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Model specific boards => Golf mk2 => Topic started by: aineriddick on 11 July 2011, 20:48
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Can anyone help, I noticed my car needed filling with water very regularly but today when I went to fill it the water disappeared straight away and was empty in about 30 seconds, I put more in and the same happened. Any ideas what the problem may be.
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Did you see from where the water is leaking from. That would be a big help.
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Strangely there doesn't seem to be any water coming out, when I fill it it just empties, I've looked underneath to see where is coming out but nothing that I can see
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I reckon the engines drinking it. Engines get thirsty too ya know
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Yeah but not litres at a time
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Well if it literally drinks it all and doesn't leak a drip out, its either h/g gone quite badly all of a sudden, meaning you'll have loads of h20 in your oil, and could hydro lock the engine soon as you'd have 8 odd litres of fluid below pistons.. if its defo in the engine its either oil cooler or h/g gone. Does it run any different to normal? Heaters still get hot? Temp guage moving? Fan coming on? Any other signs of over heating? Low power and poor starting?
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The car seems to be running fine, drive around all weekend, perfect, last week the 'low on water' light flickered a few times that why I checked it and found it low, drove a lot at weekend so thougth better check it again to find no water, didn't put too much water in realised quickly it wasn't staying so hope didn;'t do too much more damage. But yeah to answer your question - all seems to be working fine
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Well if it literally drinks it all and doesn't leak a drip out, its either h/g gone quite badly all of a sudden
It's quite likely
meaning you'll have loads of h20 in your oil,
No it won't.
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check your oil level on the dipstick as it suddenly gone up........that would point to headgasket
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checked the oil, its fine
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Think its take it to the garage time :sad:
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Check your heater matrix isn't leaking water into the car then... Why wouldn't water get in the oil with h/g failure? Surely if its gone between water + oil galleries that's a route for it to take?
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Check your heater matrix isn't leaking water into the car then... Why wouldn't water get in the oil with h/g failure? Surely if its gone between water + oil galleries that's a route for it to take?
Head gaskets don't always go between water and oil channels, most failures are between a water channel and a cylinder.
Different failures with different symptoms.
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check your oil level on the dipstick as it suddenly gone up........that would point to headgasket
It may do, but that's a sign from a different symptom. He's got coolant loss issues, not mix issues.
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Check your heater matrix isn't leaking water into the car then... Why wouldn't water get in the oil with h/g failure? Surely if its gone between water + oil galleries that's a route for it to take?
Head gaskets don't always go between water and oil channels, most failures are between a water channel and a cylinder.
Different failures with different symptoms.
Correct, and the reason for failure is the pressure between cylinder and water jacket.
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I know a h/g can go in many ways, I never said it only went one way, what I'm saying is if it goes between water + oil why wouldn't it mix or find its way from 1 to the other?
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I know a h/g can go in many ways, I never said it only went one way, what I'm saying is if it goes between water + oil why wouldn't it mix or find its way from 1 to the other?
Because it hasn't gone between water and oil.
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No, you said 'no it won't', Not 'it isn't'. that's why I asked! I know a h/g goes in a few different combinations, but if the cyl ring bit of cylinder hasn't gone (allowing water to fill the cylinder) which it hasn't because it runs fine, then that's why I presumed it was leaking into the oil via cooler. You've said no it won't as if it can't happen?
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No, I said it 'won't' (given his symptons) because you said it 'will' if it's headgasket failure. Clearly back then, you didn't know about the different ways of failures.
You've just showed that lack of knowledge again (no offence), by saying 'but if the cyl ring bit of cylinder hasn't gone (allowing water to fill the cylinder) which it hasn't because it runs fine'
Firstly, it's not running fine. Secondly, if there's a headgasket cause of coolant loss, then the 'cylinder ring' or 'piston ring' will have nothing to do with coolant and oil mixing or any type of coolant loss.
The gasket may have blown between a cylinder and coolant channel, which will let coolant pass into the cylinder. The engine will 'burn off' this coolant instantly, not allowing any to mix with oil. Symptoms are of course coolant loss and usually overheating.
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Behave mate, my own headgasket went between cyls 3+4 at christmas, of course I know there's multiple scenarios!! I wasn't questioning your knowledge, I was merely asking why? Your right, I'm not a mechanic and thought you actually had an answer for why it couldn't! Slow down son on trying to mac me off
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I meant the cylinder bit of the gasket by the way,as in leaking from coolant 'hole/ring' in gasket into cylinder 'hole/ring' bit in gasket
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I did give you an answer for why it couldn't given his symptoms.
MAC you off? Is that a serious answer? :shocked:
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Burt matrix is a sound shout if you can see no visible leaks.
Check the passenger foot well for dampness.
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Burt matrix is a sound shout if you can see no visible leaks.
No its not. If the matrix was leaking you would have a visible leak. Wet carpet passenger or driver side, that would be visible.
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Burt matrix is a sound shout if you can see no visible leaks.
No its not. If the matrix was leaking you would have a visible leak. Wet carpet passenger or driver side, that would be visible.
Only visible if you are inside the car looking for a leak......
Most would expect a coolant leak to manifest itself from the outside of the car.....
Just an idea but instead of trying to pick an argument with everyone on this new-comers thread, why not have a go at showing them how helpful we can be.....
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Well I've not seen anyone pick arguments. But I've given answers from my own experience so that I can help the OP. If someone gives wrong information or feels as though they're not.being listened to, they shouldn't see it as a cue for an argument.
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Well I've not seen anyone pick arguments. But I've given answers from my own experience so that I can help the OP. If someone gives wrong information or feels as though they're not.being listened to, they shouldn't see it as a cue for an argument.
I agree.... :rolleyes:
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dear o dear girls :wink:
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Thanks for all the comments, it turns out there is a leak where the water hose meets the radiator, so radiator was empty, it was why the water disappeared
Not so bad news in the end
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See the trouble you caused with your bad diagnosis/ fault finding!! Only kidding at least its nothing major :)
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Pressure test is the only way to find a leak quick :tongue:
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Took it to the garage, needed new radiator! Back to full health again :smiley: