driving tool, it falls far short of what it should have been.



For what it is worth (very little, here, I guess), I too am a Mod on a site (nothing to do with automobiles).

It is, however, a very subjective subject matter - every member will have their own opinions.

What we DON'T do, as Mods, is slag every opinion that is different to our own - because that is just like kids in a playground.

Everyone is entitled to their opinions. You are a Mod - not a bloody car design guru.

So rest assured I'll keep my gob shut in future.

Meanwhile, I would suggest you rename this site "A Golf GTI site run by smart-arsed Audi drivers"...........

 :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

"You must listen to my opinion only because yours in wrong!"
Title: Re: how many mk5-6 owners wished...
Post by: dom on 22 August 2011, 19:04
A MK4 is very good in terms of build quality but as a driving tool, it falls far short of what it should have been.



For what it is worth (very little, here, I guess), I too am a Mod on a site (nothing to do with automobiles).

It is, however, a very subjective subject matter - every member will have their own opinions.

What we DON'T do, as Mods, is slag every opinion that is different to our own - because that is just like kids in a playground.

Everyone is entitled to their opinions. You are a Mod - not a bloody car design guru.

So rest assured I'll keep my gob shut in future.

Meanwhile, I would suggest you rename this site "A Golf GTI site run by condescending Audi drivers"...........

Get rid of 'condescending' and I think you hit the nail on the head there mate....seems to be going that way :lipsrsealed: :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: how many mk5-6 owners wished...
Post by: Wayne on 22 August 2011, 19:11
A MK4 is very good in terms of build quality but as a driving tool, it falls far short of what it should have been.



For what it is worth (very little, here, I guess), I too am a Mod on a site (nothing to do with automobiles).

It is, however, a very subjective subject matter - every member will have their own opinions.

What we DON'T do, as Mods, is slag every opinion that is different to our own - because that is just like kids in a playground.

Everyone is entitled to their opinions. You are a Mod - not a bloody car design guru.

So rest assured I'll keep my gob shut in future.

Meanwhile, I would suggest you rename this site "A Golf GTI site run by condescending Audi drivers"...........

I think your missing the point, Rhyso really knows his stuff and people like him make forums a worthwhile place to be.  :smiley:
Title: Re: how many mk5-6 owners wished...
Post by: tech1889 on 22 August 2011, 19:19
yes he knows a lot  :cool:
Title: Re: how many mk5-6 owners wished...
Post by: topher on 22 August 2011, 19:32
A MK4 is very good in terms of build quality but as a driving tool, it falls far short of what it should have been.



For what it is worth (very little, here, I guess), I too am a Mod on a site (nothing to do with automobiles).

It is, however, a very subjective subject matter - every member will have their own opinions.

What we DON'T do, as Mods, is slag every opinion that is different to our own - because that is just like kids in a playground.

Everyone is entitled to their opinions. You are a Mod - not a bloody car design guru.

So rest assured I'll keep my gob shut in future.

Meanwhile, I would suggest you rename this site "A Golf GTI site run by condescending Audi drivers"...........

Get rid of 'condescending' and I think you hit the nail on the head there mate....seems to be going that way :lipsrsealed: :laugh: :laugh:

i have 2 GTIs and a non-gti mk4 1.8t thanks :grin: not an audi badge in sight!

and im not condescending im just a sarky c*nt.
Title: Re: how many mk5-6 owners wished...
Post by: vaughn on 22 August 2011, 19:59
and check my shiz out 

sig says it all :wink:
Title: Re: how many mk5-6 owners wished...
Post by: dan_apps on 22 August 2011, 20:36
yes he knows a lot  :cool:

we talkin about the same Rhyso? :laugh: :kiss:
Title: Re: how many mk5-6 owners wished...
Post by: tg1 on 22 August 2011, 20:43
[What have you done to your MK4 then to turn it into a driving machine as my MK4 was a million light years behind the Audi I currently drive and that was even after I lowered it and fitted a RARB

Wouldn't buy a Golf even if I had the money.  Audi FTW  :laugh: :laugh:

It says you are a Mod, so with respect, my friend,  I would ask you to read posts properly.

I said "each one to his own"...

What have I done to make my car drivable (in MY opinion).....?
In three words - NOT become YOU..... :sad:

I did read your post properly and hence my question about what have you done to it......... :smiley:  I'm assuming its still standard reading your reply.

A MK4 is very good in terms of build quality but as a driving tool, it falls far short of what it should have been.



and a diesel audi is the epitomy of driving pleasure?

the mk4 is loads better than the mk3. and that's what majormajor meant if i read it right, as a tool for driving not a toy for driving
Title: Re: how many mk5-6 owners wished...
Post by: AudiA8Quattro on 22 August 2011, 20:45
Wow some of you lot really are getting your knickers in a twist.
Rhyso is also entitled to an opinion, even as a mod  :smiley:
Title: Re: how many mk5-6 owners wished...
Post by: Agreeable Slick on 22 August 2011, 20:58
A MK4 is very good in terms of build quality but as a driving tool, it falls far short of what it should have been.



For what it is worth (very little, here, I guess), I too am a Mod on a site (nothing to do with automobiles).

It is, however, a very subjective subject matter - every member will have their own opinions.

What we DON'T do, as Mods, is slag every opinion that is different to our own - because that is just like kids in a playground.

Everyone is entitled to their opinions. You are a Mod - not a bloody car design guru.

So rest assured I'll keep my gob shut in future.

Meanwhile, I would suggest you rename this site "A Golf GTI site run by condescending Audi drivers"...........

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_kYu2r3RVPhY/S991HwPTjXI/AAAAAAAABWs/uekDXLCQo8Q/s1600/internet-serious-business-cat.jpg)

Quite how you managed to lose all of your toys over Rhys simply asking how you made yours so good I don't know.

I would suggest you move away from the pc for a little while, go and breath in some of that fresh air and learn to accept that people other than you will have an opinion and question yours on an OPEN forum. Mod or not.

Would I own a mk6 - Yes but it would be a GTD or a bluemotion. I would buy it as a daily, because I know how they are made, and how stringent testing is on the diesel models. Would I buy it to mod it? No, it simply doesn't warrent doing in my book.
Title: Re: how many mk5-6 owners wished...
Post by: majormajor on 22 August 2011, 21:04
Wow some of you lot really are getting your knickers in a twist.
Rhyso is also entitled to an opinion, even as a mod  :smiley:

So "Wouldn't buy a Golf even if I had the money.  Audi FTW" is what I should expect on here?

From a Mod?

Suit yourselves :sad:
Title: Re: how many mk5-6 owners wished...
Post by: Jack3559 on 22 August 2011, 21:21
Mmmmm... Yes.

Hope this helps.  :smiley:
Title: Re: how many mk5-6 owners wished...
Post by: The Mighty Elvi on 22 August 2011, 21:32

Wouldn't buy a Golf even if I had the money.  Audi FTW  :laugh: :laugh


..and yet you're still here.
Title: Re: how many mk5-6 owners wished...
Post by: Agreeable Slick on 22 August 2011, 21:39
Yes.

It is not a baseless claim. He had a mk4 which also blew up on him and now has a A3, since he has used both I would think his opinion is just as valid as yours. Get over it.
Title: Re: how many mk5-6 owners wished...
Post by: AudiA8Quattro on 22 August 2011, 21:40
Wow some of you lot really are getting your knickers in a twist.
Rhyso is also entitled to an opinion, even as a mod  :smiley:

So "Wouldn't buy a Golf even if I had the money.  Audi FTW" is what I should expect on here?

From a Mod?

Suit yourselves :sad:

I think you are overreacting a little bit.
For the record, i agree with Rhyso, i also prefer Audi's.
But golfs are fine too  :smiley:
Title: Re: how many mk5-6 owners wished...
Post by: Jay on 22 August 2011, 21:43
Who wouldn't prefer an Audi over a VW? There are few VW's I'd have over an Audi.  :smiley:
Title: Re: how many mk5-6 owners wished...
Post by: vaughn on 22 August 2011, 21:57
Who wouldn't prefer an Audi over a VW? There are few VW's I'd have over an Audi.  :smiley:

depends what you can get for your cash :wink:,

in my case probably around £7k dearer for an aldi  :tongue:
Title: Re: how many mk5-6 owners wished...
Post by: Rhyso on 22 August 2011, 22:06
Wow some of you lot really are getting your knickers in a twist.
Rhyso is also entitled to an opinion, even as a mod  :smiley:

So "Wouldn't buy a Golf even if I had the money.  Audi FTW" is what I should expect on here?

From a Mod?

Suit yourselves :sad:

So I'm not entitled to an opinion because I'm a mod?  :huh:

Where exactly did i slag your opinion?  :undecided:

I've driven a number of Golfs over the years so as already pointed out to you, my opinion is based on my experience.  Sorry if that doesn't agree with your opinion but I won't lose any sleep over it  :smiley:
Title: Re: how many mk5-6 owners wished...
Post by: tech1889 on 22 August 2011, 22:08
I said exactly the same as Rhyso as i have owned mk2 mk4 and A3 and thankfully im not a scene killer.. bloody hell Rhys what you done  :grin: :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: how many mk5-6 owners wished...
Post by: Rhyso on 22 August 2011, 22:09
I said exactly the same as Rhyso as i have owned mk2 mk4 and A3 and thankfully im not a scene killer.. bloody hell Rhys what you done  :grin: :grin: :grin:

Dunno but I'm upsetting at least two people today

http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=203833.0

 :grin: :grin:

Apologies to the OP for dragging it off topic..............
Title: Re: how many mk5-6 owners wished...
Post by: dom on 22 August 2011, 23:20
Wow, getting it from all angles today Rhyso! :grin:
Title: Re: how many mk5-6 owners wished...
Post by: dragongreengolfgti on 23 August 2011, 12:27
this gets better everyday  :laugh:
Title: Re: how many mk5-6 owners wished...
Post by: lemski on 23 August 2011, 12:45
id not go for a mk6, new rocco though id have one of those. would have to be an r though. other than that mk1s and 2s for me. blew my mk3 up and i drove mk4s. dont like them.
Title: Re: how many mk5-6 owners wished...
Post by: PenguinGTI on 23 August 2011, 13:57
Just noticed this thread. Thought I'd add some Mk6 owner insight into the mix.

Let's look at the OP from two angles.

1) Buying a brand new mk6 GTI with some kit (just a random selection) such as DSG, Bluetooth, Dynaudio and Xenons.

2) Buying a classic such as a MK1 or MK2 GTI which likely will need some work to get it into desired condition (unless you buy one already done).

From the offset, yes the Mk6 is a good bit more expensive. Average spec would be just under £30k - probably £27-28k to be more precise. But the average modern buyer of a GTI is looking for a comfortable, refined, quick and dependable hatchback that can be used every day. The average buyer of a classis GTI on the other hand is generally looking for exactly that... a classic, and doesn't mind (or rather enjoys) restoring the car, enhancing the car and generally caring for the car as to the owner, the vehicle represents an iconic piece of motoring history.

So with this in mind, it is a bit unfair to directly compare the two types of car ownership.

In response to the question "If I had Mk6 money would I buy a Mk6?", the answer is in my sig. I will add however that my GTI cost just over £20k new before all the VW price increases and VAT shenanigans. Would I buy a Mk6 GTI now that the price has increased... probably yes. For me it is still a fantastic car.

There are plenty of folks on here who have the passion, skill and commitment (and also time) to work on their cars and there have been some real masterpieces as a result. A recent example is F17BAD's mk3 which IMO looks fantastic. But there has been a cost to get the car to that level - it has taken plenty of hard work and a number of years since the car was originally purchased (as well as the inevitable £££s).

As for the OP and whether I (a mk6 owner) would love a Mk1 or Mk2, then I'd have to respond that whilst I would enjoy having a classic sitting in my garage and taking it for a drive occasionally, I'm not the type of person who would enjoy having to work on it. It's nothing to do with the cars really... if a Mk6 required the same amount of work (at the moment there is the warranty to fall back on) then I wouldn't choose to work on it either.

Title: Re: how many mk5-6 owners wished...
Post by: The Doc on 26 August 2011, 07:52
As above plus:

Seems a strange question as, if you you could afford a MK6 you could afford to buy the other Mk's too?

My mk6 is used for mainly for R&D and getting to and from work which is a 72 mile round trip, if I drive captain slow I can get between 67-73 MPG, No other golf can give me what I want from my MK6 in the R&D respect apart from similar engined VAG group cars and combined with the MPG.....

Having said that I'd like a nice MK2 or MK3 with a 2.0 16v motor in it but there's no way on this earth I'd use it as a daily driver, I've been looking at them for a while but keep getting let down by their condition.

FYI I've ran 2 V8 model RS4's among other exotic motors and I've been searching for a resonably priced S/C Atom for some time now to replace my RS4, I'll say this about performance cars: until you own cars like these you'll not understand the pain in the a55 they are, RS4 wise my advice would be if you get one, get one with a warranty.

Tops and bottoms, I have a MK6 and I'm collecting a MK5 GT TDI at the weekend.....
Title: Re: how many mk5-6 owners wished...
Post by: Jimp on 26 August 2011, 09:58
On a slightly related note, I saw a new Jetta on the road the other day. If they brought the Jetta GLI over here and I had the money, it would be a very very difficult decision between a Rocco and a Jetta  :lipsrsealed:
Title: Re: how many mk5-6 owners wished...
Post by: DubFan on 26 August 2011, 10:25
Not wanting to stir the can o' worms... but

I've had 4 Golfs (Mk2s and Mk3s) and loved them, some more than others and would happily have another Mk2 for a fun car, but not a daily. In my opinion the Mk2 16v GTI was much better than the Mk3 16v GTI, a much better drivers car.
I have children and need a bigger (and safer) car, so a Golf is just not big enough for me, hence why I sold my last Golf.
I don't have the spare cash to get a brand new car, so I have a second hand Audi A4 Avant. I could have got a Passat (to stick with VW) but I preferred the look and feel of the A4 of the vintage I could afford. The A4 drives quite well for bigger car, ok it's not a GTI, but you have to compromise somewhere.

As to if I had this mythical "Mk6 money" would I have one?
No. Unless it was a Mk6 Golf Estate, but even then I would probably get a larger Passat or Audi A4 Estate that was a few years old.
Buying brand new doesn't make sense financially when you look at how much value cars lose over the first year or two.
If I had £25k ish, I would go for either a 1-2yr old Audi A4 Avant or Passat Estate. I would possibly consider diesel over petrol because of the increased fuel consumption, but as I don't do mega miles, I would probably stick with a petrol and hopefully one of the more powerful 2.0TFSI engines.

If I had that budget and had space (and reason) for 2 cars, then I would be tempted with a slightly older estate daily and then something for GTI driving fun.

At the end of the day, everyone has the right to their own opinion about the best car to own, but often your circumstances take control of your car choice, so you can't always have the car you dream of. You get the best compromise car you can. If that happens to be your perfect car, then you're very lucky.
Title: Re: how many mk5-6 owners wished...
Post by: Snoopy on 27 August 2011, 10:50
They owned a really nice mk1-2-3 ? only out of interest. Do you own a mk5-6 because you can simply afford it and you think there the best model? or have you put yourselves into debt buying one and now you wish you had a really nice sorted mk1,2 or even 3 for the fraction of the price?
I have a mk6 GTI but i also have a campaign mk1 GTI and have had it for over 20 years and also have a mk2 GTI. I have also been looking at buying a mk3 GTI for the winter months use to replace my current Daihatsu winter car whos engine just self destructed.
The Mk6 is my daily. A car i bought to run i don't have to touch so i can spend more time on my other cars, it also does everything well. Motorway trips, family trips, and is good to drive. I actually like the mk6 more than i expected too, its a better allrounder imo than any of my other ones could ever be.
The mk1 is light on its feet and darty and lots of fun at legal speeds, but no good on motorways for refinment. The Mk2 is not as much fun as the mk1 but slightly better with suspension crashes on modern potholed roads so is better refined but still unrefined by modern standards and low geared for motorway use. The mk6 is much faster than them both but very refined so less fun at legal speeds but i found it much more fun than i expected it ever be, it can still make me smile.
I currently have an Armstrong siddley 346, a Riley RMA and Riley elf in peaces restoring them so my spare time is spent on them, that was the idea of the mk6 less time on the daily, more time on the other cars, as the dailys seemed to always take up my free time in the past and the other cars just sat there in peaces untouched.

If you had the money to buy a mk6 gti what would you do?

wouldn't buy a mk6 golf thats for sure i'd happily have the new rocco though  :smiley: over that i'd have an old rs4-6! im a person who loves older cars and also im massive ferrari fan so i'd probably have a nice 355 on the drive  :smiley: other cars theres alot more for the money evo 8-9 spend 4k tuning will see any golf off. For the 30k+ price tag new golfs are going for i wouldn't want rusty arches in 3 years and going to the garage because my rn-510 or watever stupid system they have breaks is not good. i had a mk5 gt tdi 170 for 1 month which i sold to my sister which she still has brilliant car but not for me i bought a mk3 gti after and i find it more of a drivers car albeit i got myself into debt for it but thought it was a good thing at the time. i just find vw unreliable from my experience so im thinking of moving on  :sad:
I didn't pay 30K+ for it as i bought before the multiple VAT rises, price rises and demand rises so also got a good discount. It was ~£21K brand new. I had the spare cash and more so i bought it. It also will probably still be with me in 10 years+ time as i have a habbit of running GTI's for very long periods.
If you had actually owned an old Ferrari you may be suprised how fragile and costly they are to own/run. The same with the RS4 its very expensive to own/run.
EVO8-9 i could not run one daily just too compromised. I tried years ago with similar cars just did not work for me. Maybe in my teens but not now.
Rusty arches you own a mk3 you should be use to them  :tongue:  Mk5 rusting arches its 5 years not 3  :wink:. The arch liner rubbing causing the issue with the mk5s is different on the mk6. Mine has also got about 10 gallon of waxoyl on it so unlikly to suffer. :wink:
The mk3 GTI a drivers car! :grin: I was a die hard VW GTI fan until they came out and i switched to the SEAT brand for there Ibiza GTIs as i found the mk3 to me felt like a floppy, wollowing, no steering feel barge when new but each to there own.

If you had the money to buy a mk6 gti what would you do?
I'd buy an escort cosworth.
Now we are talking..
You know i always wanted one until i drove one a friend had, then i seemed to spend half my life helping him fix it. :grin:
The mk6 GTI performance check the figures compared to a standard Cosworth  :wink:
Title: Re: how many mk5-6 owners wished...
Post by: dragongreengolfgti on 27 August 2011, 14:32
great replys starting to understand peoples views and how they came about to own gti's etc i do like the whole gti range apart from mk4's but thats just me  :laugh:
Title: Re: how many mk5-6 owners wished...
Post by: snifferdog on 04 September 2011, 09:24
great replys starting to understand peoples views and how they came about to own gti's etc i do like the whole gti range apart from mk4's but thats just me  :laugh:

Im with ya mate.

The mk3's were the best I ever owned for all round ability, I never understand why they got such poor reviews, it was probably just that the expectation was so high after the mk2 (which is the best handling golf that I owned).

Would I buy a mk6 if I had the cash?! Yes. (but Id test drive the MG6 first).
Title: Re: how many mk5-6 owners wished...
Post by: Ess_Three on 04 September 2011, 16:58
It's really simple...if you are in the position to spend £30k on a car, you but what you want.
There's no right or wrong...you buy what suits you.
You will always get an 'expert' telling you that you could have bought an RS4/RS6/911 etc for the same money - and yes you could. But try running it.

I sold my 911 and went back to a Mk6 GTI because it suited me.
Would I do it again? Yes.
Is there anthing I'd rather spend my £30k on? No.

As for buying an old Golf GTI and modding the hell out of it - been there and done that.
And my well sorted Mk3 (which has probably cost me the same as a new Mk6 over the last 10 years) is a fine car...but it's noisier, less comfortable, slower, handles worse, less safe and less practical than my Mk6 which would show it a clean pair of tailights on any given road.

You buy what you want.
Simples.
Title: Re: how many mk5-6 owners wished...
Post by: bobotheclown on 05 September 2011, 20:24
the mk5 was the perfect choice for many reasons. Comfort, safety, engine, DSG gear box, practicality, and the red stripe on the front. Yes I did buy it new.

I looked at the Megane R26 (because I liked the styling of the Megane of the time) but came back to the Mk5 because it was more of an all rounder.

Would I buy a Mk1 or Mk2 GTI? If it were mint and absolutely standard then yes. I am not mechanically minded and have no inclination to mod new cars or restore/maintain classic cars.

A car to me is something that gets me from A to B with minimal fuss and is versatile when the need arises. I've just loaded up the cars with 3 Malm chest drawers from Ikea and brought them home. That is why I love the GTI.
Title: Re: how many mk5-6 owners wished...
Post by: Tazzy on 05 September 2011, 20:38
i know i own a mk4 and probably dont have a worthy opinion to this thread, lol, but i used to hate golfs, couldnt stand them, except 1, a front cover issue of a very old fast car mag, it was green with bbs alloys, slammed, with clean trims, chrome engine bay, there was no style, theme or characteristics to it, it was simply, the tidyest mk1 you will ever see  :cool:

if i could own it, i would, but as someone has just mentioned, practicality, a modern car is so much better when youve got kids and have to go to asda every saturday  :sad:

i love golfs, and i love my mk4, i love driving it, my next car, hopefully a mk5  :tongue: